• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

So, it's alright when the crew backs up stuff that VSBW users like, but when they say stuff like "this is non-canon and I don't know about 26D", then suddenly they "don't know shit"?

If the crew doesn't know anything, why are you asking them questions? Seems like double standard to me.
None should be used.
 
I also did some calcs for the first Alien Force game, Humungousaur caps out at 8-B in giant form, meaning he could actually be put in a match-up against Vilgax Attacks Alien X when the two Ben's get profiles
 
Metal Sonic vs a Ben 10 character would be a fun matchup, I wonder if I can make it work without it being a stomp for one side or the other.
 

(0:20) Vilgax claims Dagon would cause “the ruination of this universe”.
thinking-cat.gif


(iirc Dagon is only mentioned to have “conquered” dimensions so “ruination” is maybe just fancy wording or something. Still a funny line considering the Universal AP vs Range debate Ascalon has)
 

(0:20) Vilgax claims Dagon would cause “the ruination of this universe”.
thinking-cat.gif


(iirc Dagon is only mentioned to have “conquered” dimensions so “ruination” is maybe just fancy wording or something. Still a funny line considering the Universal AP vs Range debate Ascalon has)

i still wonder why doesn't ascalon has sum 2-A stuff with Dagon's power like Vilgax stated that Ben could create a universe he imagines...
 
i still wonder why doesn't ascalon has sum 2-A stuff with Dagon's power like Vilgax stated that Ben could create a universe he imagines...
Right now it’s just considered hax + range from the “wiping out all evil” thing, since I guess “create whatever universe Ben imagines” is too vague or something.
 

(1:13) Another thing I’m trying to figure out is whether this shadow of Dagon is meant to be a dragon or a squid. Given he had an actual physical heart that held most of his power (which makes no sense if he’s an energy being), my assumption was that “the Dragon” was an actual form of his kinda like how Gwen’s human and Anodite forms work.
 
One more thing for now (sorry for sometimes having these moments where I just kinda flood the thread with multiple posts):

Do we know who wrote the Ben 10 DVD scans or whether there’s anything that shows they’re 100% valid to use? The reason I ask is because there are some useful statements from them (Eon being a Chronian and Lucubra Vilgax being his most powerful form yet), but also some weirdly wrong statements too (Ultimates being listed as being from “Ultim” versions of their homeworlds, Ben 10,000 being the same guy as from OS, and Dagon being called “Ben’s old enemy”). There’s also obviously that one Ultimate Humungousaur statement I don’t like, but I’d rather have both that and the Eon/Vilgax stuff than have none of it.
 
One more thing for now (sorry for sometimes having these moments where I just kinda flood the thread with multiple posts):

Do we know who wrote the Ben 10 DVD scans or whether there’s anything that shows they’re 100% valid to use? The reason I ask is because there are some useful statements from them (Eon being a Chronian and Lucubra Vilgax being his most powerful form yet), but also some weirdly wrong statements too (Ultimates being listed as being from “Ultim” versions of their homeworlds, Ben 10,000 being the same guy as from OS, and Dagon being called “Ben’s old enemy”). There’s also obviously that one Ultimate Humungousaur statement I don’t like, but I’d rather have both that and the Eon/Vilgax stuff than have none of it.
we use them for profiles as they are official sources and it is for the tv show so, lowkey yeah some of them might be retconnected just don't use them
 

(1:13) Another thing I’m trying to figure out is whether this shadow of Dagon is meant to be a dragon or a squid. Given he had an actual physical heart that held most of his power (which makes no sense if he’s an energy being), my assumption was that “the Dragon” was an actual form of his kinda like how Gwen’s human and Anodite forms work.

After all this build up. They ruined the ending, imo.
 
One more thing for now (sorry for sometimes having these moments where I just kinda flood the thread with multiple posts):

Do we know who wrote the Ben 10 DVD scans or whether there’s anything that shows they’re 100% valid to use? The reason I ask is because there are some useful statements from them (Eon being a Chronian and Lucubra Vilgax being his most powerful form yet), but also some weirdly wrong statements too (Ultimates being listed as being from “Ultim” versions of their homeworlds, Ben 10,000 being the same guy as from OS, and Dagon being called “Ben’s old enemy”). There’s also obviously that one Ultimate Humungousaur statement I don’t like, but I’d rather have both that and the Eon/Vilgax stuff than have none of it.
Lucubra Vilgax's statement is also in the show
 
To be honest, him appearing past UAF alone is an instance of aca 3.
Yeah he literally blows up at the end of his UA episode, with Paradox even confirming that he was “no more”. Idk if that would be acausality type 3 or just something like resurrection though.
 
TBF given how jumbled Time Travel is for people and how Paradox's appearances are not all in chronological order, it's possible this Eon is from before his death in UA.
 
TBF given how jumbled Time Travel is for people and how Paradox's appearances are not all in chronological order, it's possible this Eon is from before his death in UA.
Tbh I’m not sure about that idea. According to his UA episode he started hunting alternate Bens right after being knocked into cross-time, so I doubt he started doing unrelated plans like the ones seen in OV. Not to mention his minions in OV being apparently robots instead of brainwashed Bens like in UA.
 
Also professor paradox doesn't have sealing. He should have one for trapping Eon inside prime timeline
 
 

Also can anyone please say who is a supporter/opponent/neutral or knowledgable member of the reboot verse?
 

Also can anyone please say who is a supporter/opponent/neutral or knowledgable member of the reboot verse?
I created reboot verse with admin Firstorm.
I have guests in my house right now I'm busy. will read later.
 

Also can anyone please say who is a supporter/opponent/neutral or knowledgable member of the reboot verse?
Demonicdude only probs i also watched the show but i'm not much of a supporter but still i can help ig
 
 
Back
Top