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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

CSM has been added to the themes and such collection and it can't be more than with denji
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a verse that doesn't have any profiles yet, any evaluated calcs, and only has a general discussion
This doesnt quite count but Hells Paradise is on a generational run rn but the verse's profile and lack of calcs is enough to make a grown man cry
 
People won't admit this...but Pochita isn't wrong (probably short of view) Denji was just constantly miserable after he became chainsaw man, people assume Denji was miserable before, and sure, he was, but he was at least happy on dreaming, after he became chainsaw man, the misery just continued to PILE UP AND UP
 
We are in end times if no part 3 happens. An era without CSM is upon us, stay strong.
 
Ok so maybe there’s more than one chapter next lol
That's what I'm thinking too because they are saying "We know that CSM is ending but the details have yet to be confirmed" That probably means two things.
  1. The reason they switched "final chapter coming 3/24" to "to be continued" is because they are not sure when the manga is going to end but they know it will be ending soon.
  2. It is confirmed to be ending but they are not sure if there will be a Part 3.
1 sounds more reasonable to me given the context. But dang this stuff is actually bothering me 😭 It's going to be a long two weeks.
 
The second part was pure crap, despite how much fans defended it, saying we'd consider it a masterpiece in 10 years, but Fujimoto showed he could do even worse. A bunch of unfired guns, ruined characters, devaluing the first part, and wiping out Denji's personal growth. Even from a battle wiki perspective, everyone was recently rejoicing that Denji was now Relatvistic+ and 7-B, and then Yor nearly dies after crashing into a wall and they all get eaten by bugs.

Can the Japanese even finish their manga sequels properly?
 
The second part was pure crap, despite how much fans defended it, saying we'd consider it a masterpiece in 10 years, but Fujimoto showed he could do even worse. A bunch of unfired guns, ruined characters, devaluing the first part, and wiping out Denji's personal growth. Even from a battle wiki perspective, everyone was recently rejoicing that Denji was now Relatvistic+ and 7-B, and then Yor nearly dies after crashing into a wall and they all get eaten by bugs.

Can the Japanese even finish their manga sequels properly?
How did it devalue the first part?
 
The second part was pure crap, despite how much fans defended it, saying we'd consider it a masterpiece in 10 years, but Fujimoto showed he could do even worse. A bunch of unfired guns, ruined characters, devaluing the first part, and wiping out Denji's personal growth. Even from a battle wiki perspective, everyone was recently rejoicing that Denji was now Relatvistic+ and 7-B, and then Yor nearly dies after crashing into a wall and they all get eaten by bugs.

Can the Japanese even finish their manga sequels properly?
Criticising the bugs thing doesn't make sense when we're given a logical explanation for why those devils became so strong
 
Maybe now that Part 2 is almost over they can finally hurry and print the translations for the physical volumes. Volume 20 just released and Volume 24 is almost complete. What do you mean I have to wait two months for the English release of one of the best characters in Part 2.
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How did it devalue the first part?
Denji's personal growth, the emergence of Nayuta and responsibility, Power asking him to find her and befriend her. Pochita's suicide. Denji's problem isn't that he's Chainsaw Man, but that he's a damn sperm-toxicant, a role Fujimoto returns to time and time again.
 
Maybe now that Part 2 is almost over they can finally hurry and print the translations for the physical volumes. Volume 20 just released and Volume 24 is almost complete. What do you mean I have to wait two months for the English release of one of the best characters in Part 2.
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That's just every english release. JJK's last two volumes released at the same time back in December 2024 but the english release for vol 29 just came out last month and the final volume isn't coming out til May
 
What is the exact explanation?
Since death has been erased, the creatures such as insects that often reproduce in high amounts and have high amounts of offspring have become more dangerous because when death still existed most of their offspring would have died out but since death does not exist, they're basically overpopulating the world and needs to sustain themselves because they just take so many kids so they have resorted to being man eaters and it's not just insects, but any animal that has high offspring and because these insects have become so dangerous, human fear towards insects and animals of that nature has sky rocketed, we see the precursor with locust
 
The bug thing still makes no sense to me because Yoru and Denji have not been fighting for that long. It’s been like an hour at absolute maximum and is more likely just 30 minutes. Sure these things reproduce fast but why are they growing so darn quick? We can’t even say hell time dialation because OP bug guy was in hell waiting for them
 
The bug thing still makes no sense to me because Yoru and Denji have not been fighting for that long. It’s been like an hour at absolute maximum and is more likely just 30 minutes. Sure these things reproduce fast but why are they growing so darn quick? We can’t even say hell time dialation because OP bug guy was in hell waiting for them
It is because Reality was readjusting itself
 
Denji's personal growth, the emergence of Nayuta and responsibility, Power asking him to find her and befriend her. Pochita's suicide. Denji's problem isn't that he's Chainsaw Man, but that he's a damn sperm-toxicant, a role Fujimoto returns to time and time again.
What's wrong with Denji's personal growth? What's wrong with Nayuta and responsibility? Should he not have had that or something? Power asking him that doesn't mean it'll happen, I don't see how this devalues part 1. Pochita's suicide makes sense and fits just fine. He's already lived his dreams and with that, he also understands that he brings Denji down to a worser life so now he's rectifying that and hopefully Denji realizes his dreams should've stayed dreams, the same sentiment he had in chapter 1. This is like a big thing in part 1 that he's often disappointed when he gets to experience something he dreamt of and how it all starts to paint a bigger picture with his flaws.

Yeah, Fujimoto's gonna return to his main theme for the character, saying that as a TG fan like Kaneki's not also written endlessly as someone who keeps trying to be the hero and rely on himself when he shouldn't throughout the whole manga. Characters have themes that stick with them throughout stories, why make it out to be bad when its Denji?
 
The bug thing still makes no sense to me because Yoru and Denji have not been fighting for that long. It’s been like an hour at absolute maximum and is more likely just 30 minutes. Sure these things reproduce fast but why are they growing so darn quick? We can’t even say hell time dialation because OP bug guy was in hell waiting for them
Death and famine's removal probably increased their reproduction rate. The devil bugs can just create bugs also.
 
If you don't like Part 2 I cannot and I will not attempt to change your mind. But I can definitely try to touch base with some questions.
What is the exact explanation?
Insect swarms have been mass producing due to the lack of death. The higher the fertility of a species, the more offspring they produce. Because natural selection is no longer at play, the insects do not die (because death was erased from existence by Pochita). To sustain their reproduction they devour humans, who continue to live in fear as small pieces of flesh. This is basically and likely a reference to "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream".

You can imagine that this situation would cause the fear of insects to rise tremendously. That is why you saw so many devils appearing. It feels similar to the Invincible War.
The bug thing still makes no sense to me because Yoru and Denji have not been fighting for that long. It’s been like an hour at absolute maximum and is more likely just 30 minutes. Sure these things reproduce fast but why are they growing so darn quick? We can’t even say hell time dialation because OP bug guy was in hell waiting for them
It probably began happening shortly after Pochita ate death. Hence why K.O guy was bringing in the smoke. It was pretty fast pace, yeah.
 
Also, fun fact. In Chapter 174 (and onward) we learn that Public Safety and the Mifune sector were recording events that were taking place during the final arc. This means that following this reset it is heavily implied that Fujimoto purposely had these events documented so that Public Safety, specifically the government, would be aware of the reality reset. Which will likely no longer be reviewed by Fumiko this time around, but by a ghost.
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Death and famine's removal probably increased their reproduction rate. The devil bugs can just create bugs also.
The loss of death shouldn’t speed up the gestation period though. Even with them making other bugs the spread is absurd. The fight hasn’t gone on that long and in that time period they already ran around the world spreading bugs AND cleared our hell? Something like this should’ve taken a few days at least.


It is because Reality was readjusting itself
Ok that’s another issue I have because this readjustment thing doesn’t seem to be consistent because a world without Death would have way more consequences beyond just this.
 
The loss of death shouldn’t speed up the gestation period though. Even with them making other bugs the spread is absurd. The fight hasn’t gone on that long and in that time period they already ran around the world spreading bugs AND cleared our hell? Something like this should’ve taken a few days at least.
Anything can happen, its the literal first time death has been erased. Why is it absurd? How when the manga already has hundreds of other random absurd shit going on. Bugs outnumber us by the billions so yeah?
 
Anything can happen, its the literal first time death has been erased. Why is it absurd? How when the manga already has hundreds of other random absurd shit going on. Bugs outnumber us by the billions so yeah?
There’s still some logic that should be considered. The story has given me nothing to suggest bugs replicate instantly. The fact of the matter that just removing death doesn’t suddenly make things mate, reproduce and grow at hyper speed.
 
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