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Metal vs Ghoul

Close and "Alita wins 8 fights out of 10" is not something you can call close
That is close.

Kaneki in this form can only avoid Hertza, while Alita, as you described, can negate his kagune. She either detonates it upon first physical contact or neutralizes its power, as you described earlier.

Their heightened senses overlap.
Their instinctive actions overlap.
Their analytical prediction and information analysis overlap.
Their accelerated perception overlaps.
Kaneki's advantage in reaction and attack speed and Alita's skills overlap.
Hertza, which Alita relies on completely in battle, completely overlaps Kaneki's regeneration.

So, we have Kaneki with no advantage in this fight. You mentioned LS, but to use it, you need a hit, which, from what you've written, is impossible without being hit by Hertza. Moreover, you said that she can somehow neutralize his power.
Yeah and? Kaneki doesn't need an advantage in a fight for it to be fair either.

You've already said that she relies primarily on close combat, almost excluding ranged combat. You also said that her fighting style is based on hertza. There's no reason to take its regenerative abilities into account if they're neutralized by her main move.
Yeah so its a win con that bypasses his regen. Nothing wrong with that, that's an example of close/fair match.

Noticing each other early won't give them an advantage, especially considering they both have acrobatics and heightened senses.
Gives Alita an advantage she'll be able to analyze his body.

This match would be ruined even if both sides had prior knowledge, because Alita is a mirror image of Kaneki, only with Overhaul's touch-kill ability.
Just makes the arguments more limited but I don't say to give them it.

I called it close when I thought hertza was some kind of special move and trump card. But if she relies on it as heavily as Kaneki does on his kaguna, that's unfair. At the very least, Kaneki can't create a kaguna indefinitely, while Alita can use hertza without limit. Also, hertza neutralizes a kagune when it hits, but a kagune doesn't neutralize hertza.
Unfair≠mismatch if that's what you're tryna argue. Just means the fights harder for one side to win.


If hertza is a full-blown dura neg, then you could remove the kakuji limitation. Otherwise, I'm leaning toward Foriaa's opinion.
So not gonna vote?
 
So not gonna vote?
Yes, I'm inclined to think it's a stomp. Especially considering you didn't object to anything I said, and based on that, even Kaneki's two wins out of 10 seem contrived to justify this match, even though you yourself called it unfair.
 
Yes, I'm inclined to think it's a stomp. Especially considering you didn't object to anything I said, and based on that, even Kaneki's two wins out of 10 seem contrived to justify this match, even though you yourself called it unfair.
Everything you said is an excuse so there isn't much to object on. Dozens of matches are unfair, we can nitpick matches and argue unfair aspects all day but nothing so far has made this a stomp. And I don't wanna have to argue for Kaneki's side to just appease your ill perspective on the match either.
 
I'll say more. Kaneki has no advantages whatsoever. That's why one of the supporters left this thread, calling it a stomp.
Happens to the best of supporters.
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