Underestimating him? The current consensus is that he's evenly matched with Hornet and that this would most likely be an incon, so I don't see how we're underestimating him.
I didn't even consider quantum arrows at first but yes those will deal serious damage but even his standard arrows will deal quite a bit of damage considering the 3+ times AP gap and Green Arrow is no stranger to fighting characters faster than himself
The vortex of air is still disorienting and hides other arrows from her point of view, keep in mind he can spam these and fire several at once
The thing is he could fire several of them at once in conjunction with other arrows, even a single hit could stagger Hornet just long enough for him to get a clean shot
Sure but Hornet isn't exactly lacking in ways to counter this. She can use her own techniques to shield herself, she can hookshot out of the way, protect herself with Warding Bell and so on. She can survive fairly significant wounds too thanks to her regen.
how significant are these wounds?
As far as I remember, it was a dozen or so stab wounds to the abdomen.
hm. well that certainly makes things harder for green arrow but I still think he could manage
I've been voting for Green Arrow since I first commented bruh
Sorry but I don't count votes unless it's explicitly stated who it is that one is voting for, plus you haven't made any argument yet for why Green Arrow is more likely to win here instead of Hornet.
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Ok, I'll also count his vote as well.
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So is it safe to say that you're voting for Hornet?
So is it safe to assume that you're voting for inconclusive?
Ok I'll elaborate more ig. So first of all not only does Green Arrow have experience against faster opponents, he has incredible marksmanship and given the AP gap, even a slight stagger could leave Hornet vulnerable to a barrage of AOE explosive arrows. In addition, I don't think Hornet can keep healing forever. there's also the fact that Green Arrow, while not known for his tactics, is still a decently skilled archer with high tactical thinking. Once he notices of how and when Hornet is healing, he would target Hornet during those periods. Getting hit while healing is essentially a death sentence for Hornet. AOE explosive arrows ensure Hornet has a very hard time getting close.
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Aside from just dodging it Hornet can also either counter Green Arrow's barrage using Thread Storm or bypass it using Sharpdart. She can also block it using her Forcefield Creation(Warding Bell), and has a chance of negating the damage with her Magnetite Dice so she's not short options for dealing with that.
Hornet herself is a fairly skilled tactician having fought and bested numerous foes during her time.
Unfortunately he can't do that since her Forcefield Creation activates whenever she heals so he'll have to hit her while she's on the move.
how frequently can she do this because I'm confident green Arrow could manage a snipe in between her attacks
how durable is this forcefield
What's the chance?
depending on how durable the forcefield is, several explosive arrows might just do the trick
AOE explosive and tornado arrow barrages could clear nearby cover and also force hornet to stay back leaving her more vulnerable
There's a few seconds needed to regenerate the silk. Though admittedly this is a bit weird because as a boss Hornet has no such restriction, so it's possible this is a partial gameplay thing. Either way relatively spammable but not constantly so.
It breaks upon being hit but in doing so releases a burst of energy to clear away attacks and threats.
Low.
Sure, but she's mobile (and faster) to the point that if they're shot from a certain distance she can probably just move ahead of the burst before they reach her location.
hm...i'm still confident ga could manage shots during those few seconds
that does appear to be a problem, is this ability a passive thing?
In that case I don't think this should be a reliable win con
well green arrow's great range and marksmanship would help mitigate the speed gap plus the longer the fight goes on, the more the cover is gonna be cleared making it easier for Hornet to be sniped, i'd still say green Arrow eventually wins with extreme difficulty
Sure but Hornet still isn't devoid of options when that's going on. She can deflect attacks with her weapon, move out of the way and so on. I don't disagree Ollie can catch her off-guard but with her sheer mobility he also doesn't have that much time before she's up close, she can hookshot across dozens of meters at once, is extremely acrobatic and has the Silkspeed Anklets equipped which let her run even faster.
No, it's active while she heals and its activation cancels the heal. It is something Hornet could use even when not hurt as a barrier though.
Agreed, it's just a little bonus.
Hornet is mobile enough that she can just reposition to different areas that haven't been destroyed, I think "clearing all cover" is a bit of a strange claim given SBA is in central park, a place with no shortage of random stuff to hide behind. Oliver also probably isn't carrying literal dozens of explosive arrows and since all of his trick arrows are optional equipment he might not have the really deadly stuff on hand. (Though he's almost certainly got explosive arrows, those are very common gear for him) A lot of other such arrows, like freeze arrows, fire arrows and anything based on restraining Hornet, won't be effective due to her resistances and high LS.
I still think explosive and tornado arrows would be effective at keeping her at bay. Even a second of stalled time is a opportunity for him to land a crucial shot. He's not inexperienced in dealing with highly mobile opponents
Is there any sort of cooldown? does it require silk to be used? cuz if its spammable I think hornet wins for sure
Well I don't believe it was ever confirmed how many arrows he has...maybe more knowledgable DC people can comment on that
Of course but I think Hornet is still uniquely advantaged by the environment and her mobility.
It requires a bunch of Silk, and the act of binding forces her to stay in place for a moment. It's situational.
Hm. Still a problem, but I still think green arrow could manage if he plays his cards right
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So have you decided who your going to vote for?
