Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

Are you talking about from inside and Yuta's HP? Not continuing this bad faith presentation of the manga and scaling if you are.

Calling it bad faith without explaining why its not an argument

With his own domain from the outside...

Incomplete domain and Cleave adapts to toughness of the things. Nowhere stated you can't destroy domain from inside

Doesn't mean he scales or even relative.

It means he scales to them idk how statement means nothing to you now.

Duh...?

No?

Gojo mentioned on Bos idk what you mean by no here

Beyond a big dismantle he has nothing to show.

You still failed to understand the point dismantle power getting decreasing the more distance it goes and his CE control was so good he literally spams a BF in his first try.

He's already shown no hand movements against Kusakabe.

I said better feat not no hand movements dude

Feat Sukuna showed while dying.

A single slash = 360⁰ dismantle spam Yuji dropped?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The Domain muscle memory argument probably isn't the best one to use when Sukuna used MS more times in Megumi's body than in Yuji's (twice).

You know Sorcerers can analyse barriers and like I said he has improved his CE control, his BM and Shrine CT and his CT control without hand signs. Yuji already has not only muscle memory his own memory on what Sukuna done and he also watched Sukuna vs Gojo fight, he leaned barrier skills from Kusakabe. It would far fetched to assume he let his domain skills rot when he is a psuedo immortal and had lot of time and only improved CTs and CE control throughout his life.

We don't know if Megumi had enough time since some know when he kicked the bucket so no comments on him. When you think about it dude had better barrier skills than Teen Gojo idk since he already manifested incomplete domain before coming to Gojo's age? Well I don't want to go into Potential man territory

Again, no one even disagrees with Yuji possibly being Gojo level with barriers, but when there is nothing onscreen showing his barrier skill, it's okay to not want to go out and say that he's for sure on that level. Surpassing Sukuna in some things doesn't necessarily mean he has in barrier skills, that's not a foolproof argument.

Have you checked Arkenis and tree replies? They literally thinks his domain skills haven't improved at all.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

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I'm not even using Yuji beating Gojo with barrier skills or saying he should be equal to him no matter what. I was giving a logical reasoning why narratively it wouldn't work like he hasn't improved his skills like Arkenis and tree claimed which is irrelevant to me. So I hope I don't get any replying implying I'm saying Yuji skills matches Gojo or surpasses him. I'm giving the interpretations that's all.

 

[Arkenis]

It means he scales to them idk how statement means nothing to you now.

No they mean everything, but I'm not gonna bs my way through scaling with such a bad extrapolation of the statement without more to show for it

Gojo mentioned on Bos idk what you mean by no here

He didn't.

You still failed to understand the point dismantle power getting decreasing the more distance it goes and his CE control was so good he literally spams a BF in his first try.

It means nothing for overall scaling. So what he hit a bf first try, that's something he's been hyped to be good at hitting since Shibuya.

I said better feat not no hand movements dude

Its definitionally the same feat.

A single slash = 360⁰ dismantle spam Yuji dropped?

Why is it better skill wise?

Have you checked Arkenis and tree replies? They literally thinks his domain skills haven't improved at all.

I never said that. He's clearly improved I think I said it before but if I didn't, its clear he's gotten better at shrine application and pb usage but that's all we're shown. Anything else is beyond speculation and just fanboying.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No they mean everything, but I'm not gonna bs my way through scaling with such a bad extrapolation of the statement without more to show for it

What bad explanation? His uncontrolled HP destroyed the barrier by accident that's why Sukuna says Yuta is not good with that.

He didn't.

It means nothing for overall scaling. So what he hit a bf first try, that's something he's been hyped to be good at hitting since Shibuya.

Except he needs to lock in for first BF. Not like he just concentrates and hits it.
Check Gojo and Sukuna first BF too they literally need to lock in concentrate and land the blow.

Its definitionally the same feat.

Why is it better skill wise?

He is controlling more dismantle strikes than Sukuna that's why? With precision

I never said that. He's clearly improved I think I said it before but if I didn't, its clear he's gotten better at shrine application and pb usage but that's all we're shown. Anything else is beyond speculation and just fanboying.

Like bruh is saying fanboying when interpretations arent a thing anymore

 

[Rodriiogo]

I can see Sukuna having a wincon against Yuji but Gojo? You can pretty much argue Yuji having more wincons against Gojo than Gojo having against Yuji

Yuji's scaling as of right now is "he is sukuna level" (I agree btw), and that's it.

I think Gojo and Sukuna have way better wincons than him in a fight because of way better and more quantity in abilities/techniques alongside better feats on using them than Yuji did. Sukuna also has a way better advantage in TF since yk, 4 arms, 2 mouths.

I don't think Yuji has anyway of bypassing infinity other than domain which Gojo would overcome as he matches Sukuna's Shrine which Yuji has no domain feats compared to.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuji's scaling as of right now is "he is sukuna level" (I agree btw), and that's it.

Dabura is on Sukuna's level and Yuji is on Dabura level. CT was never compared so Yuji's own feats are his own. His Dismantle surpasses Sukuna in range and should also in power like how dismantle logically works.

I think Gojo and Sukuna have way better wincons than him in a fight because of way better and more quantity in abilities/techniques alongside better feats on using them than Yuji did. Sukuna also has a way better advantage in TF since yk, 4 arms, 2 mouths.

I don't think Yuji has anyway of bypassing infinity other than domain which Gojo would overcome as he matches Sukuna's Shrine which Yuji has no domain feats compared to.

What's stopping Yuji using SD and cleaving Gojo's domain since he got range advantage with his dismantle feat?

 

[Steve1775]

 

[Rodriiogo]

Dabura is on Sukuna's level and Yuji is on Dabura level.

That's just another way of saying "Yuji is sukuna's level" with extra steps. Both dabura and yuji are comparable to sukuna physically yea.

CT was never compared so Yuji's own feats are his own.

What?

His Dismantle surpasses Sukuna in range and should also in power like how dismantle logically works.

It surpasses him in range, I don't know where you got power from. Tsurika's SSK slash matches that dismantle.

What's stopping Yuji using SD and cleaving Gojo's domain since he got range advantage with his dismantle feat?

The fact that he's not faster than Gojo, they are comparable. That's like asking why didnt Sukuna do the same and clashed instead, also the moment infinite void even hits him for 0.0001 seconds, he's already getting affected, we've seen that with Sukuna.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That's just another way of saying "Yuji is sukuna's level" with extra steps. Both dabura and yuji are comparable to sukuna physically yea.

Which I do agree

What?

They were compared Physically not that they would be compared 1:1 on CT output also. You know Coursed technique can have different output than their physical CE reinforcements

It surpasses him in range, I don't know where you got power from. Tsurika's SSK slash matches that dismantle.

Dismantle power decreases the more distance it goes and Yuji's dismantle was damn big we literally see size of the dismantle showcasing diff level of power in the verse. Tsurika having same feat means nothing since it's Cursed tool+ CE blast doing it which no one scales and even if it did it doesn't matter since I'm not talking about the blast but the distance of dismantle and size of it.

The fact that he's not faster than Gojo, they are comparable.

Bruh what speed has anything to do with Cleaving the domain. He just needs expand his CT using SD that's enough. How having equal speed stops him from using his CT?

That's like asking why didnt Sukuna do the same and clashed instead, also the moment infinite void even hits him for 0.0001 seconds, he's already getting affected, we've seen that with Sukuna.

His head wouldn't be affected like Sukuna since he is a partial curse. But yes it would affect but if Sukuna cast his CT with that time alone I don't see why Yuji can't cast SD+CT.

 

[Arkenis]

What bad explanation? His uncontrolled HP destroyed the barrier by accident that's why Sukuna says Yuta is not good with that.

It's Yuta not Gojo. And this still doesn't mean Yuji's shrine would do it.

I thought you were talking about during Shinjuku since you said bos (battle of shinjuku). What does bos mean then? But this is most likely just wishful thinking than anything serious, more supportive than concrete and not really supporting anything since the most you've argued is hitting bf and doing a big dismantle spam.

Except he needs to lock in for first BF. Not like he just concentrates and hits it.
Check Gojo and Sukuna first BF too they literally need to lock in concentrate and land the blow.

BF is about concentration so yeah Yuji does need to concentrate, what exactly is the point here? Again how does this prove he's on their level.

He is controlling more dismantle strikes than Sukuna that's why? With precision

"That's precision"
Sukuna's already shown to control dozens of dismantles. He hits Yuji with a lot while his ct is suppressed, he turned Nanako into cubes, did this to Yuta and Yuji. This is hardly different to what Yuji did, Yuji's just looks cooler and has more range cuz he extended it. There wasn't much precision either, just a checkered pattern.

Like bruh is saying fanboying when interpretations arent a thing anymore

Interpretation can only go so far. You're taking it to the max when nothing is concrete, the fact you got me arguing over Yuji doing a lot of dismantles vs Sukuna doing dismantle says enough for where the bar is to prove skill for you is.

 

[Electronic74947]

Yorozu glazers, don't fear for I am here

It took a days work of mai's CE to make a single bullet

Assuming 1 watt per second for the day to create a bullet

The bullet is 0.022 kg

so the amount of CE to make a bullet is 3927272.72727 joules

Gallium is a liquid matal, assuming a m^3 of the stuff that'd be 6000kg

6000/0.022 = 272727.272727 times so then applying that to our bullet creation energy makes 1.0710744e+12 joules or 255.9 tons of tnt.

MCB consistency for heavy hitttterrrrs

 

[Arkenis]

Give it a rest omg

 

[Electronic74947]

Give it a rest omg

ohhhhh, sorry

 

[Arkenis]

MCB consistency for heavy hitttterrrrs

Agree with this though

 

[Electronic74947]

Agree with this though

but you told me to give it a rest..........so annoying you know. No wonder we divorced

 

[Arkenis]

but you told me to give it a rest..........so annoying you know. No wonder we divorced

 

[Electronic74947]

You're still allowed Opp on the weekesnds tho. he's starting to annoy me like his mother

 

[Rogue_Forge]

theres other ways to get heavy hitters to MCBL but aight

 

[Electronic74947]

theres other ways to get heavy hitters to MCBL but aight

yeah i was joking lol, just found the result funny if you did something other than E=MC^2

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It's Yuta not Gojo. And this still doesn't mean Yuji's shrine would do it.

Why wouldn't it. Yuta's domain output and barrier was matching Shrine with full output. So done see why Yuji if we consider equal to Gojo/Sukuna can't cleave the Domain with his long range.

I thought you were talking about during Shinjuku since you said bos (battle of shinjuku). What does bos mean then? But this is most likely just wishful thinking than anything serious, more supportive than concrete and not really supporting anything since the most you've argued is hitting bf and doing a big dismantle spam.

Beginning of the Series bruh you didn't knew that?
It's not a wishful thinking Narratively it's keep presenting his potential is to reach Sukuna's level

BF is about concentration so yeah Yuji does need to concentrate, what exactly is the point here? Again how does this prove he's on their level.

You don't see Gojo and Sukuna concentrating and spamming BF like Yuji did.

"That's precision"
Sukuna's already shown to control dozens of dismantles. He hits Yuji with a lot while his ct is suppressed, he turned Nanako into cubes, did this to Yuta and Yuji. This is hardly different to what Yuji did, Yuji's just looks cooler and has more range cuz he extended it. There wasn't much precision either, just a checkered pattern.

You are bringing small time feat to compare it to big one. Dismantle Yuji spammed were more.

Interpretation can only go so far. You're taking it to the max when nothing is concrete, the fact you got me arguing over Yuji doing a lot of dismantles vs Sukuna doing dismantle says enough for where the bar is to prove skill for you is.

Using one sword and 3 swords with same skill precision would be a different level of skill set itself you can't just compared 1 dismantle with guy who can spam numerous ones. And call that bad.

 

[Zabazab]

The upgrade thread is staff-only I can't derail it by filling it with distractions

Anyways there is no way to scale Yūji to the god tiers beyond headcanon. He has no feats and he has no statements. Gojo, Sukuna, or Dabura would blitz and one-shot Modulo Yūji if they wanted to.

 

[Electronic74947]

The upgrade thread is staff-only I can't derail it by filling it with distractions

send

Anyways there is no way to scale Yūji to the god tiers beyond headcanon. He has no feats and he has no statements. Gojo, Sukuna, or Dabura would blitz and one-shot Modulo Yūji if they wanted to.

"we need yuji itadori"

 

[Treeztarz]

The upgrade thread is staff-only I can't derail it by filling it with distractions

Anyways there is no way to scale Yūji to the god tiers beyond headcanon. He has no feats and he has no statements. Gojo, Sukuna, or Dabura would blitz and one-shot Modulo Yūji if they wanted to.

the real potential man all along

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Yorozu glazers, don't fear for I am here

It took a days work of mai's CE to make a single bullet

Assuming 1 watt per second for the day to create a bullet

The bullet is 0.022 kg

so the amount of CE to make a bullet is 3927272.72727 joules

Gallium is a liquid matal, assuming a m^3 of the stuff that'd be 6000kg

6000/0.022 = 272727.272727 times so then applying that to our bullet creation energy makes 1.0710744e+12 joules or 255.9 tons of tnt.

MCB consistency for heavy hitttterrrrs

it's actually about 1.28 m^3 so closer to 327 tons of TNT

 

[ElJoaki5]

The upgrade thread is staff-only I can't derail it by filling it with distractions

That didnt stop zyurtunder, youre just not on his level gang

 

[Electronic74947]

it's actually about 1.28 m^3 so closer to 327 tons of TNT

truth nuke

 

[Rogue_Forge]

yeah i was joking lol, just found the result funny if you did something other than E=MC^2

I didn't read this message

 

[Electronic74947]

That didnt stop zyurtunder, youre just not on his level gang

yes but he's the soul exception. The one who left it all behind and his overwhelming intensity. For him, it doesn't even matter because in the end, he's pretty darn cute

 

[Electronic74947]

Can we talk about that stupid MCB naoya calc

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Can we talk about that stupid MCB naoya calc

Didn't that one get recalc'd?

 

[Arkenis]

Why wouldn't it. Yuta's domain output and barrier was matching Shrine with full output. So done see why Yuji if we consider equal to Gojo/Sukuna can't cleave the Domain with his long range.

Because Gojo/Sukuna > Yuji.

Beginning of the Series bruh you didn't knew that?
It's not a wishful thinking Narratively it's keep presenting his potential is to reach Sukuna's level

I do, just didn't think thats what you were referring to. It is though. His whole thing is for them to develop strength different from him, so I find it hard that statement solely refers to power, instead it more aligns with his idea of creating sorcerers different from him in strength but still leaders.

You are bringing small time feat to compare it to big one. Dismantle Yuji spammed were more.

More because he used more, not more because only he could use more. Sukuna can do the same and I've shown it, we've seen him use giant dismantles before also I forgot to mention that, this is just not enough to say Yuji's above.

Using one sword and 3 swords with same skill precision would be a different level of skill set itself you can't just compared 1 dismantle with guy who can spam numerous ones. And call that bad.

They aren't wielding swords so this analogy is already bad, but still as I said Sukuna's spammed multiple dismantles before. Can you show in the manga where it's stated precision is a factor in utilizing more dismantles?

 

[Arkenis]

Can we talk about that stupid MCB naoya calc

Mine? KT's already recalced it and I put it on the verse page.

 

[Buraqibear]

Joakin didn't use Purple destroying Maho's wheel as an argument, huh.

 

[Electronic74947]

Mine? KT's already recalced it and I put it on the verse page.

oh he did? Nvm i thought the mcb was still accepted, good thing he's not a kashimo wanker

 

[ElJoaki5]

Joakin didn't use Purple destroying Maho's wheel as an argument, huh.

I might be desperate but not like that

 

[Electronic74947]

Didn't that one get recalc'd?

didn't know about it lol

 

[Electronic74947]

Didn't that one get recalc'd?

while you're here......ping tempest in that thread for me

 

[Zabazab]

send

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[Buraqibear]

I might be desperate but not like that

It's accepted for scaling it to fuga tho...