GRACE ENDED [7-0-0] Anti-Nazist-Ghost-Robot...?

[BlackDarkness679]

FNAF 4: The FRA edition

 

[Doggo]

What's stopping Hitler from having Pol Pot simply stay in the room and wait for Nightmare instead of sending him away from her?

She is smart, she would probably recognize that she is being misdirected.

(never thought I would be doing this)

 

[Nonynho]

What's stopping Hitler from having Pol Pot simply stay in the room and wait for Nightmare instead of sending him away from her?

She is smart, she would probably recognize that she is being misdirected.

(never thought I would be doing this)

I've pointed out before, if Nightmare can't enter normally in the room he'll just fake laugh and GG Hitler while Pol Pot investigates the fake laugh.
As he's not restricted by Game Mechanics like, y'know, in the game, he should be able to just freak them out because you can't know without looking after it which direction is he's coming from and if the laugh is fake or not

 

[Doggo]

I've pointed out before, if Nightmare can't enter normally in the room he'll just fake laugh and GG Hitler while Pol Pot investigates the fake laugh.
As he's not restricted by Game Mechanics like, y'know, in the game, he should be able to just freak them out because you can't know without looking after it which direction is he's coming from and if the laugh is fake or not

Again, what's stopping Hitler, who is much smarter than Nightmare here, from recognizing the fact that she is probably being misdirected by a fake laugh?

A normal person would recognize that leaving yourself exposed by making your only chance of survival leave the room is going to be incredibly risky. And the better alternative is to simply make Pol Pot wait in the room with you and beat Nightmare up the moment it enters.

You also gave them prior knowledge, btw

Bad guys have full prior knowledge of how he operates

She would instantly see through its scheme with this


Also, why is Nightmare not affected by game mechanics exactly?

 

[Nonynho]

Again, what's stopping Hitler, who is much smarter than Nightmare here, from recognizing the fact that she is probably being misdirected by a fake laugh?

A normal person would recognize that leaving yourself exposed by making your only chance of survival leave the room is going to be incredibly risky. And the better alternative is to simply make Pol Pot wait in the room with you and beat Nightmare up the moment it enters.

Nightmare's fake laugh (or the real one) are always in the room, it wouldn't make Pol Pot go anywhere to check
But wherever he's checking gives an opening for Nightmare to kill Hitler
and he also teleports so he doesn't need someone to give him a physical opening to enter, just to distract Pol Pot for one microssecond for him to TP and kill Hitler

Also, why is Nightmare not affected by game mechanics exactly?

because nobody is affected by things explicitely binded to game mechanics in versus threads

 

[Doggo]

Nightmare's fake laugh (or the real one) are always in the room, it wouldn't make Pol Pot go anywhere to check
But wherever he's checking gives an opening for Nightmare to kill Hitler
and he also teleports so he doesn't need someone to give him a physical opening to enter, just to distract Pol Pot for one microssecond for him to TP and kill Hitler


because nobody is affected by things explicitely binded to game mechanics in versus threads

You did not address the prior knowledge point, which counters your argument.

Again, you are talking about the character with GENIUS level intelligience! She won't be fooled by a basic misdirection move.

Also, saying the laugh is located in the room means......there is no need to check outside? and why would Pol Pot check a door if there is a possibilty to Nightmare entering through the other door?

Nothing is stopping Hitler from sitting next to Pol Pot to immediately defend her if Nightmare teleports, especially with prior knowledge.

 

[Nonynho]

You did not address the prior knowledge point, which counters your argument.

I did.
he needs to distract Pol Pot ONCE and not only does he have from 12~06AM to do so, but he'll actively try to
And if he gets Pol Pot distracted for a single fraction of second, he can TP and finish Hitler
Pol Pot is Athletic in Stamina and Average in Intelligence, so for you to tell me that he won't be distracted a single time it's quite unreasonable

Also, saying the laugh is located in the room means......there is no need to check outside? and why would Pol Pot check a door if there is a possibilty to Nightmare entering through the other door?

Well, because if he doesn't it becomes easier for Nightmare to jump Hitler's ass?

Nothing is stopping Hitler from sitting next to Pol Pot to immediately defend her if Nightmare teleports, especially with prior knowledge

if he looks to the side, it is enough for Hitler to get Insta-killed.
The thing that makes Nightmare superior to his FNAF 4 peers is because he isn't running against the child, he IKs it.


Also, something VERY hard to defend is the fact that Pol Pot affects everything in the range, not a selective target, so any breach for Nightmare is enough for Hitler to be dead and in most cases, Pol Pot not being able to do a thing without risking him being the killer of Hitler ig Hitler is always quite prone to friendly fire, huh

 

[Doggo]

I did.
he needs to distract Pol Pot ONCE and not only does he have from 12~06AM to do so, but he'll actively try to
And if he gets Pol Pot distracted for a single fraction of second, he can TP and finish Hitler
Pol Pot is Athletic in Stamina and Average in Intelligence, so for you to tell me that he won't be distracted a single time it's quite unreasonable


Well, because if he doesn't it becomes easier for Nightmare to jump Hitler's ass?


if he looks to the side, it is enough for Hitler to get Insta-killed.
The thing that makes Nightmare superior to his FNAF 4 peers is because he isn't running against the child, he IKs it.


Also, something VERY hard to defend is the fact that Pol Pot affects everything in the range, not a selective target, so any breach for Nightmare is enough for Hitler to be dead and in most cases, Pol Pot not being able to do a thing without risking him being the killer of Hitler ig Hitler is always quite prone to friendly fire, huh

Then this is just a stomp? Idk what you can do for Hitler here if Pol Pot can accidentally kill her too. She was zero wincons on this scenario

 

[Nonynho]

Then this is just a stomp? Idk what you can do for Hitler here if Pol Pot can accidentally kill her too. She was zero wincons on this scenario

simply catching Nightmare before he catches Hitler
It is not impossible, just unlikely because of how Nightmare uses his kit. tbh if Pol Pot was also smart they'd no-diff him

pretty please vote Nightmare for Grace to start...?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

guh.

what args rn

 

[Nonynho]

guh.

what args rn

very simple:

-Pol Pot needs basically nothing to be able to kill Nightmare, just the opportunity
-Nightmare is in the same place, can kill Hitler with ease
-Nightmare gets to kill Hitler more often than Pol Pot kills Nightmare
-Just one vote left to start grace

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

guh I meant args for both

 

[Nonynho]

guh I meant args for both

I have summarized both sides'

Pol Pot can just make quick work of Nighmare as soon as he sees it, the argument for their side is that Hitler will correctly predict Nightmare's moves and Pol Pot will gg him

Nightmare's argument is basically "nuh uh" with a ton of reasoning behind it

 

[Doggo]

simply catching Nightmare before he catches Hitler
It is not impossible, just unlikely because of how Nightmare uses his kit. tbh if Pol Pot was also smart they'd no-diff him

pretty please vote Nightmare for Grace to start...?

and whats stopping from Nightmare from attacking again?

 

[Nonynho]

and whats stopping from Nightmare from attacking again?

wym?

If his attack fails is because Pol Pot killed him, 100%

 

[Doggo]

wym?

If his attack fails is because Pol Pot killed him, 100%

Btw how far would Nightmare be from Hitler if he teleports?

 

[Nonynho]

Btw how far would Nightmare be from Hitler if he teleports?

right next

 

[DontTalkDT]

(really, why trick your opponents about range when you can just rot the floor with them on it?)

Because if you don't trick Einstein about the range, the teleporter would never enter your range.


And Schödinger's chances of killing Hitler were 0%, so I have my doubts that it's really that easy to catch Polpot off-guard.
To that comes that Hitler could put some Swastika in the other hallway for surveillance, if they go with the two ways approach.

 

[Nonynho]

To that comes that Hitler could put some Swastika in the other hallway for surveillance, if they go with the two ways approach.

If hitler gets out of the room he's 100% dead
No prep time for that, also

I have my doubts that it's really that easy to catch Polpot off-guard.

With real laughs, fake laughs and projecting random parts of the body it is not impossible to believe that he can get an athletic-stamina-average-intelligence guy to be distracted once from 12am to 06am, and once is just what he needs to gg Hitler

 

[Nonynho]

bump

 

[Nonynho]

bump

 

[Nonynho]

bump

 

[Nonynho]

bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I still can't see how hitler can't just say to her ally 'Stay here in the room and just kill whatever enters this place" instead of sending her ally to kill

 

[Doggo]

I still can't see how hitler can't just say to her ally 'Stay here in the room and just kill whatever enters this place" instead of sending her ally to kill

Indeed. Especially with prior knowledge on how Nightmare works

 

[Nonynho]

I still can't see how hitler can't just say to her ally 'Stay here in the room and just kill whatever enters this place" instead of sending her ally to kill

Once again, Nightmare just needs one distraction from Pol Pot to tp and IK Hitler, it does not matter if Pol Pot gets out or not

 

[JustANormalLemon]

still don't see the point

 

[Nonynho]

still don't see the point

well, i'll go again:

Let's say Pol Pot is sharing the same room with Hitler, hell, let's say Hitler's in the bed and Pol Pot is in the bedside
they know Nightmare has his TP associated with his laugh, and he laughs all the time, being able to project his laugh in specific places to get you to look to the wrong direction and instantly TP and IK.

All Nightmare needs is to have Pol Pot look wherever once and he can IK Hitler

And this happens more often then Pol Pot can IK him because for it not to work it'd need for someone with Average Intelligence and Athletic Stamina to not get distraught once for 6 hours straight.
Or find him and IK him.

As soon as Nightmare TPs it is over, because Pol Pot cannot kill him without risking rotting Hitler, neither can he kill Nightmare before the latter IKs Hitler

 

[JustANormalLemon]

well, i'll go again:

Let's say Pol Pot is sharing the same room with Hitler, hell, let's say Hitler's in the bed and Pol Pot is in the bedside
they know Nightmare has his TP associated with his laugh, and he laughs all the time, being able to project his laugh in specific places to get you to look to the wrong direction and instantly TP and IK.

All Nightmare needs is to have Pol Pot look wherever once and he can IK Hitler

And this happens more often then Pol Pot can IK him because for it not to work it'd need for someone with Average Intelligence and Athletic Stamina to not get distraught once for 6 hours straight.
Or find him and IK him.

As soon as Nightmare TPs it is over, because Pol Pot cannot kill him without risking rotting Hitler, neither can he kill Nightmare before the latter IKs Hitler

fair I guess, voting nightmare

 

[Nonynho]

fair I guess, voting nightmare

Cool, valeu mano! Grace has ended yesterday 1:16PM* BRT so i'll ask someone to close this

Thank you everyone who came here and

F*** NAZISM!