Minato Namikaze vs Elder Centipede and Overgrown Rover

[Kachon123]

Attack Potency: 7 Teratons, higher with Rasengan, far higher with Sage Mode
Durability: 7 Teratons, higher with Sage Mode, 157.42 Petatons with Barriers
Lifting Strength: 2.6439 Billion Metric Tons, far higher with Sage Mode

Attack Potency: 3.713 Teratons (both), far higher with Charged Blasts (Rover), 22.278 Teratons after Molting (Elder Centipede)
Durability: 7.426 Teratons (both), 22.278 Teratons after Molting (Elder Centipede)
Lifting Strength: 14.4694535 Million Metric Tons (Rover), 6.70616705 Trillion Metric Tons (Elder Centipede and Rover with Blasts)

Minato is in his Alive key. Elder Centipede can molt as many times is necessary
Speed equalized
Starting distance: 200 meters

Location: Konoha

Can the Yellow Flash defend the village… or will the Monster Association’s executives bury it beneath overwhelming force?

4th Hokage: 6
Cadre Duo:
Inconclusive:

 

[DavidTPPM]

Minato might lowkenuinely just drop big Bunta on Rovers face and 1v1 EC

 

[Epiccheev]

Do any of them have something that can destroy EC entirely? Otherwise it will just keep molting

 

[MrTayman616]

Minato might lowkenuinely just drop big Bunta on Rovers face and 1v1 EC

Rover just spams his heat beams though. Just leaving him to Bunta would cause massive damage to the village.

 

[Kachon123]

Minato might lowkenuinely just drop big Bunta on Rovers face and 1v1 EC

I think Rover has that in the bag though, no? His danmaku is pretty strong and unless Gamabunta has solid heat resistance he might get vaporized after a barrage.

 

[Kachon123]

True, also keep in mind that Minato is going to want to minimize damage to the village.

 

[Epiccheev]

I know his sealing likely can't, but imagine some poor ninja kid out there becomes Jinchuriki to a giant tapeworm

 

[DavidTPPM]

Rover just spams his heat beams though. Just leaving him to Bunta would cause massive damage to the village.

I think Rover has that in the bag though, no? His danmaku is pretty strong and unless Gamabunta has solid heat resistance he might get vaporized after a barrage.

Bunta restricts his ass and just aims his face away from the village. And if he becomes a problem he'd just FTG him out of the village.

I mean this is LITERALLY what happened with Kurama and Obito. Minato dropped Bunta on his face and when Kurama was about to nuke the village he just ported it far away.

Ntm Minato should be able to summon the other toads too so Rover might also be going 1v3 here

 

[Epiccheev]

He might also legit be able to tame Rover considering his intelligence.

 

[Kachon123]

Bunta restricts his ass and just aims his face away from the village. And if he becomes a problem he'd just FTG him out of the village.

I mean this is LITERALLY what happened with Kurama and Obito. Minato dropped Bunta on his face and when Kurama was about to nuke the village he just ported it far away.

Ntm Minato should be able to summon the other toads too so Rover might also be going 1v3 here

Minato would still be occupied by EC, no? Even if he summons Bunta on top of Rover to halt him for a moment, EC would still be rampaging and attacking him. Idk if he'd be able to FTG Rover's blasts away. These are also very spamable so it would take a lot of focus that Minato is forced to divide to consistently stop them from nuking the area.

 

[Nonynho]

Ok so, something Minato could eventually try is putting a f*** ton of natural chakra in EC, which can turn it into a frog statue lmao
While i was going to say stuff about his summons, a colleague just said them, so... Enhanced Duraneg from Rasengan with Sage Mode may help? idk, i ain't seeing ways for Minato to perma incap EC (not IC at least, cuz turning EC into a frog statue is unfortunately quite OoC)

 

[Kachon123]

Ok so, something Minato could eventually try is putting a f*** ton of natural chakra in EC, which can turn it into a frog statue lmao

Maybe but EC is massive. Is he going to be able to do allat while EC is fighting back and burrowing underground constantly?

 

[Nonynho]

Maybe but EC is massive. Is he going to be able to do allat while EC is fighting back and burrowing underground constantly?

Just edited it, it is unfortunately ooc

 

[Kachon123]

Oh right, I think I should mention that any failed attempt to take out EC in one go would result in a new molted form with far greater stats and (presumably) more potent abilities. Too many fails and EC might become too large and too powerful to be dealt with.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Minato would still be occupied by EC, no?

The summoning is really quick. He'd just shunshin on top of Rover, insta drop Bunta and maybe the rest of the squad on him, and then shunshin back to EC

Even if he summons Bunta on top of Rover to halt him for a moment, EC would still be rampaging and attacking him. Idk if he'd be able to FTG Rover's blasts away. These are also very spamable so it would take a lot of focus that Minato is forced to divide to consistently stop them from nuking the area.

Not the blasts but Rover himself. Minato has FTG marks out of the village. When he fought Kurama he specifically ported it far out of the village alongside its TBB

So the numbers advantage should actually be pretty manageable.

What I'm more worried about is Minatos lack of range and ECs size ngl. His only answer might be sealing and I personally don't remember any combat applicable seals he has

 

[Kachon123]

Not the blasts but Rover himself. Minato has FTG marks out of the village. When he fought Kurama he specifically ported it far out of the village alongside its TBB

So the numbers advantage should actually be pretty manageable.

Oh alright. Are the FTG marks pre-set up or are they something he has to place ahead of time.? If it's the former, then I could give him prep time if it makes the fight more fair.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Oh alright. Are the FTG marks pre-set up or are they something he has to place ahead of time.? If it's the former, then I could give him prep time if it makes the fight more fair.

They're pre-set. Iirc there was even a statement about Minato having save houses throughout the world with marks.

When Obito attacks Minato instantly teleported Naruto out of the village so that one was definitely always ready. We also see Minato give Kakashi a mark and mark his opponents so it's pretty consistent he leaves marks everywhere he can.

 

[Kachon123]

They're pre-set. Iirc there was even a statement about Minato having save houses throughout the world with marks.

When Obito attacks Minato instantly teleported Naruto out of the village so that one was definitely always ready. We also see Minato give Kakashi a mark and mark his opponents so it's pretty consistent he leaves marks everywhere he can.

Alright then. I think Rover could still pop pack up fairly quickly considering he's a dog. His natural senses should be enhanced exponentially through monsterization so he should technically be able to sniff his way back

 

[DavidTPPM]

Alright then. I think Rover could still pop pack up fairly quickly considering he's a dog. His natural senses should be enhanced exponentially through monsterization so he should technically be able to sniff his way back

Yeah but he has a bigahh toad sitting on his face and restricting him with superior LS so I think Minato should have enough time to fight and maybe seal EC.

Bunta definitely isn't some super godly fighter but he ain't no pushover either. His AP is almost equal to Rovers dura but he wields a sword, meaning he could cut Rover up. Plus he has the LS advantage to restrain him, and water bullets to neutralize heat based attacks. If Gamabunta fights him alone he's definitely at least wounding him severely, and if Minato drops all 3 big toads they're undoubtedly packing Rover up. There's also some vague heat res arguments for him too.

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah but he has a bigahh toad sitting on his face and restricting him with superior LS so I think Minato should have enough time to fight and maybe seal EC.

Bunta definitely isn't some super godly fighter but he ain't no pushover either. His AP is almost equal to Rovers dura but he wields a sword, meaning he could cut Rover up. Plus he has the LS advantage to restrain him, and water bullets to neutralize heat based attacks. If Gamabunta fights him alone he's definitely at least wounding him severely, and if Minato drops all 3 big toads they're undoubtedly packing Rover up. There's also some vague heat res arguments for him too.

Maybe in terms of values, but as for scaling, I don't think so. Rover tanked an attack that is superior to another attack that pulverized pre-molt EC. Pre-molt EC scales a good bit over that value due to statements.

As for Bunta using a sword, the attack Rover tanked to scale to this value used cutting attacks, so I don't think that changes anything. I don't think Bunta will be much of a threat to Rover. He and the 3 toads get vaporized pretty quickly.

 

[Nonynho]

If Gamabunta fights him alone he's definitely at least wounding him severely, and if Minato drops all 3 big toads they're undoubtedly packing Rover up. There's also some vague heat res arguments for him too.

I'm inclined to say that if Gamabunta fights him, he just straight up wins, my guy is very VERY skilled

 

[Epiccheev]

It took Naruto a few seconds to turn a pain clone into a frog statue, channeling enough nature chakra to turn EC into one would likely take hours.

 

[Nonynho]

Maybe in terms of values, but as for scaling, I don't think so. Rover tanked an attack that is superior to another attack that pulverized pre-molt EC. Pre-molt EC scales a good bit over that value due to statements.

As for Bunta using a sword, the attack Rover tanked to scale to this value used cutting attacks, so I don't think that changes anything. I don't think Bunta will be much of a threat to Rover. He and the 3 toads get vaporized pretty quickly.

Besides skill, Gamabunta naturally fights with Natural Chakra/Nature Energy, so there is indeed a likelyhood for Rover to become a toad statue, no joke
And his oil makes Rover's mobility diminish quite a bunch too, so...

 

[Nonynho]

It took Naruto a few seconds to turn a pain clone into a frog statue, channeling enough nature chakra to turn EC into one would likely take hours.

And is OoC for Minato to try this

 

[DavidTPPM]

Maybe in terms of values, but as for scaling, I don't think so. Rover tanked an attack that is superior to another attack that pulverized pre-molt EC. Pre-molt EC scales a good bit over that value due to statements.

Idk if that's something we can accurately compare ngl.
Gamas scaling with a sword is slicing Shukakus arm clean off with him having comparable durability to someone who tanked a 15-18 teraton attack with minor injuries. With his base stats without a blade already being relative to the character.

So I think he should still be more than capable of damaging Rover with a sword.

As for Bunta using a sword, the attack Rover tanked to scale to this value used cutting attacks, so I don't think that changes anything.

Not really the same thing. Especially in terms of values since the durability doesn't just come from Bomb but also Bang who didn't use cutting attacks.

I don't think Bunta will be much of a threat to Rover. He and the 3 toads get vaporized pretty quickly.

Idk. The toads should be comparable to Manda who only had light burns from a point blank attack that vaporized everything in a 10km range. (yes Manda died but that seems more due to the force and internal damage since it's skin seemed pretty much fine)
Plus again, Gamabunta can redirect his aim by restricting its head or block the attacks with water style. Even regular non senjutsu enhanced water style can already completely negate the heat of a relative fire style and even kid Sasuke could vaporize rocks with his fire.
Plus if Gama covers Rover in oil it risks burning itself alive.

Like I said the toads are no pushovers. They have solid stats, skill, and even movesets and weapons.

 

[Epiccheev]

Manda who only had light burns from a point blank attack that vaporized everything in a 10km range. (yes Manda died but that seems more due to the force and internal damage since it's skin seemed pretty much fine)

Nah, Denji also survived a nuclear punch and only had light burns on his carapace other than getting his lower half blown off, but they still won't let me scale him to nuke level heat resist.
So just out of spite i won't allow this either.

But yeah, i do think Gamabunta can beat Rover. He just outskills and outsmarts the monster. Hell, he could even tame him, considering it will listen to those stronger than him.

The only thing to solve is if Minato has a good way to deal with EC for good or if it will just keep molting until it becomes unmanageable

 

[karo_senpaii]

Can't minato just barrier Ec ass and leave him there for a while?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

What's stopping Minato from sealing them? The Four Symbols Seal was practically designed to be used against enemies like them.

 

[Arcker123]

Can't minato just barrier Ec ass and leave him there for a while?

I don't think Minato can on his own maintain a barrier for like a day straight or sum.

Also, Minato should just be able to seal them both for the W so I'll vote him

 

[karo_senpaii]

I don't think Minato can on his own maintain a barrier for like a day straight or sum.

Also, Minato should just be able to seal them both for the W so I'll vote him

No I mean long enough for him and gamabunta to take out rover then come back and deal with EC

 

[Arcker123]

5No I mean long enough for him and gamabunta to take out rover then come back and deal with EC

Thats fair. If it's like that he can just send a clone for that tbh

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Can Rover no-sell his own attacks? Can EC for that matter? I ask this because what's stopping Minato from putting FTG marks on both of them and just teleporting Rover's danmakku spam back onto himself? If he can do it to Kurama's Bijūdama who's several tiers above them then he can certainly do it to Rover's blasts much easier.

 

[Foriaa]

Minato likely seals both if his FTG is isn't already set up

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Can Rover no-sell his own attacks? Can EC for that matter?

Both monsters have durability that is greater than twice their offensive ability, so yes.
Rover in particular no-sells his durability value, only getting pushed back.

While Masked is here, they will vote for Minato FRA.
His ability to create a barrier in order to divide and conquer is a sound tactic, and his intelligence feats are nothing to scoff at.
If he is truly pressed, he can also resort to sealing, but Masked isn't sure which Sealing Jutsu he would use, so they are less confident about that part.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Talking about yourself in 3rd person like that is so cringe it almost makes me want to vote for the monster duo

 

[MinatoSparkle]

If he is truly pressed, he can also resort to sealing, but Masked isn't sure which Sealing Jutsu he would use, so they are less confident about that part.

What's stopping Minato from sealing them? The Four Symbols Seal was practically designed to be used against enemies like them.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Talking about yourself in 3rd person like that is so cringe

If it truly bothers you, Masked can stop.
They do it because they enjoy it, but not if it bothers others.

The Four Symbols Seal was practically designed to be used against enemies like them.

Masked is aware of that Jutsu, but they were unsure about the requirements for its use.
It is an option, and a particularly effective one.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Masked is aware of that Jutsu, but they were unsure about the requirements for its use.
It is an option, and a particularly effective one.

I mean to use an enhanced version of it against Kurama, he just did it while stabbed by Kurama, so seems like it just requires physical contact.

 

[Foriaa]

Minato just needs to likely touch someone for the eight-trigram seal to work

 

[Arcker123]

He's not touching Naruto (the target of the seal) so eh on touch being a requirement.

But still, he should seal GG