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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Be real Gojos performance was ass in Shibuya "Just because humans were there" isn't an excuse for him to stop Blitzing Jogo or overpowering and crushing him with brute force. Not saying Gojo was weak just pointing out it was funny how that was executed.
It's certainly a great demonstration of Gojo's lack of speed. I wonder how there is so much cognitive dissonance in jjk speed when its just so much telling the characters are generally close in speed with slight exceptions.
 
It's certainly a great demonstration of Gojo's lack of speed. I wonder how there is so much cognitive dissonance in jjk speed when its just so much telling the characters are generally close in speed with slight exceptions.
You call Sukuna Blitzing Jogo slight in speed?😭
 
Just saw someone tell me that humans have the right to kill anyone who comes to earth to seek refuge because we own the planet
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That is the question proposed by Cross right? Or at least who has ownership over their origin place. We are humans so we have the first and greatest say in what can be done on Earth, but then it becomes more interesting when he asks about space. Atp it's less about ownership and what feels right I think.
 
It's certainly a great demonstration of Gojo's lack of speed. I wonder how there is so much cognitive dissonance in jjk speed when its just so much telling the characters are generally close in speed with slight exceptions.
Blitzing is a luxury only granted to Sukuna, Gojo's Blue, Naoya, Naobito, Jogo, and Dabura.

I forgot the homeless man w/e
CT Burnout Gojo kept up with 20F sukuna while he was in his domain (something we accept as an amp and stated to be an amp), didn't get blitzed, with Sukuna stated that he moved well even while having RCT on full blast and Gojo surprising Sukuna with blue and outspeed Raga with blue as well.
Ya'll can't be dead ass if you think Gojo slow without blue
 
CT Burnout Gojo kept up with 20F sukuna while he was in his domain (something we accept as an amp and stated to be an amp), didn't get blitzed, with Sukuna stated that he moved well even while having RCT on full blast and Gojo surprising Sukuna with blue and outspeed Raga with blue as well.
Ya'll can't be dead ass if you think Gojo slow without blue
That's because of skill.
 
CT Burnout Gojo kept up with 20F sukuna while he was in his domain (something we accept as an amp and stated to be an amp), didn't get blitzed, with Sukuna stated that he moved well even while having RCT on full blast and Gojo surprising Sukuna with blue and outspeed Raga with blue as well.
Ya'll can't be dead ass if you think Gojo slow without blue
I'm saying they're generally close in speed with slight exceptions. We can accept domain as a speed amp, doesn't mean it's noticeable by feats and keeping up with Sukuna kinda proves that. Blue is the exception in speed scaling, its not Gojo's regular combat speed so idk how its relevant in your point for Gojo's combat speed.

Arkenis: "Gojo's subsonic (Stuggled with Jogo, couldn't hit Mahito), Supersonic with Supersonic+ reactions blue (kept up with 20F sukuna). Dabura's MFTL and can fly like superman tho"
There's nothing explaining why Gojo didn't blitz Jogo and Mahito if he's fast enough to keep up with 20f Sukuna while even 15f Sukuna can blitz Jogo.
 
Be real Gojos performance was ass in Shibuya "Just because humans were there" isn't an excuse for him to stop Blitzing Jogo or overpowering and crushing him with brute force. Not saying Gojo was weak just pointing out it was funny how that was executed.
You're not wrong. After re-looking it over, Gojo seemed to be acting kinda psychotic in his fight against the curses; he was feeling himself too much and went into his "Honored One" state where he just wants to establish his dominance.

Then, those IT cursed humans come and Gojo does his 0.2 sec domain that brings it back to him being "sensibly nerfed"
  • He calms down and remembers that he wants to protect the innocent civilians over flexing. If he tried to move faster or use blue, there's the chance some bystanders could get unnecessarily harmed or killed (being pulled by blue at such speeds, grazed by Gojo at those speeds). He's not a Zenin!
  • The O.2 sec domain expansion was possibly tougher and more difficult to complete compared to his standard DE and left him a bit more drained
  • Those IT cursed humans are like the curse equivalent of mind controlled zombies, in that they were made into mindless monsters at no fault of their own. Gojo's huffing at the end was also done out of some guilt and grief as he possibly viewed it as killing some innocent victims of circumstance
 
That's because of skill.
Skill lets him keep up with, block, and not get blitzed? Skill alone isn't gonna match up someone quote unquote "below Jogo and mahito (3F negs Mahito and 15F blitzes jogo btw while playing around)" to at least a blitz tier above (20F above 15F)
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I'm saying they're generally close in speed with slight exceptions. We can accept domain as a speed amp, doesn't mean it's noticeable by feats and keeping up with Sukuna kinda proves that. Blue is the exception in speed scaling, its not Gojo's regular combat speed so idk how its relevant in your point for Gojo's combat speed.
if you'r saying you agree they're generally close in combat speed, then Gojo can't be vastly slower without blue
There's nothing explaining why Gojo didn't blitz Jogo and Mahito if he's fast enough to keep up with 20f Sukuna while even 15f Sukuna can blitz Jogo.
There's nothing explaining why Naoya couldn't blitz maki when he blitzed Yuji who kept up with base Yuta
 
It's called Plot induced Stupidity
Aka "I don't like how this messes with my scaling thus PIS"

if you'r saying you agree they're generally close in combat speed, then Gojo can't be vastly slower without blue
What are you even disagreeing with? Who said vastly?

There's nothing explaining why Naoya couldn't blitz maki when he blitzed Yuji who kept up with base Yuta
Maki's faster and was weak during their fight. Idk what your point even is now but you clearly are just arguing agenda.
 
Aka "I don't like how this messes with my scaling thus PIS"
PIS is a well known trope in fiction and a thing accepted on this wiki, just cuz YOU think the excuse sucks doesn't mean anything cuz it's a working excuse
What are you even disagreeing with? Who said vastly?
I adadmently disagree that Sukuna is so much faster than Gojo without his blue speed.
Being unable to hit people Sukuna blitzes IS vastly slower, I don't know what you don't get
 
PIS is a well known trope in fiction and a thing accepted on this wiki, just cuz YOU think the excuse sucks doesn't mean anything cuz it's a working excuse
Long as you understand its an excuse then there's nothing to argue about.

I adadmently disagree that Sukuna is so much faster than Gojo without his blue speed.
Being unable to people Sukuna blitzes IS vastly slower, I don't know what you don't get
I never argued Sukuna was so much faster. You're lost man, idk if this was some other argument or what but I said everyone is close in speed besides slight exceptions.
 
3F sukuna negs Mahito and scares him senseless, Jogo's stronger, faster, and WOG says 5F Sukuna would have a high diff fight, Gojo (no blue) can't either, 15F blitzes, 20F is much stronger and faster, CTless Gojo can keep up.
Oh yeah, gojo's feats of not hitting Mahito and Jogo 100% apply, he must have Goku level skill to be able to fight bro, Sukuna's so cool that he gets blitz tiers upon blitz tiers faster unlike that bum Gojo. 15F washes Shibuya Gojo!1!1!
 
I can't believe I have to explain this, but no, what I said does not imply Gojo is vastly slower or that Sukuna is much faster, you're reading into that and looking delusional. I then said everyone's close in speed with slight exceptions. Gojo can be slower than Sukuna, and still keep up with Sukuna. Stop making shit about powerscaling for once and you'd understand this.
 


日本とシムリアンの決闘が確定。
The duel between Japan and the Shimurian has been decided.

舞台は人外魔境、新宿。
The stage is Shinjuku, a demonic realm beyond human limits.

難航する最高戦力・虎杖悠仁の捜索。
The search for the greatest fighting force, Yuji Itadori, proves difficult.

両面宿儺以来の特級事案:ダブラ・カラバ。
A special-grade threat not seen since Ryomen Sukuna: Dabura Karaba.

暴力の頂点。最強ゆえの孤高の戦士。
The pinnacle of violence. A lone warrior, isolated by his overwhelming strength.

これに対抗するため、日本が投下する全権の虎の娘。
To counter this, Japan deploys its trump card."

あらゆる事象への適応。最強の防壁。
Adaptation to all phenomena. The ultimate shield.

宇宙最強は誰だ。
Who is the strongest in the universe?
 
I can't believe I have to explain this, but no, what I said does not imply Gojo is vastly slower or that Sukuna is much faster, you're reading into that and looking delusional. I then said everyone's close in speed with slight exceptions. Gojo can be slower than Sukuna, and still keep up with Sukuna. Stop making shit about powerscaling for once and you'd understand this.
Bro says this on THE powerscaling site.
If I didn't want to make things Powerscaling, I wouldn't be here.
 


日本とシムリアンの決闘が確定。
The duel between Japan and the Shimurian has been decided.

舞台は人外魔境、新宿。
The stage is Shinjuku, a demonic realm beyond human limits.

難航する最高戦力・虎杖悠仁の捜索。
The search for the greatest fighting force, Yuji Itadori, proves difficult.

両面宿儺以来の特級事案:ダブラ・カラバ。
A special-grade threat not seen since Ryomen Sukuna: Dabura Karaba.

暴力の頂点。最強ゆえの孤高の戦士。
The pinnacle of violence. A lone warrior, isolated by his overwhelming strength.

これに対抗するため、日本が投下する全権の虎の娘。
To counter this, Japan deploys its trump card."

あらゆる事象への適応。最強の防壁。
Adaptation to all phenomena. The ultimate shield.

宇宙最強は誰だ。
Who is the strongest in the universe?

Here few people still downplaying Yuji like he wasn't compared to Dabura 😴
 
He doesn't need to. Not everything is about you go and beat others up.
It isn’t, but you’re wondering why people aren’t talking about him in the same sense as Dabura, and that’s the reason. If Dabura was only compared to Sukuna and did nothing visually impressive, he wouldn’t be seen as strong as he is.
 
Gojo can be slower than Sukuna, and still keep up with Sukuna.
The whole time during that fight, they were comparable in every single way (besides Sukuna's BIQ), fighting at comparable speeds, firing Domains at the exact same time with the only time they didn't Sukuna just barely lagged behind, CT Burnout Gojo is able to fight domain amped sukuna, and Gojo was able to keep up in a 2v1 with Raga and Sukuna.
No way Gojo's in anyway slower than Sukuna without blue
 
you straight up said Yuji did nothing like a page ago. No one sees that and thinks, "Yeah, he thinks yuji's strong"
He did almost nothing on page, but the story portrays him to be someone like Gojo. In comparison to Dabura, who’s best stuff comes from his feats against Mahoraga, Yuji’s strength is more about his skill with Shrine and his years of experience.
 
No way you read what I said and then decided “Nah he thinks Yuji is weak.”
  • You know even without feats it would put him on the same level despite if you argue he would lose to them that doesn't mean he doesnt scale to them
  • His dismantle range surpasses whatever Sukuna & Gojo has fired in their entire life
  • On top of that you also him dismantling Mahito along with some part of Shibuya constructed in soul realm or whatever you call it without lifting a finger. You should know Sukuna has never shown this level of mastery on his CT. I mean he did fired some slashes against Kusakabe but pretty sure without hand signs it's not easy to fire many attacks and also it's power would drastically reduce
  • Also I'd like to point out his body is immortal and Young and had statements to reach Gojo and Sukuna level potential it's really just hate at this point of people really thinking he is not on their level if not Stronger.
  • Not to mention even after witnessing Dabura vs Maho fight he is still confident he can fight Dabura if needed. I don't like self proclaimed confidence scaling but it is just a supporting stuff however you can take it.
Seems like some people just can't digest he is on Sukuna or Gojo level that's all. It doesn't matter if he wins or loses the fights it's clear cut physically he is no inferior to either of them.
 
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He did almost nothing on page, but the story portrays him to be someone like Gojo. In comparison to Dabura, who’s best stuff comes from his feats against Mahoraga, Yuji’s strength is more about his skill with Shrine and his years of experience.
Bro is bringing up skill gap for Yuji when his main Job is a brute force and perfect vessel to hold Sukuna.
 
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