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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

If Moria took the shadow of someone that had Haki and put it into a corpse, would that zombie be able to use the Haki from the owner of the shadow?
No... It is only through the will of the shadow that will be able to utilizes haki

As in Sanji could use obs Haki in Nami's body but Nami could not... So their own shadow/soul would need to be able to use haki


Wait... I read that incorrectly, then yes...
Franky: But those zombies... The body is moving,
but it's not like the dead coming back to life.

Brook: Correct...
Their personality and fighting prowess belong to the owner of the SHADOW.
But the zombie's physical power depends on the mario's musculature.
The stronger the body and the stronger the shadow,
the stronger the zombie soldier their combination will create.
That is why Moria seeks the shadows of bountied pirates.
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Haki <-> Spirit = personality/identity which is usually connected/binded with one's soul/life

Tho the only thing I'm confused about is... Who's personalities are these..?
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Maybe because the shadow is a second soul, the personality isn't from one's spirit but instead from one's physical mannerism 🤔
Franky: What does that mean?!

Brook: A man's "shadow" follows its owner at all times and places. It is a "soul" of sorts.
The shadow you cast, by nature,
spends your entire life, from birth until death,
at your side, obedient and unmoving, your other "soul."
Who should this great large man who takes your shadow and bends it to his own will be,
but the Seven Armed Sea, Gecko Moria!!!
With his "Kage Kage Fruit" powers!!
Meaning they wouldn't be capable of using haki? Since the will of their spirit is still within the original body and not like Trafalgar Law's one which directly switches their spirit, not their "soul" or second soul in the case of the shadow
ローの"オペオペの実"の能力で精神と肉体が入れ替わってしまった!!

Law's “Ope Ope no Mi” ability has swapped their spirits with their bodies!
【シャンブルズ】
''ROOM''空間内にある二つの物体や精神の位置を入れ替える。自分と遠方の物体で“シャンブルズ、を行えば、ままるで瞬間移動の様に空間を移動可能。
【Shambles】
Swaps the positions of two objects or spirits within the ‘'ROOM’' space. Performing Shambles between yourself and a distant object allows you to move through space as if teleporting.
精神 = spirit

So lowkey it's kinda unknown, because a shadow's soul might not have its spirit connected to it, which is where their Will comes from and is then turned to Haki
 
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Heres the thread. New formula has been accepted but no CGM has evaluated my calc to replace the old worldwide shaking calc that used KE.
I mean... There's soo much going on, it seems like everything is all over the place to correctly evaluate from staff, not gonna lie

But yee 🐵

Should've made it less cluttered, but it's still somewhat fine tho, just got to wait patiently for someone to want to evaluate it if they are willing


Yee it's kinda hard to get input, the only other way is to ask some that's reliable and willing to help

After my studies, I will try making new CRTs for op, everything is soo outdated it's insane
 
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I mean... There's soo much going on, it seems like everything is all over the place to correctly evaluate from staff, not gonna lie

But yee 🐵

Should've made it less cluttered, but it's still somewhat fine tho, just got to wait patiently for someone to want to evaluate it if they are willing


Yee it's kinda hard to get input, the only other way is to ask some that's reliable and willing to help

After my studies, I will try making new CRTs for op, everything is soo outdated it's insane
It's just sad to see the verse in such a sorry state for such a long time and I know the CGMs do what they can while also balancing their own life and stuff.

Just when we start to get some momentum for solving some of these problems, we get stonewalled.
 
and I know the CGMs do what they can while also balancing their own life and stuff.
its more so that most staff just don't wanna get involved in op threads, which I can understand why
Just when we start to get some momentum for solving some of these problems, we get stonewalled.
Yee but it's better to just keep on going until it gets accepted... Though it'll need more input

The more straightforward and concise the thread is, the easier it will be to finish threads and get staff input. Just speak monkey and gg 😴👍 🦧
 
After my studies, I will try making new CRTs for op, everything is soo outdated it's insane
I will be eagerly waiting for Oda to finish OP in the next 5 years, new CRTs to finish in the next 10 years, and then another 5 years to be evaluated.

Hopefully I'll still be alive by then but who knows.
 
I will be eagerly waiting for Oda to finish OP in the next 5 years, new CRTs to finish in the next 10 years, and then another 5 years to be evaluated.

Hopefully I'll still be alive by then but who knows.
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ggs

But no, I'll finish it by myself!!
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Too bad I'm just a monkey tho, me no problem from human problems
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🙈
 
dont look twice
 
Im not entirely sure but I believe Burgess' profile is outdated. Well, more than everyone else in the verse at least.
Correct,he was never updated from when Onigashima related stuff was removed,when tier 5 was changed from a possibly into an Outright Tier 5,and never got updated to the Blackbeard calc scaling chain. So he's like 3 layers into outdated.
 
Correct,he was never updated from when Onigashima related stuff was removed,when tier 5 was changed from a possibly into an Outright Tier 5,and never got updated to the Blackbeard calc scaling chain. So he's like 3 layers into outdated.
Hoooolllllyyyy. We need to give Burgess some love ASAP.
 
darn...
what about 6-B Zoro and Sanji?
Do it... you know you want to...
 
Do it... you know you want to...
skillslop merchant...
 
(Your calcs are reasonable enough to use from what I've seen, but just being honest) people who don't calc think all calcs are reasonable enough to use
In my experience its the opposite. It seems like a majority of powerscalers just refuse calcs of any kind, regardless of their validity and consistency. If an island was destroyed, its island level; if a continent was destroyed, its continent level. No other kind of nuance or complexity at work.
 
Is Conqueror's Haki Coating going to be added to the durability section? Garp stated that Rocks was guarding himself with ACoC and that their damage wasn't going through.
 
Is Conqueror's Haki Coating going to be added to the durability section? Garp stated that Rocks was guarding himself with ACoC and that their damage wasn't going through.
Hey EC, how are you scaling the ACoC infusion? I see you are using a 4x multiplier, is that correct? What is that based on.
 
Hey EC, how are you scaling the ACoC infusion? I see you are using a 4x multiplier, is that correct? What is that based on.
I'm just finding the difference in the current profile and applying it with the new proposed value.

I don't know the exact justification for that number nor what thread it got accepted in.

1,507/188.362 = ~8

I'm just applying the difference to the new 5.307 Zettaton value.
 
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