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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

"Ah yes you are the FIRST TIME I have wanted to try to prove myself, I won't hold back on you, I'll test your marrow and bone to show which is better my sorcery or your body"
Heavily nerfed Sukuna lol you and some of the Maki glazers here not proving why Sukuna whom Yuji and Yuta fought had same CE Output as the one Maki fought just because he was trying.
Elde: Weaker than Yuji, only applies to durability at best, no direct scaling, where's the feats man literal tanking of black flesh and cleave
Funnily enough you still proved my point about she only having Durability feat nothing more
 
Heavily nerfed Sukuna lol you and some of the Maki glazers here not proving why Sukuna whom Yuji and Yuta fought had same CE Output as the one Maki fought just because he was trying.
Not being continuously nerfed by soul punches, not having to sustain HWB vs sustaining his heart (something we know doesn't matter) and trying his hardest hmmmmmmm
 
Funnily enough you still proved my point about she only having Durability feat nothing more
Yeah when you read a story only by feats you'll think all your points are proven.

If she was actually “just fine,” she would’ve been there with Todo, Yuji, Yuta, and Hana during the final stretch of the fight. The fact that she wasn’t says enough.
Or its the fact Sukuna just launched a domain and fire arrow so they decided to not have anyone else out there since people can't keep using simple domain against Sukuna to protect her, a guy who can use domain multiple times and was going to do it again and did. Or it could be Maki not being as useful due to her not being swappable with Boogie woogie. Its very simple, something you guys act like isn't happening, Gege's writing a story, not a powerscalers dream and just didn't want the fight to involve Maki anymore.
 
Not being continuously nerfed by soul punches, not having to sustain HWB vs sustaining his heart (something we know doesn't matter) and trying his hardest hmmmmmmm
Losing two of his hands and you already conceding he got nerfed by Soul punches and JL. So obviously not the same. She was fighting a half dead guy
Yeah when you read a story only by feats you'll think all your points are proven.
Bring me the supposed statements then lol
 
You forgot Maki got cooked by 3rd BF and dismantle while Yuji was fighting 5BF amped Sukuna with higher output.
Son. Sukuna gets weaker with every punch Yuji throws that's something straight up said to us, right after Sukuna hits the fourth black flash on Choso, Sukuna gets his eyes glued on Larue, he hit a black flash on him weakening him further and awakening. Then he starts stacking black flashes and even after hitting 5 BLACK FLASHES ON SUKUNA and multiple other punches that weakened him he was still getting physically outscaled and took more damage from a singular cleave than maki from multiple. You are selectively ignoring stuff for your own agenda?
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Sukuna was much weaker against awakened Yuji because he got hit with multiple black flashes, Sukuna even describes it as Yuji doing the same thing he did with "patchface"/Mahito which, if you remember, his black flashes were so effective on Mahito it quite literally one shotted him while Mahito himself was twice as strong as him or for a better example made Mahito go from hitting a black flash and being amped to immediatly weakened below what he was before with a singular black flash. If you genuinely can't get how much weaker Yuji was making him by hitting BLACK FLASHES CONSTANTLY, you are being straight up ignorant.

Not to mention you acting like after DE awakened Yuji also stopped healing and shown exhaustion from long fight.
Thank god most of my showings of yuji getting dogwalked are before he uses his domain then? This is useless. Unless you mean after Sukuna's DE which at that case you are just lying instead. Cause Sukuna straight up says he was sharpening up (alongside the fact that he healed his body cuts from shrine):
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Yuta in Gojo's body had struggle to use limitless CT
Be so fr. Do you think Yuta was weaker than he was in the original body that he was in his own lol? And how does struggling to use the technique means he's struggling to use CE? He was still outputting the best CE he could. Yuta in Gojo's body is AT LEAST yuta level physically and he was still getting dogwalked.

still Sukuna never had statement for weaker than in Maki's fight there
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Refrain to the above point.

Yuji also took a BF and unfinished from 4BF amped Sukuna.
You mean from the sukuna that was weakened from everything beforehand, yuji's punches, got HOLLOW PURPLE'D IN THE FACE, burnt by Jacob's ladder etc? That Sukuna? Think for a bit man.

Maki got cooked by first BF and was out of the picture for an chapter.
Which Sukuna calls impressive. Yuji was out for a chapter after getting cleaved, Maki came back in 3 pages. I can do the same thing man.

3BF it clearly shown to weakened or was blocked by SSK if you actually see the falling angle of her.
Are you actually serious, you're now just making up stuff.
 
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Or its the fact Sukuna just launched a domain and fire arrow so they decided to not have anyone else out there since people can't keep using simple domain against Sukuna to protect her, a guy who can use domain multiple times and was going to do it again and did. Or it could be Maki not being as useful due to her not being swappable with Boogie woogie. Its very simple, something you guys act like isn't happening, Gege's writing a story, not a powerscalers dream and just didn't want the fight to involve Maki anymore.
Allat of headcanons. Maki would’ve been useful there no matter what, Boogie Woogie or not. The squad was desperate as hell at that point, they literally sent Hana out there knowing she has zero protection against domains.

So what, they’re fine risking Hana but suddenly super cautious about Maki?
 
A single Dismantle was enough to take Maki out of the fight. Meanwhile, after his awakening, Yuji tanked over a dozen of them to the point that even Sukuna was stunned watching him push through. And that’s not even considering that Yuji had already been running on fumes for a while.
Larp Larp Larp Larp

1. She still hadn't healed from the previous black flash and cleave that Sukuna hit her with
2. She had just got hit by a Black Flash before Sukuna used dismantles
3.
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The same thing literally happened to Yuji, though and it still didn’t take him out.
Yuji never got by a singular Black Flash until the very end where sukuna was basically on a wheelchair, got hollow purple'd and damaged by ladder etc etc. Sukuna was weakened to hell and back

She already healed from that Black Flash, so that’s not really an excuse.
No she hadn't, W headcanon tho. Her healing is literally slow, she doesn't have RCT. She said she needed 5 minutes just to heal from CURSE NAOYA's attacks. Do you think a black flash from Sukuna is below curse naoya?

If she was actually “just fine,” she would’ve been there with Todo, Yuji, Yuta, and Hana during the final stretch of the fight. The fact that she wasn’t says enough.
Maki can't use anti domain stuff nor RCT. She had to be protected by miwa from malevolent shrine.
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If you genuinely think it's wise for a weakened, hit by 2 black flashes Maki who needs 5 minutes to heal from CURSE NAOYA ATTACKS, to stay near a Sukuna that regained his domain and technique even though what Hakari just pointed out there, I don't know what to tell you. Might I remind you that Yuji would have lost if he didn't unlock the domain? Sukuna literally says he wasn't a threat to his life unless his technique landed which Yuji was being unable to because Sukuna was faster.
 
Larp Larp Larp Larp

1. She still hadn't healed from the previous black flash and cleave that Sukuna hit her with
2. She had just got hit by a Black Flash before Sukuna used dismantles
3.
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Yuji never got by a singular Black Flash until the very end where sukuna was basically on a wheelchair, got hollow purple'd and damaged by ladder etc etc. Sukuna was weakened to hell and back


No she hadn't, W headcanon tho. Her healing is literally slow, she doesn't have RCT. She said she needed 5 minutes just to heal from CURSE NAOYA's attacks. Do you think a black flash from Sukuna is below curse naoya?


Maki can't use anti domain stuff nor RCT. She had to be protected by miwa from malevolent shrine.
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If you genuinely think it's wise for a weakened, hit by 2 black flashes Maki who needs 5 minutes to heal from CURSE NAOYA ATTACKS, to stay near a Sukuna that regained his domain and technique even though what Hakari just pointed out there, I don't know what to tell you. Might I remind you that Yuji would have lost if he didn't unlock the domain? Sukuna literally says he wasn't a threat to his life unless his technique landed which Yuji was being unable to because Sukuna was faster.
Whew, that’s a whole lot of nothing
 
Allat of headcanons. Maki would’ve been useful there no matter what, Boogie Woogie or not. The squad was desperate as hell at that point, they literally sent Hana out there knowing she has zero protection against domains.
Its headcanon either way.

So what, they’re fine risking Hana but suddenly super cautious about Maki?
Yes they are. Yuta quite literally calls it a gamble to have her be the all or nothing finishing blow because Sukuna won't expect it.
Maki's presence is simply hindered there now since Todo can't swap Yuji with her or himself. Plus once Sukuna gets another chance to domain Miwa won't be able to come in again.
 
Whew, that’s a whole lot of nothing
Nice answer, is that gonna support your headcanon? Mr. "Maki healed from the first black flash from RYOMEN SUKUNA in like 2 minutes" somehow even tho she takes 5 minutes to heal from curse naoya.

Or is that gonna support your "she got taken out by a regular dismantle" even tho she got hit by TWO (2) black flashes beforehand and couldn't heal them, AS SHE DOESN'T HAVE RCT.
 
I'm astonished man. Black flash is unironically being dismissed as a great indicating for Maki's power because Sukuna may have been in better condition after the Maki fight. We're lost
 
I'm astonished man. Black flash is unironically being dismissed as a great indicating for power because Sukuna may have been in better condition after the Maki fight. We're lost
We are putting "taking dismantles without fatal wounds" and being ripped apart by cleaves durability feat over taking black flashes and not being ripped apart by cleaves. This community's illiteracy issue grows by the second.
 
It is interesting how no one attacked the fact that Sukuna straight up actually only tries at least to some capacity against Maki, with Yuta's name being right there by the way.
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The previous chapter was also foreshadowing Sukuna actually going more serious since the chapter right before this one ended on this panel:
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Nice answer, is that gonna support your headcanon? Mr. "Maki healed from the first black flash from RYOMEN SUKUNA in like 2 minutes" somehow even tho she takes 5 minutes to heal from curse naoya.
Headcanon? We don’t actually know how long it took her to recover. For all we know, it could’ve been assisted by Shoko using RCT.
The main point is this: Yuji tanked a Black Flash to the shoulder and kept fighting. Maki didn’t.


Or is that gonna support your "she got taken out by a regular dismantle" even tho she got hit by TWO (2) black flashes beforehand and couldn't heal them, AS SHE DOESN'T HAVE RCT.
Yeah, I already acknowledged that mistake, and I brought up the Black Flashes right after in my reply to Arkenis. That doesn’t really change the conclusion though.
Maki was taken out of the fight after the Black Flash + Dismantle combo. Yuji wasn’t.

Yes they are. Yuta quite literally calls it a gamble to have her be the all or nothing finishing blow because Sukuna won't expect it.
Maki's presence is simply hindered there now since Todo can't swap Yuji with her or himself. Plus once Sukuna gets another chance to domain Miwa won't be able to come in again.
Yeah, and I’m sure Maki was totally fine just sitting in the back relaxing while everyone else risked their lives, right?
 
Yeah, and I’m sure Maki was totally fine just sitting in the back relaxing while everyone else risked their lives, right?
Yeah. Her time to fight was over. Gege wrote her for this one major moment to be the true extent of Sukuna's enthrallment by sorcerers after Gojo. After that, its last minute, bet it all on random shit and hope they win tactics like Todo, Yujo, Hana, and Nobara. Gege didn't want the fights to keep being a jumping of Sukuna, that's why people start getting removed. Miguel and Larue? Out in a chapter. Choso and Maki? Out in a chapter. Todo? removed and recenters Sukuna into a 1v1 with Yuta then Yuji.
 
Yeah. Her time to fight was over. Gege wrote her for this one major moment to be the true extent of Sukuna's enthrallment by sorcerers after Gojo. After that, its last minute, bet it all on random shit and hope they win tactics like Todo, Yujo, Hana, and Nobara. Gege didn't want the fights to keep being a jumping of Sukuna, that's why people start getting removed. Miguel and Larue? Out in a chapter. Choso and Maki? Out in a chapter. Todo? removed and recenters Sukuna into a 1v1 with Yuta then Yuji.
So your counter-argument to “Maki was too beat up to keep fighting” is basically “Gege just didn’t want her to”?
That’s just appealing to author intent instead of what actually happened in the fight. But aight, i can't say nothing that, shieeet.
 
Headcanon? We don’t actually know how long it took her to recover.
For how long do you think Kukasabe and Miguel distracted Sukuna...?

For all we know, it could’ve been assisted by Shoko using RCT.
Ah yes and she convinently left the cleave damage on her face for some reason and just healed the black flash?
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Again there's a reason Hakari says this:
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They can't rely on Shoko just healing them constantly.

The main point is this: Yuji tanked a Black Flash to the shoulder and kept fighting. Maki didn’t.
Quoting myself:
Yuji never got by a singular Black Flash until the very end where sukuna was basically on a wheelchair, got hollow purple'd and damaged by ladder etc etc. Sukuna was weakened to hell and back
Sukuna was much weaker against awakened Yuji because he got hit with multiple black flashes, Sukuna even describes it as Yuji doing the same thing he did with "patchface"/Mahito which, if you remember, his black flashes were so effective on Mahito it quite literally one shotted him while Mahito himself was twice as strong as him or for a better example made Mahito go from hitting a black flash and being amped to immediatly weakened below what he was before with a singular black flash. If you genuinely can't get how much weaker Yuji was making him by hitting BLACK FLASHES CONSTANTLY, you are being straight up ignorant.
 
So your counter-argument to “Maki was too beat up to keep fighting” is basically “Gege just didn’t want her to”?
That’s just appealing to author intent instead of what actually happened in the fight. But aight, i can't say nothing that, shieeet.
This isn't a counter argument, its what happens in the manga. Why would I not appeal to the authors intent? He deliberately started removing people after Maki's fight with Sukuna.

And I think some of you are just willingly ignoring the fights' context to an extent. Yuji's hits, whether its bf or not, inherently drop Sukuna's output. He can't fight Yuji like he could against Maki, unhindered by the attacks and constantly ramping up his output. Choso makes this apparent, Sukuna can keep hitting all the bf he wants, it won't matter because if Yuji's around, he can always weaken his output making the bf amps pointless. So when Maki's getting ragdolled by Sukuna, that's the real output of Sukuna unhindered by soul punches, that's Sukuna genuinely trying not trying but being weakened.
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For how long do you think Kukasabe and Miguel distracted Sukuna...?
I don’t know and neither do you.

Ah yes and she convinently left the cleave damage on her face for some reason and just healed the black flash?
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Again there's a reason Hakari says this:
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They can't rely on Shoko just healing them constantly.
That’s literally just blood 😭 And even if her face was still damaged, healing her stomach and hand would obviously be the priority. Those are the injuries that actually affect her ability to fight. She was needed on the battlefield.

Quoting myself:
Are you on crack? Sukuna hit Yuji with a Black Flash in 257. The Hollow Purple and Jacob’s Ladder happened much later in the fight.
 
Why we acting like Yuji wasn't out from those cleaves since Yuta's domain dropped till to the mall fight meanwhile Maki came back sooner only taking the Kusakabe and Miguel fight?
 
Why we acting like Yuji wasn't out from those cleaves since Yuta's domain dropped till to the mall fight meanwhile Maki came back sooner only taking the Kusakabe and Miguel fight?
That's a soul dismantle from Sukuna not normal cleave. I guess we can't expect Maki fans to read the manga properly
 
What are you talking about Yuji's page that shows Sukuna used a soul dismantle on Yuji in Yuta's domain?
 
Oh yeah we're cooked if you actually got that shit on page.
Feel free to go make a downgrade CRT if you feel like you know what you are talking about.
What are you talking about Yuji's page that shows Sukuna used a soul dismantle on Yuji in Yuta's domain?
In Megumis inner domain not Yuta's domain
 
Staff agrees with bs all the time, Idk why ya say this shit like God preordained it
I like how you and Bigopp are calling others bs when they disagree with you but when others calls you out it seems like illiteracy? Irony
Anyway I'm done if you people disagree with Sukuna not damaging with Soul Dismantle of his own feel free to make a downgrade CRT I'll address the issue there. I'm not continuing with your arguments here since you just want to prove he got cooked by normal cleave.
 
Feel free to go make a downgrade CRT if you feel like you know what you are talking about.
I read that shit and it's deadass headcanon. You don't prove Sukuna fired it at his soul, you just dropped a panel of Yuji being in the innate domain and then show the scan of both Yuji and Yuta getting hit and call it soul dismantle. And your crt doesn't matter, we're not in a match lmao.
 
Anyway I'm done if you people disagree with Sukuna not damaging with Soul Dismantle of his own feel free to make a downgrade CRT I'll address the issue there. I'm not continuing with your arguments here since you just want to prove he got cooked by normal cleave.
Because the crt does not matter to our convo. Crts only matter to the pages, if you don't wanna prove that was actually directed at the soul then that's fine but you most definitely did not prove it in the crt.
 
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