can a physical object qualify for CM type 1?

[Voidnether]

YTSY verse actually has one of the conceptual combat even if CM type 1 as strict as that, Su Zhou vs the Five Torrents and Joshua Miracles, which are eating away predetermined concepts. So it is not really impossible.

But what I really mean is that a mere application of concept wouldn't really be enough as CM in itself really.

Well, Minecraft defines it way further with how the Named Binary Tag functions (which you know, the only thing preventing this is because Creative Mode is regarded as non-canon here) plus it's popular unlike YTSY in which unfortunately only powerscalers know about this which is why it would fit the category in the first place because like it's actually a very niche verse where absolutely no one barely knows about it in comparison to like ORV and LOTM, but I don't think LOTM would qualify for CM1 anymore if the standards were truly this strict

Atp it's so hard to hold back saying "yeah YTSY is a fanfiction verse bro" with every mentions that "well actually it qualifies for this standard, that standard and those standards and these standards" albeit not as bad as Blue & White (this is just terrible that comparing YTSY to this would make YTSY a saint as the only verse that only powerscalers know about it)

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

unlike YTSY in which unfortunately only powerscalers know about this

Atp it's so hard to hold back saying "yeah YTSY is a fanfiction verse bro" with every mentions that "well actually it qualifies for this standard, that standard and those standards and these standards" albeit not as bad as Blue & White (this is just terrible that comparing YTSY to this would make YTSY a saint as the only verse that only powerscalers know about it)

Slander, one of the best selling book in Qidian, btw, with 1,1 millions reccomendations. And actually have an actual good plot for an Xianxia besides Metaphysical wankery.
Calling it the verse only powerscaler knows is a disservice to the author.

Well, Minecraft defines it way further with how the Named Binary Tag functions (which you know, the only thing preventing this is because Creative Mode is regarded as non-canon here)

Doesn't binary tags already exist when the items was created?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Using concept shouldn't be considered CM to be honest, it was Conceptual Manipulation after all, not Concept usage.

In ideal world, Using concept /=/ manipulation of concept.

Using Fire shouldn't be considered Fire Manipulation. it was Fire Manipulation after all, not Fire usage🗣.

 

[Voidnether]

Slander, one of the best selling book in Qidian, btw, with 1,1 millions reccomendations. And actually have an actual good plot for an Xianxia besides Metaphysical wankery.
Calling it the verse only powerscaler knows is a disservice to the author.

1,1 million bots vs Reverend Insanity and LOTM with the mediatok larpers this is so much cinema

Doesn't binary tags already exist when the items was created?

The object itself, yes, but the concept, no, Viet said here that if the object existed before the concept, it wouldn't be an antifeat for CM

Would it be possible for a concept to be created after the object?

Basically if you have table as an object, then you created the concept of table but the table as an object obviously predates the concept of table, would this be an antifeat or not for CM? Given the object predates the concept, but well the object itself isn't a concept

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[Rakih_Elyan]

Using Fire shouldn't be considered Fire Manipulation. it was Fire Manipulation after all, not Fire usage🗣.

Impeccable logic, I concede

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Impeccable logic, I concede

Yours isn't any better. Tell us how u can command a concept without manipulating it...oh wait, "use" is a synonym of "manipulation"

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

1,1 million bots vs Reverend Insanity and LOTM with the mediatok larpers this is so much cinema

Yeah sure buddy, YTSY is still considered new and it is already have a Manhua. Also Qidian bots lmao, tell me you know Chinese webnovels community without telling me

The object itself, yes, but the concept, no, Viet said here that if the object existed before the concept, it wouldn't be an antifeat for CM

Isn't the Tags itself bind the object, so any change to tags change the objects

Yours isn't any better. Tell us how u can command a concept without manipulating it

I said I conceded, I agree with you big dawg

 

[Voidnether]

I said I conceded, I agree with you big dawg

LOL

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I said I conceded, I agree with you big dawg

I thought u were joking. Mb

 

[SuperNova55555]

but I don't think LOTM would qualify for CM1 anymore if the standards were truly this strict

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah nah this is cooked
Mfw pointed to the astral world and descended type 3 concepts (sorry i mean platonic type 1 concepts just because they existed inside astral world) with no applications other than buying time ✌

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I mean, affecting another Type 1 Concept is type 1 CM lol.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Yeah nah this is cooked
Mfw pointed to the astral world and descended type 3 concepts (sorry i mean platonic type 1 concepts just because they existed inside astral world) with no applications other than buying time ✌

So?

 

[Voidnether]

So?

How is this CM

 

[SuperNova55555]

How is this CM

He's literally punching the Platonic Forms

 

[Voidnether]

He's literally punching the Platonic Forms

So NPI then

 

[SuperNova55555]

So NPI then

Mf: Punches universal and causes derivative effects
You: NPI

 

[Voidnether]

Mf: Punches universal and causes derivative effects
You: NPI

NPI and domino effects bro

 

[SuperNova55555]

NPI and domino effects bro

Ok, so no character has CM then

 

[LazyDaoist]

Mf: Punches universal and causes derivative effects
You: NPI

How is that punching, he's pointing to it then activated his hax

 

[SuperNova55555]

How is that punching, he's pointing to it then activated his hax

Not literally punching

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Yours isn't any better. Tell us how u can command a concept without manipulating it...oh wait, "use" is a synonym of "manipulation"

Damn lol, how the hell did I not think of that? I guess I was too focused on separating conceptual alteration and conceptual enforcement, since conceptual enforcement does not always involve overwriting other concepts in order to impose a concept, like overwriting concepts that define existence itself in order to replace ( impose) them with concept of nothingness, effectively turning all of existence into nothingness as a state.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Bruh, enforcing stuff like laws or concepts is high-level stuff, higher than mere control/manipulation. They can be useful for removing things like immunity, etc.

reminds me of this

“Ah. Okay. More fundamentals. A Domain is a concept or aspect of existence that the Heaven must channel in absolute capacities. Think of it as major hardware components. Uh, implants, for the divine sheath that is your Heaven. It’s why each ontological build exhibits traits from each of its Domain–they are points of expressable symmetry to allow crossover between the Soul and reality. These are signified as sigils within a Heaven. Uh, view those as unified codifications for specific concepts that we can apply quickly in metaphysical formulae.”

Blank faces greeted her and she paused. She adapted the impromptu lecture to include their more tangible experiences. “Let us take Avo’s Haemokinesis. There is a central strand of repeating conceptual data in reality’s vast tapestry. It is blood. What the culture that created the Heaven understands to be blood, anyway. Regardless, this pattern is still connected to the rest of reality. The miracles arise when blood interfaces with the rest of existence to alter and modify the expression of the rules.”

“Like I’m reshaping reality in a limited area,” Avo said. “Or jacking into its structure to sequence new changes.”

“I… suppose you can view it that way. Yes.” The Agnos continued. “Now, the fact that a Domain must bridge with other aspects of existence is the entire reason why there are no single Domain Heavens. Two is required at the very least. And then one involved Domain must also exist in the Hell to serve as a countervailing tunnel for the tapestry rupturing entropy that is Rend. Haemokinesis allows you to move blood. Absolutely. Nothing can stop you from moving blood. This is a foundational truth within your subreality. And so, the number of patterns required to materialize the miracle, along with how many other patterns need to be suppressed, become parts of scope and scale–what determines how many thaums you require to see your canon solidified.”

 

[Mbpoops]

cm1 atoms

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

cm1 atoms

Every concept existence waifu belongs to me, down to their conceptual atoms. Even Supernova agrees Amanises belongs to me, all the way to your waifus

 

[SuperNova55555]

Even Supernova agrees Amanises belongs to me

She would literally torture people like you

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

She would literally torture people like you

match made in heaven

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

At least not the Demoness

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

She would literally torture people like you

 

[Le'garde273]

Honkai until very recently

yeah

"Imaginary is concept, imaginary being the very essence of the universe and all existence, therefor imaginary is exist omnipresentially and imaginary is essentially made everything that exist.

Therefor i exist, i made of imaginary, and lastly i exist as conceptual entity type 1 concept cause i made up and part of imaginary itself"

 

[Mbpoops]

"Imaginary is concept, imaginary being the very essence of the universe and all existence, therefor imaginary is exist omnipresentially and imaginary is essentially made everything that exist.

Therefor i exist, i made of imaginary, and lastly i exist as conceptual entity type 1 concept cause i made up and part of imaginary itself"

You aint heard of imaginary atoms?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Reverend Insanity

Spoken like someone who hasn't read Reverend Insanity or more accurately Daoist Master Gu.

RI doesn't have CM type 1 except for the Heaven itself.

 

[Voidnether]

Spoken like someone who hasn't read Reverend Insanity or more accurately Daoist Master Gu.

RI doesn't have CM type 1 except for the Heaven itself.

How tf does Reverend Insanity have CM1 lol

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

How tf does Reverend Insanity have CM1 lol

Laws and true Dao

 

[Robo432343]

energy cannot be cm 1 right

 

[Mbpoops]

energy cannot be cm 1 right

I mean… look at honkai lol

 

[SuperNova55555]

energy cannot be cm 1 right

Obviously not.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Obviously not.

it kinda depends on how a verse defines or portrays said energy

 

[Voidnether]

energy cannot be cm 1 right

Well Marvel can be

 

[Thermor]

energy cannot be cm 1 right

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