Quick upgrade for Wuwa

[AlipheeseXIV]

Alright, quick CRT here. This calc was recently accepted, along with this calc, so the relevant characters should be upgraded to tier 5, their LS should be changed to class P and their speed should be sub rela, simple enough. I have some other very minor things I'd like to fix up

• BFR resistance should be removed from the relevant characters (misunderstanding on my end there) same with NEP creation
• Cartethyia should have her keys removed because Fleurdelys is just a transformation
• Jiyan should have forcefield creation shown here, and his stamina should be changed to superhuman because he's a resonator
• Augusta's keys should be removed as it's just a powerup, her stamina should also be superhuman. She should be given electricity manip and her fusionism/fissionism should be limited
• Iuno should have air manip (literally how did we miss this Shiratio)
• Abby should have incorporeality since it's apart of Rover's frequency
• Cantarella's purification should be type 2 (not sure why a type was never denoted to her page)
• Rover should have power absorption for absorbing Dreamless's frequency which allowed him to gain access to his Havoc form
• Jinhsi's dragons should have duplication shown here, as well as paralysis inducement shown here and her limited power null should be changed to technology manip

Agree: Random-Helper323, WanderingGecko, Shiraito983, Lort15, LordGriffin1000, Celestial_Pegasus, DarkDragonMedeus

 

[WanderingGecko]

the relevant characters should be upgraded to tier 5 and their LS should be changed to class P

Who are these relevant characters? I don't see their names being mentioned in the calculation nor in this thread.

Asides the Necrostar scaling, I agree with the changes.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Who are these relevant characters? I don't see their names being mentioned in the calculation nor in this thread.

Asides the Necrostar scaling, I agree with the changes.

They don't have to be mentioned in this thread, this isn't about a scaling chain, nor is it required for the CRT

 

[WanderingGecko]

They don't have to be mentioned in this thread, this isn't about a scaling chain, nor is it required for the CRT

I assume the Necrostar black hole would only affect Shorekeeper as she’s the only one mentioned in the calculation, right? If so, count me in as agree.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Alright, quick CRT here. This calc was recently accepted, so the relevant characters should be upgraded to tier 5 and their LS should be changed to class P, simple enough.

If the calculation is accepted then this should be fine.

The other stuff sounds like it needs someone who knows the verse.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

If the calculation is accepted then this should be fine.

The other stuff sounds like it needs someone who knows the verse.

It's just very minor stuff, I don't really think they should need anyone. Not to mention aside from myself, I don't know anyone else who's a knowledgeable member? I also am the sole creator of all these profiles barring Cantarella, Iuno and Augusta, but I was present for and helped the people who made them create them. Shouldn't it be fine?

 

[Random-Helper323]

It's just very minor stuff, I don't really think they should need anyone. Not to mention aside from myself, I don't know anyone else who's a knowledgeable member? I also am the sole creator of all these profiles barring Cantarella, Iuno and Augusta, but I was present for and helped the people who made them create them. Shouldn't it be fine?

Can you add some citations I can understand first? Some of them have such citations, some have references to in-universe information and some have no evidence listed at all.

When presenting this kind of thing, it needs to be presented so someone who has never interacted with the verse can understand it. I literally don't know if Wuthering Waves is related to Wuthering Heights, and I even mix the two up. So I need information if I'm going to evaluate.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Can you add some citations I can understand first? Some of them have such citations, some have references to in-universe information and some have no evidence listed at all.

When presenting this kind of thing, it needs to be presented so someone who has never interacted with the verse can understand it. I literally don't know if Wuthering Waves is related to Wuthering Heights, and I even mix the two up. So I need information if I'm going to evaluate.

• BFR resistance is listed on the page here (it's not BFR resistance, I made a mistake in adding it)
• Same thing for NEP creation (I later made a QnA thread and was told about this)
• Cartethyia's key of Fleurdelys should not be a key, this was mentioned by another member since it's just a transformation. Same exact thing with Augusta, neither are "keys" they're just transformations/powerups (even more so for Augusta who has resistances that aren't any at all related to her 2nd key)
• Iuno is literally an aero resonator...

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Can you add some citations I can understand first? Some of them have such citations, some have references to in-universe information and some have no evidence listed at all.

When presenting this kind of thing, it needs to be presented so someone who has never interacted with the verse can understand it. I literally don't know if Wuthering Waves is related to Wuthering Heights, and I even mix the two up. So I need information if I'm going to evaluate.

Edit: Btw this calc here also got accepted recently, so I'll just slide it into the CRT. It's a pretty simple speed calc, hope you can give the okay on it as well

 

[Random-Helper323]

Edit: Btw this calc here also got accepted recently, so I'll just slide it into the CRT. It's a pretty simple speed calc, hope you can give the okay on it as well

Calculation is accepted, seems okay.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Calculation is accepted, seems okay.

What about the other stuff?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Cartethyia's key of Fleurdelys should not be a key, this was mentioned by another member since it's just a transformation. Same exact thing with Augusta, neither are "keys" they're just transformations/powerups (even more so for Augusta who has resistances that aren't any at all related to her 2nd key)

That's probably okay then.

Iuno is literally an aero resonator...

I have never heard of her or an aero resonator, and have never interacted with the entire verse. These things have to be explained so someone who doesn't know the verse can still understand it. Reading the Wiki it seems okay though.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

That's probably okay then.

I have never heard of her or an aero resonator, and have never interacted with the entire verse. These things have to be explained so someone who doesn't know the verse can still understand it. Reading the Wiki it seems okay though.

Sorry, aero is wind or air, an aero resonator means she's someone who can manipulate these things. A resonator is a person who can resonate with the essence of an object or state of matter, the physiology page goes more in depth about it. I appreciate the evaluation. I'll be sure to make it clearer moving forward

 

[Random-Helper323]

Sorry, aero is wind or air, an aero resonator means she's someone who can manipulate these things. A resonator is a person who can resonate with the essence of an object or state of matter, the physiology page goes more in depth about it.

The aero part I understood fine, but the resonator part requires either knowledge of the verse or for me to assume it means someone who manipulates that element.

I appreciate the evaluation. I'll be sure to make it clearer moving forward

It's okay. I'm trying to evaluate information about something I literally wouldn't recognise if I saw it, so it's a little difficult.

 

[MatterNerd]

Bump

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

The aero part I understood fine, but the resonator part requires either knowledge of the verse or for me to assume it means someone who manipulates that element.

Yes, that's what it means. Resonators are the obtainable playable characters of Wuthering Waves, and individuals with the ability to resonate with certain objects or elements and manipulate their frequencies. Taken from the wiki, every single character without fail can manipulate an element because that's apart of the game's system, think literally any other RPG game with an element system for it's combat mechanics.

It's okay. I'm trying to evaluate information about something I literally wouldn't recognise if I saw it, so it's a little difficult.

Yeah I understand, I respect you actually taking the time to do that. People seldom do, if there's something you don't understand or need more clarification on, lmk. Or is that everything?

 

[MatterNerd]

bump

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

snip

Is everything good?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Let me take a look soon, okay?

 

[Arkenis]

They don't have to be mentioned in this thread, this isn't about a scaling chain, nor is it required for the CRT

The issue is you mentioning the calc in this crt. If its not about the calcs scaling then its not needed in this crt since this is about other characters pna not the scaling.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Is there anything else to evaluate?

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Is there anything else to evaluate?

No, that's everything afaik

 

[Random-Helper323]

Okay, let's call in some staff. Remind me, which staff responded to the previous threads on this topic?

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Okay, let's call in some staff. Remind me, which staff responded to the previous threads on this topic?

Something like this shouldn't need more staff? It neither has to do with any major P&A's, nor any high tiers beyond 2A. Typically Celestial_Pegasus, Reiner04, Twilight-OP or Veitthai96 have responded to the previous CRT's

 

[Shiraito983]

agree

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Bump

 

[MatterNerd]

Bump

 

[Shiraito983]

Bump

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Bump

 

[Lort15]

as well as paralysis inducement shown here and her limited power null should be changed to technology manip

idk the content but why was this paralysis indicument in the first place? it seems like those creatures just tried to restrain him something happens with LS
I agree with Random-Helper323

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

idk the content but why was this paralysis indicument in the first place? it seems like those creatures just tried to restrain him something happens with LS
I agree with Random-Helper323

That's a fair conclusion to reach, thing is their LS doesn't really have any real disparity at the moment, and if anything Scar's should possibly be higher at this point in time. It also does look like he gets stuck for a fraction of a second, so eh...I think arguments for either can be made, ig whatever staff says

 

[MatterNerd]

Bump

 

[Lort15]

Bump

the last bump was 3 hours ago you are not allowed to bump a CRT until 8 hours passes

 

[Shiraito983]

bump

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Was gonna comment on some of the things but they were explained in the comments above so overall I agree with this revision, though I'd like another calc member to take a look at that first calc since the one that evaluated it said that type of calculation is not their specialty but I'm not gonna hold up the revision. In general it's fine.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

though I'd like another calc member to take a look at that first calc since the one that evaluated it said that type of calculation is not their specialty but I'm not gonna hold up the revision. In general it's fine.

I wouldn't mind that, but I'd ask if you could then notify a calc member to check it out for us so we aren't held up for too long

 

[Arkenis]

Why's it depicted as her breaking through the bh to help the girl?

Not to say its nothing, but its clearly not a regular bh if it's being called a Stellar Matrix, creating black bandages to pull people and also absorbing data. Not sure how valid of a feat it is to calc.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Not to say its nothing, but its clearly not a regular bh if it's being called a Stellar Matrix, creating black bandages to pull people and also absorbing data. Not sure how valid of a feat it is to calc.

It being called a stellar matrix has nothing to do with it's validity, that's a term to describe objects that exist in the bounds of the Tethy's system. It having black "bandages" and absorbing data doesn't discredit anything, especially when it has a blatant gravitational pull. The "bandages" are meant to further pull things in when it's gravitational pull is insufficient

 

[Arkenis]

It being called a stellar matrix has nothing to do with it's validity, that's a term to describe objects that exist in the bounds of the Tethy's system. It having black "bandages" and absorbing data doesn't discredit anything, especially when it has a blatant gravitational pull. The "bandages" are meant to further pull things in when it's gravitational pull is insufficient

I wasn't really using the name as a rejection for its validity, just that the name suggests its not a regular bh but I see how that read like that. It can have the grav pull, just not sure if its appropriate to treat it as a literal bh is all. Where do the bandages come from exactly? Is that just some random attribute?

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

I wasn't really using the name as a rejection for its validity, just that the name suggests its not a regular bh but I see how that read like that. It can have the grav pull, just not sure if its appropriate to treat it as a literal bh is all. Where do the bandages come from exactly? Is that just some random attribute?

Yeah it's just a random attribute