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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

I’m honestly starting to get fed up with Kashimo

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only thing he has is being confident of taking on dabura who is sukuna level apparently

the big dismantle aint evidence imo, it really only matters in crossverse scaling
You are just proving some JJK fans don't read. Yuji scales to Dabura because Entire Jujutsu society believes he is a determine factor against Dabura not because of Yuji's own confidence scaling there are other factors to consider. Which has nothing to do with crossover scaling. Gege is the author here. He knows what he is writing.
 
Oh lord does he know? You really think Kashimo gon remain uncapped?
he gon be capped soon and become a victim
BASE KASHIMO (WRONGFULLY BTW) MAYBE.. BUT MBA? OBV NOT. THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY READ THE MANGA KNOWS THAT MBA IS SIMPLY TOO STRONG. THAT'S WHY HE SCALES TO REL AFTER ALL. BUT KEEP DREAMING BOI 🤣⚡🐐
 
BASE KASHIMO (WRONGFULLY BTW) MAYBE.. BUT MBA? OBV NOT. THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY READ THE MANGA KNOWS THAT MBA IS SIMPLY TOO STRONG. THAT'S WHY HE SCALES TO REL AFTER ALL. BUT KEEP DREAMING BOI 🤣⚡🐐
He scales to rel because of some slop argument that should have never been passed.
Ts get nuked tmr what he got left? Not shit cus he a bum.
Naoya stocks up 🐆
 
Inverse they should be on par with Yuji which would place them above Gojo and Sukuna but that’s hard to prove on wiki. The feat is also unquantifiable
It's not just on site. That feat is done by using Cursed tool imbused attack there is nothing proves Yuta's body is strong enough reinforce on that level or he can do it without that Cursed tool. On top of that he has zero speed feats comparable to Sukuna or Gojo.
 
How did the most 0 effort headcanon ass calc removal even get through. It seems JJK supporters when Buraqibear is busy are quite primitive cave folk
 
It's not just on site. That feat is done by using Cursed tool imbused attack there is nothing proves Yuta's body is strong enough reinforce on that level or he can do it without that Cursed tool. On top of that he has zero speed feats comparable to Sukuna or Gojo.
Weapon reinforcement is no different than body reinforcement. Both is just imbuing cursed energy onto a substance. Idk where all this extra nuance is coming from…
Even if you say this only apply to weapons, Yuta canonically utilize swords lol. And he also uses Rika, so it’s part of his arsenal.

As for speed feats, what speed feats do Gojo/Sukuna have (outside of the EM wave slop) ?
Theyre faster than the main cast but to what degree? A blitz tier.
I don’t think it’s a big claim to assume Yuta should be far faster than he was as a child.
 
Weapon reinforcement is no different than body reinforcement. Both is just imbuing cursed energy onto a substance. Idk where all this extra nuance is coming from…
Even if you say this only apply to weapons, Yuta canonically utilize swords lol. And he also uses Rika, so it’s part of his arsenal.
We seen in JJK0 Normal cursed tools not being able to hold much larger output.
Yuta's body is not like Toji or Maki or Yuji. There is nothing suggests his physical body can withstand the same level of output as that slash
There is another example Hakari body automatically using RCT because it can't handle high output. Yes body needs to be strong enough to handle big output. It doesn't matter if it's Cursed tool or body. They need to be strong. There is nothing suggests Yuta's body is stronger than SSK
As for speed feats, what speed feats do Gojo/Sukuna have (outside of the EM wave slop) ?
Theyre faster than the main cast but to what degree?
So you believe Gojo and Sukuna are not above Blitz tier compared to Main cast?
A blitz tier.
I don’t think it’s a big claim to assume Yuta should be far faster than he was as a child.
Aren't you the same guy who claimed characters doesn't got faster during different arcs?
 
If Bigopp thinks Yuta got faster, then he should also agree that Yuji got faster. And him saying he will handle Dabura means he can likely perceive Dabura’s speed (sublight speed) (I'm not claiming this). Otherwise, it’s just double standards from him. Lol.

Anyway, I’m pretty sure you’re the same people who claimed that characters didn’t get faster from the Culling Game to the Shinjuku Showdown, despite training for a month. I don’t know how you can change your takes so easily and make things up, like Yuta getting so much faster that he’s now comparable to Gojo and Sukuna.

Gojo states that Todo has the potential to surpass Special Grade, but where is he now? He’s retired as a Grade 1. What I’m saying is that Yuta having a statement about reaching Gojo’s level doesn’t mean he has done that. There needs to be some statement or feats to back it up. I’m not denying the SSK feat—I’m just denying scaling that to his other stats and claiming he has surpassed Gojo and Sukuna physically.
 
We seen in JJK0 Normal cursed tools not being able to hold much larger output.
Yuta's body is not like Toji or Maki or Yuji. There is nothing suggests his physical body can withstand the same level of output as that slash
Can you give scans for this? I think you’re leaving out important context cus I don’t recall this ever being a concept in series.
Physical bodies being incapable of handling high output is like, never established iirc.
It’s like a major plot point that sorcerers MUST gain high reinforcement due to the limitations of the physical body. If there was also a limit on output, there would have been extensive discussion about it yet I can’t recall any scenes discussing such.
There is another example Hakari body automatically using RCT because it can't handle high output.
This isn’t true in the slightest. Sorcerers can tell when people output positive energy, Kashimo didn’t mention Hakari having RCT until he actually used it. The statement isn’t saying what you’re asserting. Bad interpretation ngl.
Yes body needs to be strong enough to handle big output. It doesn't matter if it's Cursed tool or body. They need to be strong. There is nothing suggests Yuta's body is stronger than SSK
I need scans ngl.
So you believe Gojo and Sukuna are not above Blitz tier compared to Main cast?
Uhhh? What’s “above blitz tier”? They’re a blitz tier faster than the main cast, but not so much faster that their fights appear as a blur from afar. I don’t think the gap is so large that Yuta 60 years later wouldn’t be as fast, if not faster.
Aren't you the same guy who claimed characters doesn't got faster during different arcs?
I said Yuta and Yuji didn’t get that much stronger between CG and EOS, because we literally have a a claim that suggests such. Yuta is comparable, though weaker, to Ryu.
After his “training” he is noted by Sukuna as still inferior to Ryu in terms of reinforcement. This is while Yuta is being domain buffed.
There’s clear signs of what I claim.
 
If Bigopp thinks Yuta got faster, then he should also agree that Yuji got faster. And him saying he will handle Dabura means he can likely perceive Dabura’s speed (sublight speed) (I'm not claiming this). Otherwise, it’s just double standards from him. Lol.
Double standards???? This some type of logical fallacy that I cannot name at the moment. Yuji and Yuta getting faster does not mean they have to be Dabura level fast (?????????). What a fat leap of logic.
We don’t know how much of the Dabura fight Yuji witnessed, if he even saw it at all, and he could be basing this on raw cursed energy amount of feelsmaxing. I personally believe Yuji didn’t make this in the context of a fight, but in a way of words.
We saw how he “took care of” Maru after he killed Tsurugi. Turn off that goober brain for a second.
 
Can you give scans for this? I think you’re leaving out important context cus I don’t recall this ever being a concept in series.
Physical bodies being incapable of handling high output is like, never established iirc.
Check Geto vs Yuta scene. When his sword broke
It’s like a major plot point that sorcerers MUST gain high reinforcement due to the limitations of the physical body. If there was also a limit on output, there would have been extensive discussion about it yet I can’t recall any scenes discussing such.
Sukuna statement about Angel already tells you that ? Strong technique in weak body he calls her since she is a incarnated player in Hanas weak body.
This isn’t true in the slightest. Sorcerers can tell when people output positive energy, Kashimo didn’t mention Hakari having RCT until he actually used it. The statement isn’t saying what you’re asserting. Bad interpretation ngl.
I think tcb has better TL but can't share it here from the site but here is the otl.
Also you were wrong Kashimo didn't notice Hakari RCT he only guessed it after his arm regenerated.
Uhhh? What’s “above blitz tier”? They’re a blitz tier faster than the main cast, but not so much faster that their fights appear as a blur from afar. I don’t think the gap is so large that Yuta 60 years later wouldn’t be as fast, if not faster.
Gojo states that Todo has the potential to surpass Special Grade, but where is he now? He’s retired as a Grade 1. What I’m saying is that Yuta having a statement about reaching Gojo’s level doesn’t mean he has done that. There needs to be some statement or feats to back it up. I’m not denying the SSK feat—I’m just denying scaling that to his other stats and claiming he has surpassed Gojo and Sukuna physically.
I already addressed that here nothing suggested he trained after Shinjuku showdown and gotten faster. He took over Gojo family and his only feat is pumping CE to Rika's ring. He didnt make any big name for himself unlike Yuji and Gojo were known even after that time. You are just making assumptions with zero statements or implications.
I said Yuta and Yuji didn’t get that much stronger between CG and EOS, because we literally have a a claim that suggests such. Yuta is comparable, though weaker, to Ryu.
After his “training” he is noted by Sukuna as still inferior to Ryu in terms of reinforcement. This is while Yuta is being domain buffed.
There’s clear signs of what I claim.
Why strength = Speed now according to you when Naobito was faster than other 3 SG (2 actually) he wasn't known as stronger than them idk how your claim of Yuta's Durability comparable to Ryu is an argument for speed.
 
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Double standards???? This some type of logical fallacy that I cannot name at the moment. Yuji and Yuta getting faster does not mean they have to be Dabura level fast (?????????). What a fat leap of logic.
Yuji has reasons to get stronger and faster since he is been cleaning up the message around the Japan unlike Yuta who started family and stayed outside of Jujutsu society
We don’t know how much of the Dabura fight Yuji witnessed, if he even saw it at all, and he could be basing this on raw cursed energy amount of feelsmaxing. I personally believe Yuji didn’t make this in the context of a fight, but in a way of words.
He made the statement after Dabura does Sub light Kick either Way As I said I'm not claiming it since few pages back I already said I don't mind Yuji being slower.
We saw how he “took care of” Maru after he killed Tsurugi. Turn off that goober brain for a second.
That whole stuff happened by a coincidence which Yuji didn't had Maru CT idea. He got BFRed and yada yada
 
Check Geto vs Yuta scene. When his sword broke
Already did, you forced me to read all of volume 0 (asshole) to see what you were talking about.
This only occurred because Yuta suddenly imbued all of his energy into the blade, not because the energy was too much.
Geto even says that if he had imbued that amount gradually this wouldn’t have occurred, which is the opposite of what you’re claiming.
That seems to support the notion that there is no supposed limit based on the vessel as long as you gradually apply the energy.
While your interpretation is completely unfounded by this scene.
Sukuna statement about Angel already tells you that ? Strong technique in weak body he calls her since she is a incarnated player in Hanas weak body.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue here? Techniques require and utilize different output than reinforcement.
I think tcb has better TL but can't share it here from the site but here is the otl.
Also you were wrong Kashimo didn't notice Hakari RCT he only guessed it after his arm regenerated.
Hakari literally has infinite CE, if what you’re saying is true then the mf has high 3-A durability for not spontaneously combusting bc of it.
That scene isn’t even referring to output, it’s literally saying because of the sheer amount of CE (unlimited) that’s coursing through his body. I still think it’s saying once he’s been damaged his body automatically heals.
If his entire body is constantly emitting positive energy due to constantly busting itself apart, he’d be continuously fighting with positive energy. He’d literally be healing Kashimo with his punches.
I already addressed that here nothing suggested he trained after Shinjuku showdown and gotten faster. He took over Gojo family and his only feat is pumping CE to Rika's ring. He didnt make any big name for himself unlike Yuji and Gojo were known even after that time. You are just making assumptions with zero statements or implications.
It doesn’t take a scientist to come to the conclusion that a sorcerer 60 years in the future would be stronger. You know sorcerers become stronger from doing their job right? This shouldn’t be a debated topic. There’s no way you believe Yuta remained the same after 60 years.
Why strength = Speed now according to you when Naobito was faster than other 3 SG (2 actually) he wasn't known as stronger than them idk how your claim of Yuta's Durability comparable to Ryu is an argument for speed.
Reinforcement doesn’t exist now????
All of Yuta’s physicality comes from reinforcement, he’s no Yuji or Maki where his body is physically strong on it’s on. His only means of becoming physically stronger is through reinforcement.
Reinforcement scales to strength speed and durability.
If his durability hasn’t increased much then his reinforcement hasn’t increased much. This would apply to all of his other stats.
Idk why you mentioned Naobito, Naobito has a cursed technique that makes him faster. Idk what your point is.
 
Yuji has reasons to get stronger and faster since he is been cleaning up the message around the Japan unlike Yuta who started family and stayed outside of Jujutsu society
Am I illiterate? When did Yuta quit being a sorcerer?
He made the statement after Dabura does Sub light Kick either Way As I said I'm not claiming it since few pages back I already said I don't mind Yuji being slower.
So what was the entire point of that segment????
That whole stuff happened by a coincidence which Yuji didn't had Maru CT idea. He got BFRed and yada yada
Yuji, even after being BFRed to Maru held no malice towards him. He wasn’t aggressive, assumed it was an attack on him. Hell he wasn’t even defensive. He was indifferent and sat and talked with Maru. Even after Maru just killed Tsurugi. Yuji sat and talked with him, didn’t even ask about the fight. Yuji literally does not care.
Him saying he’ll clean things up can be interpreted in many ways, and I believe it’s him trying to come with an understanding with the aliens and trying to resolve things without directly interfering (a fight). Yuji is ok with both of his best friend’s grandchildren dying to random aliens trying to migrate to earth. He’s made his stance clear, he wishes to not intervene and physically stop these people.
 
He scales to rel because of some slop argument that should have never been passed.
Ts get nuked tmr what he got left? Not shit cus he a bum.
Naoya stocks up 🐆
"SLOP ARGUMENT" THAT'S LITERALLY ON THE MANGA 🐐⚡ KEEP DREAMING ABOUT IT BRO. MBA IS NOT CAPPED BY THOSE FODDERS. HE'S A GOD-TIER AND ABOVE EVERYONE.
 
Already did, you forced me to read all of volume 0 (asshole) to see what you were talking about.
This only occurred because Yuta suddenly imbued all of his energy into the blade, not because the energy was too much.
Geto even says that if he had imbued that amount gradually this wouldn’t have occurred, which is the opposite of what you’re claiming.
That seems to support the notion that there is no supposed limit based on the vessel as long as you gradually apply the energy.
While your interpretation is completely unfounded by this scene.
Except Cursed tool are non living being which can be passed down for Generations and Sorcerers are living beings which would die one day. Also no Kusakabe become Grade 1 Sorcerer and been using same Cursed tool for years we don't get any statement for it getting stronger than him lol.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to argue here? Techniques require and utilize different output than reinforcement.
Sukuna is implying Angel in Hanas body was weak because she can't use same level reinforcements as original one Technique has nothing to do with it.
Hakari literally has infinite CE, if what you’re saying is true then the mf has high 3-A durability for not spontaneously combusting bc of it.
CE pool ≠ CE reinforcements
Also idk when unlimited = High 3-A 😭😭😭
That scene isn’t even referring to output, it’s literally saying because of the sheer amount of CE (unlimited) that’s coursing through his body. I still think it’s saying once he’s been damaged his body automatically heals.
If his entire body is constantly emitting positive energy due to constantly busting itself apart, he’d be continuously fighting with positive energy. He’d literally be healing Kashimo with his punches.
Why would it be visible to others when both positive and negative energy synchronisation is too fast for others to notice. His Regeneration speed is way off the chart. Kashimo didn't even noticed him using RCT until he got punched and saw hand was already grown. You ignored that point which I already pointed out
It doesn’t take a scientist to come to the conclusion that a sorcerer 60 years in the future would be stronger. You know sorcerers become stronger from doing their job right? This shouldn’t be a debated topic. There’s no way you believe Yuta remained the same after 60 years.
There is no threat and there is zero indication he was going around and gaining EXP and getting stronger and faster. Only thing he done was increasing CE reserve for his Ring and passing down the Generation. If what you are saying is True Naobita would have been SG but he wasn't despite being 70 years old.
Reinforcement doesn’t exist now????
All of Yuta’s physicality comes from reinforcement, he’s no Yuji or Maki where his body is physically strong on it’s on. His only means of becoming physically stronger is through reinforcement.
Reinforcement scales to strength speed and durability.
If his durability hasn’t increased much then his reinforcement hasn’t increased much. This would apply to all of his other stats.
Idk why you mentioned Naobito, Naobito has a cursed technique that makes him faster. Idk what your point is.
Reinforcements on Body and Cursed Energy blast with a cursed tool are different things. JJK doesn't have UES and nothing really accepted for Yuta that his AP speed and durability are dependent on Reinforcements alone. He has better durability thanks to his massive CE pool while Rika and Yuta stated to be equal Rika has higher LS and SS arguably which Yuta lacks. You can't really make 1+1=3 with your arguments here.
Am I illiterate? When did Yuta quit being a sorcerer?
I said he stayed out of jujutsu society I didn't say he might have quit instantly? There is also fact his name was not brought up as any big noticable figures already speaks the Volumes
So what was the entire point of that segment????
Just pointing out possible double standard
Yuji, even after being BFRed to Maru held no malice towards him. He wasn’t aggressive, assumed it was an attack on him. Hell he wasn’t even defensive. He was indifferent and sat and talked with Maru. Even after Maru just killed Tsurugi. Yuji sat and talked with him, didn’t even ask about the fight. Yuji literally does not care.
Him saying he’ll clean things up can be interpreted in many ways, and I believe it’s him trying to come with an understanding with the aliens and trying to resolve things without directly interfering (a fight). Yuji is ok with both of his best friend’s grandchildren dying to random aliens trying to migrate to earth. He’s made his stance clear, he wishes to not intervene and physically stop these people.
Yuji didn't shown any malice towards Sukuna too in the end. He still cooked him. Idk if you actually read JJK or some other your own fantasy series. He would save the world that's what he was talking about since he is literally cleaning up the curses and all. He respected his dual with Maru idk why he would just go rampage without hearing what Maru has to say.
 
This is from imbuing a vessel with a huge volume of Cursed Energy too suddenly, you need to ease it in. There isn't a cap on how much it can handle. I mean, look at Yuta's ring lmfao it has like 500 Sukunas-worth of Cursed Energy.
I don't know where you got this from but it was never mentioned. Either way having CE pool and output is different and you are literally proving my point Rika didn't fired that attack normally gone into a stance and put CE into the Sword and fired it so yeah it's not something can be done normally
 
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