Warhammer 40,000: 8-C? 8-C.

[DaReaperMan]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AbaddonTheDisappointment/Titus_survives_two_explosions

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AbaddonTheDisappointment/Neurothrope_creates_an_explosion

So we have two examples of 8-C for a normal Astartes(Titus) and something he fights and eats hits from regularly(A neurothrope). So I'm here to replace that misuse of lightning on their pages to instead upgrade normal Adeptus Astartes to a level that, while still stupid, at least has feats backing it that can be linked to the profiles. Which I'll only be doing on the Astartes and Titus Profiles. I already have to versewide like 50 profiles **** you.

Who changes?​

...Oh boy.

Spoiler: The L I S T

Anyone here not High 8-C already scales to Titus

Kaldor Draigo

Kaldor Draigo is the 48th and current Supreme Grand Master of the Grey Knights, and likely the Grey Knights' greatest hero since Lord Janus, the 1st Supreme Grand Master of the Chapter. As a simple Battle-Brother, Kaldor Draigo earned renown when he fought against M'kar the Reborn on the world...

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He is literally wearing Terminator Armor, he's scaling.

Aldrik Voldus

Aldrik Voldus, otherwise known as Grand Master Voldus, is the Grand Masster of the Grey Knights' Third Brotherhood. After the death of Valdar Aurikon and the slaying of the Lord of Change M'Kachen with Kaldor Draigo, he was appointed the third Grand Master of the Third Brotherhood. Draigo...

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Again, he's wearing Terminator Armor.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Castellan_Crowe

He's in the same armor as an Astartes, he scales

Legion of the Damned

The Legion of the Damned are a mysterious band of ghastly Space Marines whose origin is unknown and contested by many within the Imperium. What is known however is that the Damned Legion seems to always appear during the Imperium's greatest time of need to offer their support against the foes of...

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Their profile goes into better detail than I could

Adeptus Custodes

"Each one of the Ten Thousand represents genetic lore acquired over many lifetimes. Each one of you is unique, a work of art never to be repeated. I am miserly with your lives, where I would spend so many others without a thought." - The Emperor on his Custodes The Adeptus Custodes, known as the...

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T-They literally crush Astartes so hard one asked if they were designed to crush Astartes. They scale.

Sly Marbo

Sly Marbo, the "One Man Army", is a Catachan guardsman. As a Catachan native, the jungle is his element, and he is capable of taking on entire enemy forces through his innate skill at jungle and guerrilla warfare. He strikes from seemingly nowhere and disappears back into the dense jungle. He is...

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Holy shit this profile is ancient-- yes he scales, he scales to Orks who scale to Astartes

Solar Macharius

Lord Commander Solar Macharius (356-400.M41) was the chief military commander of the Imperium's Segmentum Solar, one of the High Lords of Terra and likely the greatest Imperial Guard commander in Imperial History, being considered one of the greatest military minds to have been produced by...

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Tllmbrg is remaking him, but he downscales.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ratling

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nightsider

Lasguns downscale, as stated on the profile.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ogryn

Literally read their profile

Belisarius Cawl

Archmagos Dominus Belisarius Cawl was already old at the birth of the Imperium, over ten thousand years ago. During that span of ages the Tech-Priest has served Mars and the Machine God as a Forge Lord and a Lexico Arcanus, but it is in his role as Magos Biologis that Cawl’s greatest mastery...

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His 8-C would get a proper rating

Adepta Sororitas

The Adepta Sororitas, formerly known as the Daughters of the Emperor, are an all-female division of the Adeptus Ministorum. The Orders Militant of the Adepta Sororitas, more commonly known as the Sisters of Battle, are the Ministorum's only official military force, as the "Decree Passive" laid...

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Scale to Astartes

Officio Assassinorum

The Officio Assassinorum is the Imperium's highly secretive agency designed to push individuals beyond normal human limits, turning them into some of the deadliest killing machines ever conceived. Even the most hardened warriors fear the Assassins, and rightly so. Each Assassin is rigorously...

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**** THIS PROFILE-- erm, I mean, the 8-C obviously gets values.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cyber-Mastiff

Scales to Ogryn who scale above Astartes
Anyone here not already High 8-C or 8-B

Tuska the Daemon-Killa

Tuska the "Daemon-Killa" is an Ork Warlord who lead a WAAAGH! into the depths of the Eye of Terror, into Chaos itself, reaching even Khorne's Brass Citadel. After killing a powerful Daemon in his Kill Kruizer, Tuska discovered that Daemons made for phenomenal opponents, and therefore launched an...

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High-end 8-C

Gargaz (Shootas, Blood, & Teef)

Gargaz Teefgrabba is the main character of Shootas, Blood & Teef, who has his Hairsquig stolen by Warboss Gotrekka, and decided to go on a quest to defeat Gotrekka for his Hairsquig back, fighting through a warzone and a genestealer cult to get to him. Tier: Likely 8-C physically, High 8-C...

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Nother 8-C

Farseer Macha

Macha is a Farseer and Psyker of the Eldar Craftworld of Biel-Tan. She is a wise and knowledgeable prophet, unable to leave the Path of the Seer, but also a fierce warrior who leads Biel-Tan's armies in battle across the galaxy. A long time ago, Macha sealed a Greater Daemon of Khorne inside the...

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8-C wizard

Prince Yriel

High Admiral of the Eldritch Raiders and bastard scion of the House of Ulthanash, Prince Yriel is a consummate Asuryani commander. In his youth, despite his lack of years, he was chosen to walk the Path of Command – a level of trust that many speculated was unwarranted. Those who questioned the...

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8-C pirate

Szarekh, The Silent King

Szarekh, otherwise known as The Silent King, was the last Triarch of the Necrontyr and currently the last Silent King of the Necron. During the times of the Necrontyr and the War in Heaven, Szarekh made a deal with the beings known as the C'tan to grant his species power, technology, and the...

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Imotekh the Stormlord

Imotekh the Stormlord is the current Phaeron of the Sautekh Dynasty, the greatest Necron Dynasty. Commanding over a hundred Tomb Worlds, the Phaeron mastermind is arguably the greatest Necron Overlord in the galaxy. Like every Necron, Imotekh has been asleep for 60 million years, he awoke in the...

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Orikan the Diviner

Orikan the Diviner is a consummate astromancer and greatest of the Chronomancer Crypteks. Using his powers to see the future by reading the starts, it was him that first foretold that the alliance with the C'tan would bring about a renaissance of glory, but destroy forever the soul of the...

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Trazyn the Infinite

Trazyn the Infinite is the self-proclaimed Archaeovist of the Solemnace Galleries and Necron Overlord of the Nihilakh Dynasty, operating out of the Tomb World of Solemnace. He preserves the artifacts, histories, and even events of his own and other races, sometimes taking them by force. Though...

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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Huntmaster

Phaeron Ahmontekh

Phaeron Ahmontekh, called in ages past the Crimson Scythe for the blood in which he drenched the sector, is the once and future king of the Suhbekhar Dynasty. The Phaeron was at one time counted amongst the most puissant of warriors and his name was feared across countless thousands of worlds...

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Necrons in general are 8-C, so...

Genestealers

Genestealers are amongst the most infamous and feared of all Tyranid organisms. As the first Tyranids encountered by the Imperium, their ferocity, hardiness, and strength has led them to be feared across the galaxy. Sent in as long as hundreds of years prior to Tyranid invasions, Genestealers...

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They're 8-C from their profiles, but I'm not 100% sure? eh, who cares.

Tyranids

The Tyranids, also known as the Great Devourer, are an extragalactic swarm of countless alien species unified by a single will and overlapping consciousness, the Hive Mind. Each and every organism in the Tyranid swarm has been biologically engineered and evolved into weapons of destruction made...

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no **** you I'm not touching this profile except to add a + to all the Building levels, hell to the no.

Commander Shadowsun

Shas'O Shaserra, better known as Commander Shadowsun to the Imperium of Man, was the commander of the T'au Fire Caste's military campaign that carried out the T'au Empire's Third Sphere Expansion, and is the current supreme commander of the T'au Empire. Tier: At least 8-C, High 8-C with Fusion...

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This profile is so old...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aun%27shi

Obvious 8-C

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kroot

Same as the Tyranids.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Clawed_Fiend

8-Cs, no shit.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ur-Ghul

They ate Astartes once

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Crotalid

They death roll Astartes

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Milliasaur

Durability scales to lasguns

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Diablodon

Nother 8-C beast

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rak%27Gol

They have one Lasgun-level weapon

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Stealth_Battlesuit

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/XV9_Hazard_Battlesuit

Space communist Battlesuits are 8-C

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Seems legit to me.

 

[Armorchompy]

To be clear, these are all people who scale to the Astartes already? Seems fine.

 

[DaReaperMan]

To be clear, these are all people who scale to the Astartes already? Seems fine.

Yeah, everyone who in some way scales to an Astartes is here.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Seems fine to me

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright.

 

[Planck69]

Seems good to me.

 

[Random-Helper323]

The Titus calculation yields baseline 8-B. It doesn't go into how much of the explosion he withstood though.

Space Marines are already 8-C though, so otherwise this seems straightforward.

 

[DaReaperMan]

The Titus calculation yields baseline 8-B. It doesn't go into how much of the explosion he withstood though.

One of them does. For the purposes of this thread, we consider that an outlier. Also, he was holding the guy who was blowing up, so...

 

[Random-Helper323]

Also, he was holding the guy who was blowing up, so...

That should be fine then.

 

[Armorchompy]

The fireball formula isn't actually good for most feats, I don't think. Dunno why it spread so much other than people liking bigger numbers

 

[DaReaperMan]

The fireball formula isn't actually good for most feats, I don't think. Dunno why it spread so much other than people liking bigger numbers

If you want to redo the calc...

Here ya go. Unless you mean the Neurothrope.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

If you want to redo the calc...

Here ya go. Unless you mean the Neurothrope.

Neurothrope used the ground formula so he's definitely talking about the Titus one

The fireball formula isn't actually good for most feats, I don't think. Dunno why it spread so much other than people liking bigger numbers

I mean, it probably spread cause it's the first explosion formula you see on the page for mid-air explosions. It's why I used it in all honesty.

If the formula isn't the best/calc isn't valid at least there's the Neurothrope one to fall back on

 

[DaReaperMan]

Neurothrope used the ground formula so he's definitely talking about the Titus one


I mean, it probably spread cause it's the first explosion formula you see on the page for mid-air explosions. It's why I used it in all honesty.

If the formula isn't the best/calc isn't valid at least there's the Neurothrope one to fall back on

I'd prefer just the Neurothrope because then I'm not editing most of the 8-Cs

 

[Tllmbrg]

Looks good.

 

[Armorchompy]

Oh wait my mistake, I thought it was a different one I've seen on some blogs recently- yeah this is just the standard explosion calc method LOL. My bad, I just rarely hear it referred to this way.

Apologies for the confusion.

 

[Kenny Mccormick 0v0]

Solar Macharius was said to be the greatest commander in imperial guard history. Can we scale him above random rejects veteran from Darktide who can kill the horde of ogryn, chaos spawn, plague ogryn, beast of nurgle which I think should be comparable to Astates at least?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Solar Macharius was said to be the greatest commander in imperial guard history. Can we scale him above random rejects veteran from Darktide who can kill the horde of ogryn, chaos spawn, plague ogryn, beast of nurgle which I think should be comparable to Astates at least?

That does not necessarily mean he's the strongest. Anything here is going into scaling for a profile that sorely needs reworks and indeed has a rework planned by @Tllmbrg so...

 

[Qawsedf234]

o we have two examples of 8-C for a normal Astartes(Titus)

I wouldn't call Titus normal, though. It would be like calling Cato Sicarius a normal swordsman or Ahriman a normal librarian. Titus has a specialized warp resistance, can beat strong Necron units, and is generally beyond the average Ultramarine.

But overall, I guess I'm fine with the scaling.

That does not necessarily mean he's the strongest.

Imo, I would hold off on scaling purely gameplay stuff to other characters. Darktide Rejects killing an Ogryn does not mean any Imperial commander can do the same. They're freakishly strong, not the other way around 99.9% of the time.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I wouldn't call Titus normal, though. It would be like calling Cato Sicarius a normal swordsman or Ahriman a normal librarian. Titus has a specialized warp resistance, can beat strong Necron units, and is generally beyond the average Ultramarine.

The difference is him resisting the Warp and skill, mainly. There's a reason he's thrown into command roles and whatnot, he's built different for those, but like, the guy does not necessarily scale above other Astartes. He can still be harmed and killed by people comparable to Astartes like CSMs.

But admittedly, it's not like I've read his lore before SM1 or after SM2 yet, but if there is upscaling it's not like it's insurmountable or that people on the level of a rando Astartes can't hurt him.

But overall, I guess I'm fine with the scaling.

kk

 

[DaReaperMan]

It's time I start suffering. Applying this thread, see you in like an hour

 

[DaReaperMan]

That's everything I found, including a couple I missed in the OP somehow.

 

[Random-Helper323]

That's everything I found, including a couple I missed in the OP somehow.

Let me know when the edits are done so I can lock this thread, okay?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Let me know when the edits are done so I can lock this thread, okay?

They've been done

That's everything I found, including a couple I missed in the OP somehow.

This post was when I finished.

 

[Random-Helper323]

They've been done

This post was when I finished.

Thought that might be the case. I was just making sure. Locking this now. Thanks for answering quickly.