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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

the Clap's KE would be sufficient to splinter the wood from that range easy, whether it impacts it or not
Don’t you know? Air in the Dark World suppresses Neutron Bomb levels of energy passively, obviously you’re a fake fan
 
I mean, the entire stage with the background was created by Tenna himself, and it seems to follow his will (like when it stops moving when Tenna starts a mini-game or when it starts moving again when we pass/fail a minigame).So it could be said that the reason there is no visible damage is because Tenna doesn't want there to be (besides, the only way for the stage to disappear is by defeating Tenna, so the existence/state of the stage seems to depend on his condition). Although I'm not sure if this would be a valid reason.

Anyway, what do y'all think about this?
 
Don’t you know? Air in the Dark World suppresses Neutron Bomb levels of energy passively, obviously you’re a fake fan
Mfs when a structure that is made trought reality warping/law manip isn't the same as their normal counterpart,i'm talking about the stage btw
 
I am pretty sure that validity of sound waves in Mike fight will get contested hard, given how much it would be future pillar of scaling. But for now they are accepted in at least one calc, so another calc for us from me: 498 tons of TNT, and 26.66 million tons of TNT (higher than SoJ, lower than Tenna).
(Toby gives any good feat that it's not KE or weather/temperature thing)
On this topic, anyone have guess on how to calculate this Mike ball mass?
 
I am pretty sure that validity of sound waves in Mike fight will get contested hard, given how much it would be future pillar of scaling. But for now they are accepted in at least one calc, so another calc for us from me: 498 tons of TNT, and 26.66 million tons of TNT (higher than SoJ, lower than Tenna).
Tbf I hard disagree with those being sound waves because nothing hints at them being actually these sound waves. Spamton's attacks at least do tell you they are, Mike's case not really, they're just an effect that happens to be with sound.
 
On this topic, anyone have guess on how to calculate this Mike ball mass?
You could use the mass of the Zapper (already calculated) and try to find the mass of the green Pippins. And since they seem to be covered in thread/fabric (I'm not quite sure what it is), you could calculate the mass of the ball.
 
Mfs when a structure that is made trought reality warping/law manip isn't the same as their normal counterpart,i'm talking about the stage btw
Being made by reality warping or under law manip doesn't suddenly mean the things made are 1000000x stronger than their regular counterpart, what? You have to prove that specifically the wooden floor is stronger than normal wood.
 
Being made by reality warping or under law manip doesn't suddenly mean the things made are 1000000x stronger than their regular counterpart, what? You have to prove that specifically the wooden floor is stronger than normal wood.
“Prove”? What are you talking about? This is the vsbw, all we have to do is convince mods of our agenda and henceforth it is true.
 
Being made by reality warping or under law manip doesn't suddenly mean the things made are 1000000x stronger than their regular counterpart, what? You have to prove that specifically the wooden floor is stronger than normal wood.
This isn't a good argument because yeah, it doesn't prove it's stronger, but also doesn't mean it's the same strength as the irl counterpart either, making it a null point overall.
 
This isn't a good argument because yeah, it doesn't prove it's stronger, but also doesn't mean it's the same strength as the irl counterpart either, making it a null point overall.
The burden of proof is on him to prove the otherwise normal looking and acting wood is stronger than normal. The argument he provided didn't prove that, and so I pointed it out, simple as that.
 
You have to prove that specifically the wooden floor is stronger than normal wood.
That floor can support weight of 5 meter and 28.5 tonnes Darkner. I am no expert on wooden floors, but I don't think they would be able to withstand if 6 IRL elephants jumped on them with normal human speed
 
That floor can support weight of 5 meter and 28.5 tonnes Darkner. I am no expert on wooden floors, but I don't think they would be able to withstand if 6 IRL elephants jumped on them with normal human speed
I didn't even know this calc existed, but its got a few issues that will tank the results.
 
The burden of proof is on him to prove the otherwise normal looking and acting wood is stronger than normal. The argument he provided didn't prove that, and so I pointed it out, simple as that.
1:it's created trought reality warping law manip
2:it's supported by Tenna's magic,as proven the fact that it only appears when Tenna summons it,the fact it stops when he wants it to stop,it gets desummoned when Tenna wants it to,it's speed changes depending on Tenna's toughts,etc etc etc
3:even if we ignore that Tenna was jumping at mhs+ speeds,just Tenna jumping at normal human speeds would cause the stage to break considering his weight
4:entire battles happen on the stage even tho the characters were already city block level and ftl at that point
5:Occam's razor lol
 
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I was thinking about this earlier today, shouldn't Asriel have a "higher with X" on his speed section given that Frisk needs aim-dodging for both shocker breaker and chaos buster?
 
For chaos buster I think only the laser portion given that the bullets seem slow enough for Frisk to get out after they're fired
For the first version maybe but for the second version the aim-dodge warning lines are pretty much needed as the firing patterns are random and go much faster.
 
Susie and Kris have class G LS but can't lift a damn couch💔
Planet busters btw
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Just saw this and oh my god,i genuinely can't believe there are undertale fans that don't know basically all aus in existence,but i think it's unfair to say that since i've grow up with undertale and its fandom

Tbf I hard disagree with those being sound waves because nothing hints at them being actually these sound waves. Spamton's attacks at least do tell you they are, Mike's case not really, they're just an effect that happens to be with sound.
Nah it makes me happy that the undertale fandom was able to survive completely fine for 3 years begore deltarune came out,also multiple fandoms are kept alive by the fandom for example every single game series ever
 
 
Didn't touhou 20 release last year💀 and there is still foul detective satori
What I meant is that the fanworks of touhou are so overwhelming that most outsiders are prone to see them first before the actual games not to even talk about the print works, unless its the touhou is hard meme. Like most touhou fans still think Sakuya is a vampire hunter despite it not being canon at all.
 
Touhou has 5 released official games over the last 5 years, bruh
What I meant is that the fanworks of touhou are so overwhelming that most outsiders are prone to see them first before the actual games not to even talk about the print works, unless its the touhou is hard meme. Like most touhou fans still think Sakuya is a vampire hunter despite it not being canon at all.
 
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