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Profil for Chen Fan

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Hello, I am creating this thread today to validate the profile of Chen Fan, the character from the webtoon Rebirth of the Urban Immortal Cultivator.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Le_démon_Araii/sandbox


The page itself is not up to date because I am not yet up to date on the webtoon, which has more than 1,120 chapters in raw form, and the profile does not go beyond chapter 816 at the moment, so I will need to create other threads to update the profile until it is up to date with the webtoon.



If there are things to review, such as calculations for speeds, lifting forces, etc., I welcome any help with that.



If further details are needed on haxs, I can also provide additional information.



As for the “Cultivator Physiology” hax, since the page for this hax dedicated to the verse of the character in question has not been created, I have not been able to link to it.
 
From a quick glance at the profile his first key should lose its layred eletricity manip and his immo negation should be changed to type 1
The fact that he can override electricity manipulation through his superior understanding of the element and take control of lightning should prove the layer, right?

Otherwise, what is the key to immortality negation?
 
I'll just comment on the hax and statistics, and not the horrid formatting. You should remove or change this stuff:

Cultivator physiologie ( Any cultivator who successfully completes their training obtains the physique of a cultivator. After that, they manage to break through the limitations of their mortal body and acquire strength capable of lifting hundreds of pounds (45.4 kg or 90.7 jin), running as fast as a horse (21–27 km/h)[1]
At least show the right scans, there's no mention of any of this in your scans.

Body control is manipulating your own body. And for power nullification, he isn't nullifying someone's hax, just their ability to move and use their physical strength.

He's not manipulating anyone's mind.

This is a verse-specific ability, only Ergenverse has it.

Your scans do not reflect the justification.

This is just wood manipulation.

The nature of this ability is seemly unknown, it would be better as invisibility.

The fact that he can override electricity manipulation through his superior understanding of the element and take control of lightning should prove the layer, right?
No, his electricity manipulation needs to overcome resistance to electricity.

That's just how mind manipulation works. Should be removed.

He didn't negate anything; he just took away his lifespan, which caused him to die.

This is healing. He's absorbing the lifeforce of others to heal himself. If it were regeneration, he wouldn't need to do that; it would happen automatically.

This is also healing; he used a technique to do it, if it were regeneration, it would happen passively, as I said above.

This is in his first and second key, which one has it?

This is no adaptation happening here.

This is just stealth mastery.

These two instances of suppression look unrelated. It is common for realms to lower a person's cultivation level, but that does not mean every instance suppression is mentioned that its power nullification. And it wouldn't even be power nullification, but statistics reduction.

Doesn't even say they weren't able to predict his attack, it just means Chen Fans attack speed is higher than what they can perceive.

Type 1 should go, in the same scan it literally says his body has a lifespan. Souls don't count for type 1 iirc.

This is type 3, and I don't think it's statistics amplification. A curse prevents them from reaching the next realm, but if it's lifted, due to their accumulation of power, they naturally break through. This is common in cultivation novels.

This is just statistics reduction. He's not negating their immortality, just removing their cultivation, which grants them such abilities. And this would not be type 1 or 2 negation, anyone can kill type 1, it just means they have no lifepan, for type 2, it could just be that they can't withstand the amount of damage they sustained. Also, you need the scans for their immortality in here.

This just looks like a perspective difference.

Unsure if having a strong causality is equal to being on a higher level of causality.

Subjective reality should go since he's not bringing his imagination to reality.

Attack Potency: Town level (Chen Fan possesses power equivalent to a hydrogen bomb.)
Needs scans.

Universal+ with Causality Manipulation (Chen Fan's causal power can distort the entire universe.)
This only works if he distorts the entire space-time continuum, iirc.

Needs keys just like every other statistic.

Stamina: Superhuman (Cultivators are no longer normal humans and surpass their limits with each breakthrough into the next realm of cultivation. They can endure serious or even fatal injuries that would kill others.)
Range: Kilometers | Kilometers | Kilometers | Planetary | Universal
Intelligence: Genius (Chen Fan's knowledge and skills are said to be beyond the comprehension of mere mortals.)
Needs kays and scans.
 
At least show the right scans, there's no mention of any of this in your scans.
So
Body control is manipulating your own body. And for power nullification, he isn't nullifying someone's hax, just their ability to move and use their physical strength.
No, he didn't negate his physical strength, but rather dissipated his Qi, literally removing his ability to cultivate and be a cultivator. As for body control, okay, I'll remove that.
He's not manipulating anyone's mind.
He's not manipulating anyone's mind.
Telepathy is associated with mind manipulation.
This is a verse-specific ability, only Ergenverse has it.
And that is literally how Chen Fan developed his divine sense.
Your scans do not reflect the justification.
I therefore invite you to review the page for this hax because Chen Fan detected a person's energy and could even sense that they were ready to attack; energy detection fits the definition of this hax.
This is just wood manipulation.
I didn't include enough screenshots, it's my fault, because it shows that he controls the pain she feels, and she herself describes it as torture.
The nature of this ability is seemly unknown, it would be better as invisibility.
It's not invisibility because the guy clearly sees him, but he's the only one who can see him, so perception is necessarily involved, and the drawing shows that Chen Fan is using a power that makes him invisible to other people's perception.
No, his electricity manipulation needs to overcome resistance to electricity.
Okay, I'll delete it.
That's just how mind manipulation works. Should be removed.
It's my fault, I didn't include that panel which proves that he did indeed killed it by directly ignoring its durability.
He didn't negate anything; he just took away his lifespan, which caused him to die.
Okay, I'll delete it.
This is healing. He's absorbing the lifeforce of others to heal himself. If it were regeneration, he wouldn't need to do that; it would happen automatically.
It's literally been shown that it heals and regenerates him, and immortality is also proven.
This is also healing; he used a technique to do it, if it were regeneration, it would happen passively, as I said above.
Okay, so I'll remove regeneration and type 3 immortality then and I change for healing
This is in his first and second key, which one has it?
Tianxian, it's my fault, I forgot to remove the one from the first key.
This is no adaptation happening here.
Okay, I'll delete it.
This is just stealth mastery.
This does not apply in this case because he defied celestial laws by lowering his cultivation, allowing him to delay the tribulation.
These two instances of suppression look unrelated. It is common for realms to lower a person's cultivation level, but that does not mean every instance suppression is mentioned that its power nullification. And it wouldn't even be power nullification, but statistics reduction.
Realm suppression is a natural pressure exerted by the superior realm on the inferior realm, but if stat reduction is more appropriate, then I will change it.
Doesn't even say they weren't able to predict his attack, it just means Chen Fans attack speed is higher than what they can perceive.
The opponent's precognition is a form of Analytical Prediction, except that it didn't predict the attack because it might have been too powerful, but it still implies that the opponent resisted it due to its significantly superior speed.
Type 1 should go, in the same scan it literally says his body has a lifespan. Souls don't count for type 1 iirc.
Nowhere is it stated that the soul is not taken into account, and in any case, type 8 is linked to the soul because as long as it is not destroyed, it will not die, and the soul is said to be "eternal," so it can live eternally in soul form.
This is type 3,
Okay, I'll change.
This is just statistics reduction. He's not negating their immortality, just removing their cultivation, which grants them such abilities. And this would not be type 1 or 2 negation, anyone can kill type 1, it just means they have no lifepan, for type 2, it could just be that they can't withstand the amount of damage they sustained. Also, you need the scans for their immortality in here.
The fact that he was rendered "mortal" means he is no longer a cultivator, therefore he no longer possesses the necessary physiology, any soul-related immortality, and so on. He can no longer manipulate Qi. Chen Fan himself says his immortality has been removed, and the old man clearly states that he is now merely a mortal without any power.
This just looks like a perspective difference.
It is so large that it is easily visible from Earth, even though it is quite far away, and they can speak quite naturally, implying that it is indeed large enough to be seen from Earth.
Unsure if having a strong causality is equal to being on a higher level of causality.
All the panels show that Chen Fan's causality is too heavy for the universe, that his very existence disrupts the universe's causality, that the universe's grand karma has changed because of him, that his causality distorts the entire universe, and this passage explains that the more powerful Chen Fan becomes, the more his causal power also becomes, and the more the universe is destroyed.
Subjective reality should go since he's not bringing his imagination to reality.
He literally said the word "death," and the word condensed into reality as a chain, literally killing the enemies. He transformed a simple, unreal word into something real.
Needs scans.
I don't have it, I think I forgot to put it in and I'm too lazy to look for it now, so I'll put "Unknown," is that okay?
This only works if he distorts the entire space-time continuum, iirc.
With the Acausality Type 4 panels and the other panels I sent in my reply, it is proven that it affects the space and time of the entire universe.
Needs keys just like every other statistic
There aren't enough feats to prove the other keys.
For Striking, it would be: Unknown | Mountain | Mountain | Mountain | Small Planet (stronger than Han Jin and defeated the Immortal Emperors, whose kingdoms are two above Han Jin's).
 
Alright, you added it.

No, he didn't negate his physical strength, but rather dissipated his Qi, literally removing his ability to cultivate and be a cultivator. As for body control, okay, I'll remove that.
Eh, fine.

Associated, not is. Plus, he didn't read anyone's mind; he did some weird psychometry.

And that is literally how Chen Fan developed his divine sense.
Doesn't matter, it's not a hax he can have. It belongs entirely to another verse.

I therefore invite you to review the page for this hax because Chen Fan detected a person's energy and could even sense that they were ready to attack; energy detection fits the definition of this hax.
I know, looking at the scan again, I see it.

I didn't include enough screenshots, it's my fault, because it shows that he controls the pain she feels, and she herself describes it as torture.
Because he controls the wood in her.

It's not invisibility because the guy clearly sees him, but he's the only one who can see him, so perception is necessarily involved, and the drawing shows that Chen Fan is using a power that makes him invisible to other people's perception.
Selective invisibility is possible but sure.

It's my fault, I didn't include that panel which proves that he did indeed killed it by directly ignoring its durability.
Doesn't change anything; mind manipulation naturally ignores the physical body because it targets the mind.

It's literally been shown that it heals and regenerates him, and immortality is also proven.
Doesn't matter; regeneration must be passive to qualify.

This does not apply in this case because he defied celestial laws by lowering his cultivation, allowing him to delay the tribulation.
And where is the information being manipulated?

Realm suppression is a natural pressure exerted by the superior realm on the inferior realm, but if stat reduction is more appropriate, then I will change it.
Yes, but the realm suppressing people's cultivation when they enter it does not mean cultivators do the same.

The opponent's precognition is a form of Analytical Prediction, except that it didn't predict the attack because it might have been too powerful, but it still implies that the opponent resisted it due to its significantly superior speed.
Resisting via speed doesn't count. Or doesn't really exist.

Nowhere is it stated that the soul is not taken into account, and in any case, type 8 is linked to the soul because as long as it is not destroyed, it will not die, and the soul is said to be "eternal," so it can live eternally in soul form.
Well, the soul doesn't have a lifespan anyway, unless said to. And eternal doesn't mean anything by itself, could just be fancy words.

The fact that he was rendered "mortal" means he is no longer a cultivator, therefore he no longer possesses the necessary physiology, any soul-related immortality, and so on. He can no longer manipulate Qi. Chen Fan himself says his immortality has been removed, and the old man clearly states that he is now merely a mortal without any power.
I've already said why it doesn't work; you haven't refuted anything here.

It is so large that it is easily visible from Earth, even though it is quite far away, and they can speak quite naturally, implying that it is indeed large enough to be seen from Earth.
This is probably due to telepathy, and also, since it's so far away, it proves my point on a perspective difference.

All the panels show that Chen Fan's causality is too heavy for the universe, that his very existence disrupts the universe's causality, that the universe's grand karma has changed because of him, that his causality distorts the entire universe, and this passage explains that the more powerful Chen Fan becomes, the more his causal power also becomes, and the more the universe is destroyed.
Which is not "operating on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality."

He literally said the word "death," and the word condensed into reality as a chain, literally killing the enemies. He transformed a simple, unreal word into something real.
But the word is not unreal, it still exists in some sense. It would be subjective reality if he brought a thought into reality.

With the Acausality Type 4 panels and the other panels I sent in my reply, it is proven that it affects the space and time of the entire universe.
Acasuality type 4 doesn't give AP. And it doesn't say all of space-time.

There aren't enough feats to prove the other keys.
For Striking, it would be: Unknown | Mountain | Mountain | Mountain | Small Planet (stronger than Han Jin and defeated the Immortal Emperors, whose kingdoms are two above Han Jin's).
Yeah, just put it like that.
 
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