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Well I'm just explaining the speed equalized rules. If you want to argue this match cannot be added because Gojo has an unfair reaction speed advantage, go ahead.
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Satoru Gojo vs Saitama
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Infinity is an aspect of his CT that divides distance.
It’s a form of spatial manipulation but it’d be different from something like subspace gates, or the phoenix space, imo.
I don’t even think we should call it a space, it’s just distance manipulation.
Saying Saitama should be able to grab it due to his form of NPI is a NLF. Someone being able to interact with a ghost doesn’t mean they can grab subspace gates or interact with separate spaces.
Being able to do those wouldn’t mean they can touch a ghost as well.
I don’t think Saitama having NPI means he should be able to interact with any and all things non physical.
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It can be added because Gojo has no win con regardless of his reaction speed. If he was winning solely from a reaction speed superiority in equal speeds that he otherwise wouldn't have, then it wouldn't be able to be added.
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Gojo’s win con is domain
Saqphire
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Verse equalisation wasn't established so no, it's not. Also Saitama would unironically be like a HR mf on here
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LMFAO
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Oh no vq? Why did OP even make this match?????
Sb close ts Gojo literally has no win conditions
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Wait verse equalize is required for UV to work? I don't see people specify that in other Gojo matches.
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Domains can’t trap people with cursed energy, sure hits don’t register people with no ce
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It's cuz closed domains don't work on people without CE thanks to Maki's shenanigans
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Shouldn't something like that stated in their weakness? Also, I don't think verse equalize can even happen here as Saitama doesn't have anything similar to curse energy.
Saqphire
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Idk why it isn't tbh
Cursed Energy is just energy coming from negative emotions fundamentally. Saitama has been amped from negative emotions before
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Well if the weakness isn't stated in their profiles, I think domain would still work rn. Tho someone can make a CRT about it.
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Uhh serious table flip is enough, voting Saitama.
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Serious table flip would send Gojo to space
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Still wouldn't work, domain sure hit doesn't affect people without CE
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Kachon and Saitama FRA
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But the weakness isn't stated in their profiles. Someone should just make a CRT about it if we want to make Gojo's domain useless.
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A domain couldn’t contain Saitama’s energy to begin with it would burst instantly like the hyperspace gates.
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I mean yeah it isn't in his profile cuz it's not even applicable only to gojo. Gojo's domain is still useless anyways even if he can still hit saitama cuz he can't even kill him
Mostly incon with domain hitting
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Bruh fr I just came back from gooning and people already start saying domain wont work cause I didnt specify verse equalize? Ok I just did
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Incon still
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Saitama imagined his own inner universe he’d be alright
ShionAH
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bro we dont need to know that dawg
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I need to know cuz I need some
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Saitama has air and wind attacks listed on his profile which can bypass infinity.
That makes 3 diff wincons for Saitama.
That makes 3 diff wincons for Saitama.
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Gojo can do nothing close this
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Saitama FRA
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@Voidnether Youre cooked buddy
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Legit question, but since JJK treats lightspeed realistically, assuming Speed was unequalized would a character being FTL allow them to bypass infinity?
As in at this point the other character would be faster than even tachyons and therefore would be entirely breaking physics.
As in at this point the other character would be faster than even tachyons and therefore would be entirely breaking physics.
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It should bypass, especially considering the infinity has to process and select what’s being filtered.
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Because Saitama has casually shown the capability to interact with space-time folds, higher dimensional scaling, spiritual spaces, and intangible spirits. If those aren't separate abilities, but one in the same, then he would be able to interact with spiritual space-time folds. Also, more importantly, it would be funny if he could. Read below if you want a detailed breakdown.
Having multiple unexplained casual feats like this I would find it weird if he couldn't move infinity tbh, especially with verse equalization here.
First, moving space-time/higher dimensional folds via kicking and then later pulling a hyperspace gate. What is hyperspace? Well it's a fourth dimensional causeway. The gate itself is the 3-dimensional hole, which requires folding space time across unknown distances for the causeway part and may require further folding in order to manifest in a way our 3d eyes can- or just passively appear as such. That second bit is somewhat speculative, but it shows that Saitama can displace space-time folds in 3 dimensions while affecting the 4th dimensional component.
Secondly, transdimensional movement and spiritual interaction via entering the Phoenix Space. This is obviously some other kind of dimension. What kind of dimension? Well, Phoenix Man describes it as a spiritual space- which isn't far fetched- PM literally quotes the Genesis from the bible when he resurrects people "ܗܘܐ ܢܘܗܪܐ", and as we see with the ninja bros he resurrects, souls do seem to exist independent of the body. Garou's interdimensional ghost seen at the end of his fight with Saitama really hammers the existence of spirits and spiritual in OPM home.
Thirdly, Saitama is able to interact with Phoenix Man's spirit/mental image/ego/whatever when he is explicitly stated this is not possible.
So if he can move space-time folds whose 4th dimensional components infinitely transcend 3d space (mathematically speaking), travel between dimensions via brute force (which is an inquantifiable distance that could be construed as infinite) and interact with spiritual energy by proxy, I think he should be able to grab Infinity like he grabbed the hyperspace gate
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Sorry, I hadn't read through the entire thread, I just saw that question and wanted to provide a rationale.
To echo what others have said, there are three ways to interpret it:
1.) Saitama can interact with infinity and he wins
2.) Saitama can't interact with Infinity, he doesn't have CE so the surefire hit of the domain and all that doesn't work so incon
3.) Saitama does have CE via verse equalization but can't interact with Infinity, so Gojo lobotimizes him and turns him into an invincible training dummy
Scenario 3 is problematic because by making Saitama a sorceror (even if low grade!) of some kind you have to reimagine his abilities in JJK fashion, which would make things even worse for Gojo imo
I think this match-up is absurd. I mean, if we're using base Saitama from the MA arc (no alt-timeline power-up) vs standard pre-death Gojo, there is more than a 2,820,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times difference in strength here (less than 100 megatons vs 118 exafoe). I get smurfing and hax and all that, but with a power difference of that magnitude I think we should be granting Saitama some leeway with his abilities esp with verse equalization.
I certainly would say this match-up is a stomp regardless of how you try to interpret both parties' abilities
To echo what others have said, there are three ways to interpret it:
1.) Saitama can interact with infinity and he wins
2.) Saitama can't interact with Infinity, he doesn't have CE so the surefire hit of the domain and all that doesn't work so incon
3.) Saitama does have CE via verse equalization but can't interact with Infinity, so Gojo lobotimizes him and turns him into an invincible training dummy
Scenario 3 is problematic because by making Saitama a sorceror (even if low grade!) of some kind you have to reimagine his abilities in JJK fashion, which would make things even worse for Gojo imo
I think this match-up is absurd. I mean, if we're using base Saitama from the MA arc (no alt-timeline power-up) vs standard pre-death Gojo, there is more than a 2,820,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times difference in strength here (less than 100 megatons vs 118 exafoe). I get smurfing and hax and all that, but with a power difference of that magnitude I think we should be granting Saitama some leeway with his abilities esp with verse equalization.
I certainly would say this match-up is a stomp regardless of how you try to interpret both parties' abilities
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Remember when Conquest vs. Makima was a matchup? Yeah, because of the speed equalisation, Makima stomped horribly because of her hax
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well if I thought Gojo's hax would be partially effective on Saitama but not an instant win, then I wouldn't suggest we close the thread. However with that strength gap- if Saitama can tickle Gojo with the tiniest fraction of anything, it is a stomp.Remember when Conquest vs. Makima was a matchup? Yeah, because of the speed equalisation, Makima stomped horribly because of her hax
It's not like Gojo can transfer being atomized onto a Japanese citizen with contracts that don't exist in JJK
That's why I listed out the three scenarioes. The only non-stomp is scenario 2 where nobody can do anything to each other, and I personally believe in scenario 1 which is an un-add-able stomp
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A shockwave of air pressure is enough for Gojo infinity can’t filter air
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