Shibai Ōtsutsuki vs Yhwach | Boruto vs Bleach

[Foriaa]

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Attack Potency/Dura : At least Solar System level (>0.15192 MegaFoe)	Attack Potency/Dura : At least Galaxy level, Multi-Galaxy level with Blut Arterie (3.68 YottaFoe, to 36.8 Yottafoe)
Speed : At least Massively FTL (280 c), likely far higher, (432 c) with space flight speed	Speed : FTL (4.88738 c), FTL+ with Aushwalen (19.5495c)
LS : 90.815924 quintillion Metric Tons	LS : > 1.20014 million Metric Tons

• Mortal Shibai and Almighty Yhwach
• Speed is NOT equalized
• Starting Distance is 4 km's

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Holy Soul Crush diff bro.

 

[Arkenis]

Holy LS diff. Bros getting chucked outside the multiverse

 

[BoastJr]

Soloku negs both

 

[Saqphire]

Shibai blitzes and uses Energy Absorption gg

Holy Soul Crush diff bro.

Shibai's LS is too high lol

 

[Foriaa]

Is this a stomp or is the match actually viable

 

[Mbpoops]

No way shibai is beating yhwach never thought id see the day

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Shibai blitzes and uses Energy Aborption gg

Can he even absorb Reiryoku?

Shibai's LS is too high lol

Yeah but like, is that even gonna kill him? Lmao, Yhwach just comes back and Almighty ggs. Shibai at best is just gonna see the shit Yhwach can do passively and just go "hell nah"

 

[Mbpoops]

Can he even absorb Reiryoku?

with verse equalization i believe he coukd otherwise idk

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

with verse equalization i believe he coukd otherwise idk

The issue is that Reiryoku and Chakra are nothing alike. Plus if he enters within the range of ******* anything he's getting fried by 3-C-3-B pressure.

 

[Foriaa]

Can he even absorb Reiryoku?

He can shrink it

 

[Foriaa]

I would used their higher keys but this ******* Shibai has HDE

 

[Infinite9Luck]

Shibai's LS is too high lol

His LS is fully irrelevant given the massive AP gap and Soul potency

 

[karo_senpaii]

The issue is that Reiryoku and Chakra are nothing alike. Plus if he enters within the range of ******* anything he's getting fried by 3-C-3-B pressure.

It doesn't have to be alike. Karma probably still absorbs it. He can also change it fundamentally.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

It doesn't have to be alike. Karma probably still absorbs it. He can also change it fundamentally.

How long is his absorption range?

 

[Foriaa]

How long is his absorption range?

Not that long, every instance of it was like meters at most.

 

[Foriaa]

Karma probably still absorbs it.

Why would Shibai have a karma on him?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Not that long, every instance of it was like meters at most.

 

[karo_senpaii]

How long is his absorption range?

Just his immediate surroundings.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Why would Shibai have a karma on him?

Coz he hasn't ascended

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Just his immediate surroundings.

So uh, what's stopping him from getting passively melted if he tries that?

 

[Foriaa]

Coz he hasn't ascended

So? We've seen Ōtsutsuki pre ascension not have Karma's on them, Momo and Kinshiki for example

 

[karo_senpaii]

So uh, what's stopping him from getting passively melted if he tries that?

I'm not too sure of this match at this point coz for some reason shibai doesn't have soul manipulation but to answer that well it's not exactly touching him due to Daemon reflection.

So? We've seen Ōtsutsuki pre ascension not have Karma's on them, Momo and Kinshiki for example

They all have it in them. As for why they don't use it, well no idea

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I'm not too sure of this match at this point coz for some reason shibai doesn't have soul manipulation but to answer that well it's not exactly touching him due to Daemon reflection.

Daemon's reflect just gets stomped by Yhwach's casualty negation.

Also the other problem is that even if Shibai resisted Soul Crush's spiritual aspect, he's still getting shit on by the sheer AP.

 

[Foriaa]

So basically Yhwach is stomping while being 14x's slower and millions of times inferior in LS?

 

[karo_senpaii]

Daemon's reflect just gets stomped by Yhwach's casualty negation.

Does the casualty negation come with RW negation? If no then it can't

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Does the casualty negation come with RW negation? If no then it can't

The Almighty's powernull covers RW too.

 

[Foriaa]

 

[Robo432343]

Shibai has 2-A prescience he wins

 

[Infinite9Luck]

I'm not too sure of this match at this point coz for some reason shibai doesn't have soul manipulation

Even having that wouldn't change anything since he would have to have spiritual power potency comparable to Yhwach, and right now their difference in power is more than 100,000,000,000,000 millions times....

Also, Almighty would negates his abilities too.

So basically Yhwach is stomping while being 14x's slower and millions of times inferior in LS?

Soul crush doesn't care about speed, also the Almighty directly places attacks on the opponent body and you can't dodge them. So how being 14 times faster make any sense when the potency difference his quintillions times higher.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Shibai has 2-A prescience he wins

Not in this key he doesn't

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I mean the other problem is: how is Shibai even gonna incap the guy? Let alone kill.

 

[BoastJr]

Do NOT underestimate the power of LS

The Sheer Stess Factor is unmatched and is fundamental is all forms of Incap and tearing / grapples / shaking / Limited BFR / Restrain / Disarm / Lifting and so one

 

[karo_senpaii]

The Almighty's powernull covers RW too.

Can't even see such in his profile

Not in this key he doesn't

He actually does. Even kk already has it as a human

Even having that wouldn't change anything since he would have to have spiritual power potency comparable to Yhwach, and right now their difference in power is more than 100,000,000,000,000 millions times....

?? Power isn't always everything

Also, Almighty would negates his abilities too.

Almighty can't negate most , if not all of his abilities.

Do you think being 100,000,000,000,000 millions times stronger wouldn't be a factor especially when soul destruction comes into play? The match up is pretty much one sided.

Saying this after I said shibai resistance to soul manipulation isn't there is pointless isn't it?

Soul crush doesn't care about speed, also the Almighty directly places attacks on the opponent body and you can't dodge them. So how being 14 times faster make any sense when the potency difference his quintillions times higher.

Yeah bro idk what to tell you man, yhwach ain't got infinite speed.

 

[Robo432343]

Not in this key he doesn't

it doesn't separate his range into different keys if you look at his range section

 

[karo_senpaii]

I mean the other problem is: how is Shibai even gonna incap the guy? Let alone kill.

He can rewrite him totally. Yhwach has no resistance to info type 2

 

[Foriaa]

Do you think being 100,000,000,000,000 millions times stronger wouldn't be a factor especially when soul destruction comes into play?

I do, I thought perhaps Shibai having the advantage in speed with his Shinjutsu could mitigate that.

also the Almighty directly places attacks on the opponent body and you can't dodge them. So how being 14 times faster make any sense when the potency difference his quintillions times higher.

This is true, however, I'd like to see supporters respond to it, this has always been a tense matchup off-site, I'd like to see responses to Yhwach's basic kit from that end.

 

[Robo432343]

i don't see yhwach nulling 2-A prescience

 

[karo_senpaii]

I do, I thought perhaps Shibai having the advantage in speed with his Shinjutsu could mitigate that.

This is true, however, I'd like to see supporters respond to it, this has always been a tense matchup off-site, I'd like to see responses to Yhwach's basic kit from that end.

Match could work. Just harder to argue not knowing how shibai fights

 

[Foriaa]

Match could work. Just harder to argue not knowing how shibai fights

We'll see, if both sides agree to it being stomp, I'll get it closed. For now, keep arguing : )