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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

PizzaDante67 said:
Mountain lvl bleach or building lvl 5 gigajoul ichigo was something else….prime tik tok scaling
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Kubo makes his main character fight against gods, and also has someone attack this main character using two months' worth of my house electricity.

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Guys I'm currently making the sandbox for the CRT and I just realized something. Getsuga Jujisho is a pretty significant amp. It tore through Post-9 Year Yhwach's Sankt Zwinger, which most definitely also had to have Blut Vene enabled too. This means that Ichigo's GJ is 3-B and also by extension Uryu's Sternenstaub.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Guys I'm currently making the sandbox for the CRT and I just realized something. Getsuga Jujisho is a pretty significant amp. It tore through Post-9 Year Yhwach's Sankt Zwinger, which most definitely also had to have Blut Vene enabled too. This means that Ichigo's GJ is 3-B and also by extension Uryu's Sternenstaub.
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Sankt Zwinger was Described as the „ultimate defense“ so i think its reasonable to assume that blut veine has had some sort of involvement.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Guys I'm currently making the sandbox for the CRT and I just realized something. Getsuga Jujisho is a pretty significant amp. It tore through Post-9 Year Yhwach's Sankt Zwinger, which most definitely also had to have Blut Vene enabled too. This means that Ichigo's GJ is 3-B and also by extension Uryu's Sternenstaub.
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Arc's super duper old cour 3 crt sandbox was going to have it be 2x and he was hoping to find a scan for it from the cour 2 blu ray booklet of it being 2 getsugas combined.
 
PizzaDante67 said:
Sankt Zwinger was Described as the „ultimate defense“ so i think its reasonable to assume that blut veine has had some sort of involvement.
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Considering that Yhwach was getting bullied by Ichigo at this state of the fight, he 100% had Blut active, since he also made a Brown Vene in his pants from Jujisho.
 
Crobatman44 said:
Arc's super duper old cour 3 crt sandbox was going to have it be 2x and he was hoping to find a scan for it from the cour 2 blu ray booklet of it being 2 getsugas combined.
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Actually, that was from the Episode 21 midcard. Apothesis translated it for me (take that as you will since they got demoted for MTL) but that also means Getsuga Tenshou should also downscale to half of Jujisho
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
@DragonZeroNova isn't Getsuga Tensho being stated to be an equal to a Cero Oscuras means it's a 10 times amp?
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idk
where is this coming from
EDIT: If you're talking about this, then I'll be honest, I disagree that it's being compared to Oscuras (though that's what it says on the profile), since he just says Cero. The profile also compares it to how Ichigo destroys Yammy's Cero Oscuras, but in that key, it says his cero wasn't formed yet which is why he doesn't scale.

I suppose there is a way to make it 10x from that though, if you can argue it well enough lol (that would make scaling wild though ngl)
 
DragonZeroNova said:
idk
where is this coming from
EDIT: If you're talking about this, then I'll be honest, I disagree that it's being compared to Oscuras (though that's what it says on the profile), since he just says Cero. The profile also compares it to how Ichigo destroys Yammy's Cero Oscuras, but in that key, it says his cero wasn't formed yet which is why he doesn't scale.

I suppose there is a way to make it 10x from that though, if you can argue it well enough lol (that would make scaling wild though ngl)
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It would mean a LOT of backtracking, so I can probably save that elephant for later
 
GJJ is a damn beast. It plowed throught everything it was sent against.
SklaveVoll Candice strongest technique (lol)
Yhwach's Sankt Swinger got completely destroyed ,wich is stronger than blut vene.
SklaveVoll Uryu SternenStaub.

And given that regular GT to the face didn't seem to phase Yhwach at all with Blut, GJJ is a very strong amp.

And Cero Creciente will be above by default
 
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Shibai Ōtsutsuki vs Yhwach | Boruto vs Bleach

Attack Potency/Dura : At least Solar System level (>0.15192 MegaFoe)Attack Potency/Dura : At least Galaxy level, Multi-Galaxy level with Blut Arterie (3.68 YottaFoe, to 36.8 Yottafoe) Speed : At least Massively FTL (280 c), likely far higher, (432 c) with space flight speedSpeed : FTL (4.88738...
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could be stomp, idk
 
Foriaa said:
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Shibai Ōtsutsuki vs Yhwach | Boruto vs Bleach

Attack Potency/Dura : At least Solar System level (>0.15192 MegaFoe)Attack Potency/Dura : At least Galaxy level, Multi-Galaxy level with Blut Arterie (3.68 YottaFoe, to 36.8 Yottafoe) Speed : At least Massively FTL (280 c), likely far higher, (432 c) with space flight speedSpeed : FTL (4.88738...
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could be stomp, idk
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Tips for Yhwach matches

1. No resistance against SC is instant stomp.
2. No way to stop his revives is gg.
3. Nothing against Almighty mechanics is gg.
 
omnipotence is bound by the future kashin koji could see it in his future visions their for the almighty should no issue countering it. Yhwach already nulled reality warping from ichibei aswell.

10 paths future sight is a far cry from the almighty. 10 paths requires a few days to update if the future has been changed it will not see that changed future until a few days. The almighty also can know all powers aswell.
 
ichimojii said:
omnipotence is bound by the future kashin koji could see it in his future visions their for the almighty should no issue countering it. Yhwach already nulled reality warping from ichibei aswell.

10 paths future sight is a far cry from the almighty. 10 paths requires a few days to update if the future has been changed it will not see that changed future until a few days. The almighty also can know all powers aswell.
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i mean you can make the argument that the almighty can't see ryuken giving uryu the arrow to use against him and more.
as for the match shibai probably stomps in my opinion.
 
Trihexa102 said:
i mean you can make the argument that the almighty can't see ryuken giving uryu the arrow to use against him and more.
as for the match shibai probably stomps in my opinion.
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The reason for that is unknown we know they had special material made to counter the almighty and yhwachs powers in general.

Why do you think Shibai wins?
 
Trihexa102 said:
i mean you can make the argument that the almighty can't see ryuken giving uryu the arrow to use against him and more.
as for the match shibai probably stomps in my opinion.
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How would shibai win? Like The Almighty, Soul Crush and the horrendous Ap difference gives shibai no real chance of winning.

I can’t wait for cour 4 to happen and finally have Yhwach get his deserved upgrade. Soul King Yhwach vs Post-Ascension Shibai would probably be just as one sided but the debate itself might be entertaining.
 
Wait shouldn't Yhwach's Almighty precogntion be 4D as well cause his statements match Prescience like seeing infinite possible futures? I could have sworn he had it before.
 
Torsin said:
Wait shouldn't Yhwach's Almighty be 4D as well cause his statements match Prescience like seeing infinite possible futures? I could have sworn he had it before.
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You could argue even more tbh. I’m Pretty sure both use the same „countless possibilities“ (or did they mention actual infinite possibilities in the boruto manga somewhere?) thingy but the difference with The Almighty is that it views them from a Higher Point.

I once asked if we could argue 5D Precognition based on that but someone mentioned that we‘d have to prove that these possibilities are infinite in length or sum like that.
 
PizzaDante67 said:
How would shibai win? Like The Almighty, Soul Crush and the horrendous Ap difference gives shibai no real chance of winning.

I can’t wait for cour 4 to happen and finally have Yhwach get his deserved upgrade. Soul King Yhwach vs Post-Ascension Shibai would probably be just as one sided but the debate itself might be entertaining.
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reflects it and rewrites ywhach with omnipotence.
 
Torsin said:
Wait shouldn't Yhwach's Almighty precogntion be 4D as well cause his statements match Prescience like seeing infinite possible futures? I could have sworn he had it before.
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both are probably wrong, the kanji for both are countless not infinite.
 
PizzaDante67 said:
The Almighty has Causality manipulation negation and would already see everything shibai tries in the future and proceed to nullify his entire arsenal
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i would argue it's an ability beyond what yhwach can negate based on the feats of reflection abilities in bleach like anti-thesis, plus shibai could blitx before a neuron fires in his brain to alter anything.
 
Trihexa102 said:
i would argue it's an ability beyond what yhwach can negate based on the feats of reflection abilities in bleach like anti-thesis, plus shibai could blitx before a neuron fires in his brain to alter anything.
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How tho? Yhwach straight up negated Orihime‘s Causality manipulation which does far more than attack reflection.
 
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