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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

This obv won't work if this dude resists RTZ tho, but if he resists RTZ why is this even a match, idk I didn't check the profile.
I don't know for sure, but dude summons beings with layers into 1-A at least, and I don't think they would care that much about RTZ.
Restricting summoning would defeat the whole purpose of matchup. Instead I could make it so happens afar from hills and mountains(he summons only there).

Well he can't kill him then, but incap is always a option depending on the dude's kit.
Yeah, only wincon is incap.

you'll need even crazier Existence Erasure, like Mind/Soul Erasure,
Mind erasure technically would work, erasing his soul wouldn't
 
Crazy ass chapter this week, oh my god. More evidence that Jodio's rain involves gravity and that it's heavy enough to bust through the steel hull of a yacht to flood it, and HOLY SHIT
we get Howler's stand and it looks phenomenal. Its ability also looks broken as hell, spreading mist that seemingly allows him to jettison even tiny objects to maim soldiers and make him invincible to bullets, and also letting him escape in a flash.
 
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Crazy ass chapter this week, oh my god. More evidence that Jodio's rain involves gravity and that it's heavy enough to bust through the steel hull of a yacht to flood it, and HOLY SHIT
we get Howler's stand and it looks phenomenal. Its ability also looks broken as hell, spreading mist that seemingly allows him to jettison even tiny objects to maim soldiers and make him invincible to bullets, and also letting him escape in a flash.
Damn where's the discussion at. Would have thought there'd be talk over NRs rain busting through the ship with sheer gravity.
 
Damn where's the discussion at. Would have thought there'd be talk over NRs rain busting through the ship with sheer gravity.
I'm kinda interested in their's a way to calc that, but I'm not sure how exactly. It's like Sheila E's PHF boat feat all over again.
 
 
Shouldn't Stands have Limited Durability Negation (Attacking internal structures) as Jotaro can squeeze his own heart to both stop and start it. And has done it to another person, Joseph. So just crush it, or any other organ.
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I'm not really sure. Not only has Jotaro never used it to fight anyone, but we've never really seen anyone else go for that strategy. I think its fine just to leave stands as intangible, and then the stand which do explicitly attack internal structures can get dura-neg.
 
I think so.
Normally doing that won't make a sense, since i don't think his intangibility would allow him to phase through other stands and SP is so strong both humans and vampires are getting punched through anyway.
But if he met an opponent who was too strong for SP to hurt normally and their power didn't come from a stand then he could use it.
 
Yeah, that's why Stands in particular can have Limited Durability Negation due to their Selective Intangibility. Ofc only to entities that don't have Selective Intangibility/NPI for that sort of stuff, like Stand USERS.
 
Status of 8-B part 1 D? IIRC there was plans of it after almost 2 tons feat of Jonathan corpse
 
Status of 8-B part 1 D? IIRC there was plans of it after almost 2 tons feat of Jonathan corpse
It all lies with Chariot right now, who's finishing up with his Raiden CRT in the coming days. He probably has the details on what that actually entails though. Don't remember if he was actually planning 8-B for Part 1 specifically. Iirc it was a trickle down thing like how we got 8-B for joseph.
 
 
Why is Kars speed not something like "Subsonic travel speed, MFTL combat speed" instead of current "MFTL speed".
WHY IS EVERYONE IN BATTLE TENDENCY IS MFTL SPEED?
"Caesar, you can't save JoJo. Even with your MFTL travel speed distance between us is too great"

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"He can barely fly at MFTL speeds, thanks god this plane is MFTL+."
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Seriously, what is reason for giving them MFTL travel speed, when anybody can find dozens anti feats against it?
 
Status of 8-B part 1 D? IIRC there was plans of it after almost 2 tons feat of Jonathan corpse
There is no plans of 8-B Part 1.
Just really high High 8-C (9+ tons), unless Will magically gets over 0.31 tons (doubt it, highest I got was 0.28).
Why is Kars speed not something like "Subsonic travel speed, MFTL combat speed" instead of current "MFTL speed".
Because he's outdated af, you've been told that, and you're asking why?
Outside of like 12 profiles JoJo is outdated, Kars will continue to be outdated until Part 3 and 1 are finished because he scales directly.
WHY IS EVERYONE IN BATTLE TENDENCY IS MFTL SPEED?
"Caesar, you can't save JoJo. Even with your MFTL travel speed distance between us is too great"

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This is legit dumb dude.
"Caesar, you won't make it in time to intercept the fight between two characters equal to, or greater than, your own speed, you will never make it in time, you have to travel a stated like 500m more distance while they don't have to travel at all, that is hundreds of interactions between them by the time you get there if you're both moving at the same speed, you are to late, you don't have enough time now they're already mid-combat".
"He can barely fly at MFTL speeds, thanks god this plane is MFTL+."
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Seriously, what is reason for giving them MFTL travel speed, when anybody can find dozens anti feats against it?
The fact they don't, nobody says they can run at MFTL speeds outside of bursts? Why are you yapping? They have MFTL burst movement, combat, reactions, and perceptions. See Jotaro for an example.

Ignoring the Kars thing is actually disingenuous (he can fly faster, Joseph just assumes he can't and was wrong).
Kars himself has feats that blow that out of the water anyway so idk why you're cherry picking a scene that isn't even true, there's like 3 random hypersonic to HH movement feats for them in that same part just off the top of my head so it sure as hell isn't subsonic.
 
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There is no plans of 8-B Part 1.
Just really high High 8-C, unless Will magically gets over 0.31 tons.
? His profile states that he scales to Jack the Ripper(knocked him back and deflected him back). Jack feat of tearing up tunnel has many values, but verse page shows it's value as 0.36 tonnes. 1.895 + 0.36 = 2.255 tonnes, x5 of this is 11.275 tonnes (8-B).
Because he's outdated af, you've been told that, and you're asking why?
Ok then. Don't take other images too seriously
The fact they don't, nobody says they can run at MFTL speeds outside of bursts? Why are you yapping? They have MFTL burst movement, combat, reactions, and perceptions. See Jotaro for an example.
Profile says such, due to being outdated (You can ignore yap about speed, it's irrelevant, now
 
? His profile states that he scales to Jack the Ripper(knocked him back and deflected him back). Jack feat of tearing up tunnel has many values, but verse page shows it's value as 0.36 tonnes. 1.895 + 0.36 = 2.255 tonnes, x5 of this is 11.275 tonnes (8-B).
Yeah and Will is outdated af, and that calc needs to be redone using better reference sheets, models, sizes, and more.
We were even looking at a stage rip to get the tunnel surface area and debris pile from a game rip.
That 0.28 I mentioned is the recalc's upper bound unless I'm just missing something. And that's being generous as Will isn't equal to Jonathan either.

How it works is Dio is x5 Jonthan + Will.
But Jonathan and Will are not the same.
Jonathan is like 1.85t. Will is much weaker physically, his cap is JtR, if JtR is below 0.3 tons, that makes the combined might x 5 drop below 11 tons.

1.85 + 0.28 (x5) = 10.65 Tons, just barely under 8-B. And that's the high end, tbh it might be as low as around 0.20 tons.
 
MFTL characters seem silly to me now but only because Modulo has reworked my brain, I understand that fiction is fiction still
 
MFTL characters seem silly to me now but only because Modulo has reworked my brain, I understand that fiction is fiction still
Some days I wish we didn't have the one Hanged Man feat, cause we could just sit on the half-dozen other FTL-FTL+ feats so mfs would shut up about it. MFTL is lowkey overkill for most VS matches.
 
Wait till chat learns about the mecha genre.
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