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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Buraqibear said:
Are you guys serious? Unlike Dabura, Gojo has actual knowledge of the existence of Shikigami and has more than one type of attacks unlike Dabura, so even if Maho adapts to Infinity, that's fine since Gojo has Blue and even if it adapts to Blue that's fine since he has Red, if it adapts to Red, Gojo still has Domain to hold it in place and Purple to one shot it.
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i wish people could read
i specified "no prior knowledge" and u start ur reply with "gojo has prior knowledge"
 
Zabazab said:
He explicitly never challenged Ryu since he only heard of him as a rumour at the end of his life, they lived quite far away from eachother. So there's no way to put Kashimo above Ryu, while Ryu has significantly better feats.
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The only feats you're deriving for Ryu is from Yuta, which is contentious as to how he would be above Base Kashimo, let alone MBA lmao. And that's IF we would agree Yuta wasn't holding back there

Meanwhile MBA Kashimo actually has Sukuna feats, unlike the mf who got one-shot by him
 
Arkenis said:
When was this said?
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Not really said, just pretty easy to infer. Kashimo was never fulfilled fighting anyone and never had fun during his lifetime, but he pretty obviously had the time of his life fighting Hakari. I mean, Hakari was pretty blatantly overpowering Kashimo too for the most part.
 
Arkenis said:
If that's the case, that's dumb since Hakari only good due to rct.
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Yeah, I'm still right though. People in the Edo era were getting fried by Kashimo's CE alone and they were so weak Kashimo never had fun fighting them but Hakari pushed em enough and he genuinely had fun. Plus Hakari was pretty consistently flinging Kashimo around as they fought, I doubt people Kashimo considered boring can say the same.
 
ShroobWasTaken said:
Yeah, I'm still right though. People in the Edo era were getting fried by Kashimo's CE alone and they were so weak Kashimo never had fun fighting them but Hakari pushed em enough and he genuinely had fun. Plus Hakari was pretty consistently flinging Kashimo around as they fought, I doubt people Kashimo considered boring can say the same.
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Discount Saitama ass
 
ShroobWasTaken said:
Not really said, just pretty easy to infer. Kashimo was never fulfilled fighting anyone and never had fun during his lifetime, but he pretty obviously had the time of his life fighting Hakari. I mean, Hakari was pretty blatantly overpowering Kashimo too for the most part.
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Ngl, it just reads like Kashimo finally got to fight a punching bag that can keep coming back after be destroyed. Doubt it means much about what Kashimo's seeking.
 
ShroobWasTaken said:
Yeah, I'm still right though. People in the Edo era were getting fried by Kashimo's CE alone and they were so weak Kashimo never had fun fighting them but Hakari pushed em enough and he genuinely had fun. Plus Hakari was pretty consistently flinging Kashimo around as they fought, I doubt people Kashimo considered boring can say the same.
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They were getting fried by the same thing Hakari got fried by. Like I said before, Kashimo had fun cuz its someone who can keep coming back.
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Arkenis said:
Kashimo~JP Hakari>Yuta~Ryu
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(Sheer output)
Ryu>Yuta>Kashimo>JP Hakari
(Actual strength)
Yuta>Ryu>JP Hakari>Kashimo (bc he refuses to use MBA)
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Saqphire said:
The only feats you're deriving for Ryu is from Yuta, which is contentious as to how he would be above Base Kashimo, let alone MBA lmao.
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You don't even need to bring up Yuta for this.

We know Ryu has the highest output of all the players, meaning he has more firepower than Kashimo by a wide margin, and can pretty much ignore paralysis as just some numbness. Then there's the fact that he actually has a Domain Expansion. HWB isn't gonna save Kashimo from sure-hit Granité Blasts.

We have no idea how much stronger MBA makes Kashimo since he just got killed by Regular Dismantle a chapter after using it. He's also not gonna use it against anyone but Sukuna.
 
Zabazab said:
Then there's the fact that he actually has a Domain Expansion. HWB isn't gonna save Kashimo from sure-hit Granité Blasts.
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It will neutralize it. And Kashimo just has to land a couple hits to get a discharge and boom Domain gets destroyed from the outside.

(Sheer output)
Ryu>Yuta>Kashimo>JP Hakari
(Actual strength)
Yuta>Ryu>JP Hakari>Kashimo (bc he refuses to use MBA)
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Wdym actual strength?
 
Zabazab said:
He explicitly never challenged Ryu since he only heard of him as a rumour at the end of his life, they lived quite far away from eachother. So there's no way to put Kashimo above Ryu, while Ryu has significantly better feats.
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Ryu calls the leftovers of what Kashimo was cooking as worthy opponents. So I don't think People Kashimo fought were any weak.
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Zabazab said:
You don't even need to bring up Yuta for this.

We know Ryu has the highest output of all the players, meaning he has more firepower than Kashimo by a wide margin, and can pretty much ignore paralysis as just some numbness.
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If you're already separating output from actual strength, then you can't really infer output to say how Ryu would win against Kashimo in an actual fight. Knowing this, Sukuna's own acknowledgement of his strength is enough to say Kashimo would be above Ryu as I mentioned before because Sukuna fought both of them.

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In fact, Sukuna just saw Ryu as a pebble on the road but he didn't see Kashimo as that, he was acknowledging his precense and everything.

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Zabazab said:
Then there's the fact that he actually has a Domain Expansion. HWB isn't gonna save Kashimo from sure-hit Granité Blasts
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That domain expansion has zero info on it's refinement and compability so you cannot infer that it would just break through Hollow Wicker Basket, especially when the idea of it is to nullify sure hits in the first place. In fact, there has been zero occasions where a sure hit negged a HWB here so that's just baseless to say here.
Zabazab said:
We have no idea how much stronger MBA makes Kashimo since he just got killed by Regular Dismantle a chapter after using it.
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How do you know those were regular ass Dismantles? We didn't see him use the chant but that doesn't mean he didn't do it off-screen. Also, those Dismantles look very similar to his WCS, I would really like to see just one instance where a normal Dismantle looked like that
Zabazab said:
He's also not gonna use it against anyone but Sukuna.
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And do you know why he wouldn't use it against anyone other than Sukuna? Hint hint: They literally say it's because of strength. Also, him not using it is irrelevant when it's just comparing that form against other sorcerers
EldemadeDityjon said:
Ryu calls the leftovers of what Kashimo was cooking as worthy opponents. So I don't think People Kashimo fought were any weak.
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Worthy opponents according to Ryu, yeah. They could be cannon fodder according to Kashimo but not Ryu, which is just a downscale for him lmao.
 
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Arkenis said:
Wdym actual strength?
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How strong they are in an actual fight. Like, I'd put Character A, who is only half as strong as Character B, above B if A also had potent regeneration.

Arkenis said:
It will neutralize it. And Kashimo just has to land a couple hits to get a discharge and boom Domain gets destroyed from the outside.
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A single Granité Blast is gonna be plenty to blow it away, the difference in output is significant. Only Sukuna can maintain HWB's output while fighting thanks to his 4 arms.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Ryu calls the leftovers of what Kashimo was cooking as worthy opponents. So I don't think People Kashimo fought were any weak.
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They lived in totally separate parts of the country with like a 60 year age difference between them. The sorcerers born after Kashimo's lifetime, who he never had a chance to fight, would just be stronger.

Saqphire said:
How do you know those were regular ass Dismantles?
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Because Sukuna cannot fire a net of world-bisecting Dismantes, he can only fire one at a time following his chant & handsign and specifying its direction with his palm. He also never, ever does chanting off-screen throughout the entire raid.

Saqphire said:
And do you know why he wouldn't use it against anyone other than Sukuna?
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Because I have read Tokyo Colony No.2
 
Hey, don't know what yall yapping about, but the difference in respect for sukuna can be because of MBA and base Kashimo (the one who would have fought Ryu) would also be seen as a "peble" since we know he is at most HV level like Ryu or yall saying Ryu beats MBA?
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
We slander megumi, the depressed teen, no one's the exception
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Megumi's depression isn't a point of reference to slander tbf. Honestly, the ENTIRE Zenin Clan could get put on fraud watch. With as many years the clan has been around and being the only clan of the big 3 to get expanded upon properly, they don't really have a claim to fame other than Mahoraga, which no one ever tamed. The only person that did wasn't even a Zenin and for a clan that heavily valued CTs and CE, them getting killed off by someone with none is hella ironic.

It's always "if" and "when", never "is" with them. Even ******* Naoya falls under that because IF he used a weapon he'd be far better off than with those tickle fists.
 
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