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Wuthering Waves Discussion Thread

EldemadeDityjon said:
Skill issues
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How its skill issue when it's literally hardware issue.
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So overall, this looks like a pretty significant power-up. We gained Plot Manipulation, moon-to-planetary level feats, and what appears to be a fairly clear 5D showing. With that in mind, I think Aleph-1 could reasonably be placed at Low 1-C????
 
IStar0thh said:
So overall, this looks like a pretty significant power-up. We gained Plot Manipulation, moon-to-planetary level feats, and what appears to be a fairly clear 5D showing. With that in mind, I think Aleph-1 could reasonably be placed at Low 1-C????
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His true form, probably, idk about the one sealed tho
 
IStar0thh said:
So overall, this looks like a pretty significant power-up. We gained Plot Manipulation, moon-to-planetary level feats, and what appears to be a fairly clear 5D showing. With that in mind, I think Aleph-1 could reasonably be placed at Low 1-C????
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what is the 5D argument and why isnt he high 1-b!?@#$!?$
 
AP feat
When you look closely at the planet, you can see the lights of civilization. Then, just before he smashes it, this phrase appears: “The mission has become an eternal shackle.” That is when Segilum destroys Solaris 3—or the presumethe planet in that space.
 
Shiraito983 said:
AP feat
When you look closely at the planet, you can see the lights of civilization. Then, just before he smashes it, this phrase appears: “The mission has become an eternal shackle.” That is when Segilum destroys Solaris 3—or the presumethe planet in that space.
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Actually, I rewatched the scene, isn't the planet giga small tho?
 
KingOfDarknessBelow said:
Yea It's also inside the exostrider and comparing it to rover and Aemeath it doesn't look that big at all
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Being inside the Exostrider doesn’t really mean much if space itself is divided. On top of that, its apparent size varies between shots—sometimes it looks larger, other times smaller. That strongly suggests it’s just an animation inconsistency. At the very least, I think we should assume a small planet rather than anything smaller.
 
IStar0thh said:
Being inside the Exostrider doesn’t really mean much if space itself is divided. On top of that, its apparent size varies between shots—sometimes it looks larger, other times smaller. That strongly suggests it’s just an animation inconsistency. At the very least, I think we should assume a small planet rather than anything smaller.
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Nah, even with the wider shot, meaning the cinematic, it's nowhere near planet-sized? The whole point of Sigilum is Aemeath's view on Rover regarding his mission, feeling, pain etc, the whole "I destroy the world instead of protecting it" is just the accomplishment of that, it doesn't need to be a true planet or whatever. And I'm sure that with a calc, it would amount to way less than the actual size of the thingy tbf
 
I think we can create a profile for Aleph-1 with relatively little difficulty. In Aemeath’s quest, he explicitly states that not even the entire universe would satisfy him, and it’s also implied that he has already devoured other timelines. Because of that, a 2-B to Low 1-C scaling should be fairly easy to justify and get approved.
As for the other scalings, I think both Rover and Aemeath should comfortably scale to planetary levels, especially if the black hole feat ends up being approved. Additionally, it’s stated that the Etheric Sea—the phenomenon associated with Ovathrax—swallowed an entire planet and was capable of extending to other regions of space.
Regarding the higher-dimensional arguments, we can point to Chisa’s quest, which explicitly mentions temporal dimensions in the plural immediately after referencing the third dimension. Interpreting this as implying at least a fifth dimension seems reasonable. On top of that, we have recent statements about Aleph-1 existing in a higher plane of existence, references to the Six, and the fact that Remnant Energy is described as transcending time and space by default.
What do you all think?
 
IStar0thh said:
I think we can create a profile for Aleph-1 with relatively little difficulty. In Aemeath’s quest, he explicitly states that not even the entire universe would satisfy him, and it’s also implied that he has already devoured other timelines. Because of that, a 2-B to Low 1-C scaling should be fairly easy to justify and get approved.
As for the other scalings, I think both Rover and Aemeath should comfortably scale to planetary levels, especially if the black hole feat ends up being approved. Additionally, it’s stated that the Etheric Sea—the phenomenon associated with Ovathrax—swallowed an entire planet and was capable of extending to other regions of space.
Regarding the higher-dimensional arguments, we can point to Chisa’s quest, which explicitly mentions temporal dimensions in the plural immediately after referencing the third dimension. Interpreting this as implying at least a fifth dimension seems reasonable. On top of that, we have recent statements about Aleph-1 existing in a higher plane of existence, references to the Six, and the fact that Remnant Energy is described as transcending time and space by default.
What do you all think?
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Creating the aleph 1 profile is fine, I think, as long as we separate the true form from the one in Lahai-Roi. (and also as long as someone has enough time to do so)

I don't think the statement about the universe is fair. I would take it with a grain of salt since it seemed more about "even if he DID swallow everything, that wouldn't stop it.", It doesn't mean that he can do it in one go, tho.

What about other timelines?? Where is it stated? The voidspace is about intertwinning past, present and future. I don't think there was any mention of parallel worlds? (If so, send the scan pls)

Higher dimensions are fine. Chisa + the Voidspace + I think there was something about the energy of the Threnodian of Lahai-Roi being similar to the energy Rover felt in Honami?

Rest I can't say. Although giving him HDE is a minimum, I think.
 
SweetDao said:
Nah, even with the wider shot, meaning the cinematic, it's nowhere near planet-sized? The whole point of Sigilum is Aemeath's view on Rover regarding his mission, feeling, pain etc, the whole "I destroy the world instead of protecting it" is just the accomplishment of that, it doesn't need to be a true planet or whatever. And I'm sure that with a calc, it would amount to way less than the actual size of the thingy tbf
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Even if we assume it isn’t the size of a real planet, it would still scale far above what we currently have—at least moon-level, if not continental—so that’s already a meaningful upgrade.
Also Dao, could you please look for the CN version of this?
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Perhaps we could use this image and ask someone to calculate it. Additionally, couldn’t this support an even greater speed feat? It appears to have circled the entire planet within seconds.
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I alr have someone working on the calc, I also agree it's probably not planet level but it's blatantly a moon at bare minimum
 
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IStar0thh said:
So overall, this looks like a pretty significant power-up. We gained Plot Manipulation, moon-to-planetary level feats, and what appears to be a fairly clear 5D showing. With that in mind, I think Aleph-1 could reasonably be placed at Low 1-C????
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Yeah, for it's true self we can
 
SweetDao said:
It's inside a weird space, so we know for sure, could also be some sort of hallucination given the context, idk... You might need to play it first to fully understand what happens (or watch the boss fight cinematics)
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If it was an illusion or hallucination there would be no reason for it to fly to it and physically destroy it, I think it's pretty blatantly a physical thing
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
If it was an illusion or hallucination there would be no reason for it to fly to it and physically destroy it, I think it's pretty blatantly a physical thing
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No I meant like, it destroy the thing but it is obvious not a true one, as in, the actual real size.

Also you can see it come from the ground little by little during the fight (before he destroys it) it will definitely get some good calc, but nowhere near high levels imo
 
SweetDao said:
No I meant like, it destroy the thing but it is obvious not a true one, as in, the actual real size.

Also you can see it come from the ground little by little during the fight (before he destroys it) it will definitely get some good calc, but nowhere near high levels imo
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KE about to turn moon busting feat into star level shi 😭
 
Well, idk if it will be accepted by calc member, but if they are fine with the feat itself, it will be good for me
 
IStar0thh said:
No problem, thanks bro.
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I found it.
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Raw :
星海的記憶

寰廓無垠的空間侵吞著對時間的感知，恆久重複的時間具有同等效力。遙遠的漂泊未至盡頭，啟程的座標記已剝落，無限可能性坍縮至唯一的下一刻，仍可稱之為奇蹟，不必返航。

MTL :
Memory of the Sea of Stars

The boundless, all-encompassing expanse devours one’s perception of time; time, endlessly repeating, comes to possess the same weight. The distant drifting has yet to reach its end; the coordinate marks of departure have already worn away. Infinite possibilities collapse into a single next moment—still something that may be called a miracle, with no need to return.
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This might not be 100% accurate due to the OCR, but the rough idea is here. Basically similar to the OTL.

Edit: I don't know if "Sea of Stars" is an accurate translation, but when I translated the whole stuff that Aemeath told us about Aleph-1, the OTL chose "universe" instead of "Sea of Stars", so in any case, both seem to refer to the universe as a whole.
 
Is the current universe considered infinite? If not, can't we use what is written above to make it so? I don't think that changes anything in the scaling, but since it was a loading screen, it seems to be accurate (unless someone wants to argue poetic language, but iirc, there were other similar statements elsewhere)

Also, do we consider Voidspace as one of the "higher dimensions" mentioned in Chisa's quest or something different entirely?
 
SweetDao said:
Is the current universe considered infinite? If not, can't we use what is written above to make it so? I don't think that changes anything in the scaling, but since it was a loading screen, it seems to be accurate (unless someone wants to argue poetic language, but iirc, there were other similar statements elsewhere)
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It's considered just typical universe sized, at the moment afaik. As for using what's written there to prove it is, ig? I'm not sure how we'd draw a line to the two though, but if you have any ideas
SweetDao said:
Also, do we consider Voidspace as one of the "higher dimensions" mentioned in Chisa's quest or something different entirely?
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I would say it's something different, granted there is no official information to back this up at the moment. I'm saying this based off my experience with Kuro writing, typically when they do higher dimensions with "other civilizations" they separate them. If you guys wanna argue that voidspace is one of the higher dimensions that the Honami Lament cuts through, I'll be inclined to agree since again, no proof to suggest otherwise other than my own personal opinion
 
I have some changes I want to apply, but since they're really minor I rather wait till one of the calcs we have gets accepted so I can put it in one CRT for efficiencies sake. In the meantime, while I do want to make 3.x profiles I think it's best for me to finish most the others first

Edit: 4 stars aside...
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
I have some changes I want to apply, but since they're really minor I rather wait till one of the calcs we have gets accepted so I can put it in one CRT for efficiencies sake. In the meantime, while I do want to make 3.x profiles I think it's best for me to finish most the others first

Edit: 4 stars aside...
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What changes?
 
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