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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Falling should be included in the upcoming Crt considering her performance against Fear Boost Yoru
 
GunshyFever said:
Alright, so considering a scenario where the movie canon thread gets rejected, I had a moment where I was like, "Hey, why don't we just calculate feats that were already in the manga, but that the movie gives us a better look at and are not wanked or exaggerated?" So I am going to cherry pick those scenes regarding speed and we can determine calcs and results from there on.

Feats (Uncalculated):

Feats (Calculated):
Yeah, 3 feats BUT consistent numbers. If these get created and evaled along with the Kishibe feat and both of these. We should be good to go.
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i got the uncalculated ones calculated except movie version of fiend form beam dashes fast toward rezee

Rezee one, manga and movie, and manga Beam one

the rezee dashes behind makima ones are very slow, barely subsonic in highballs, but the manga beam one does get manga rezee to Hypersonic +

id do the Movie Beam one but honestly idk how to calc the sparks of the explosion that rezee previously made that Rezee and Beam were moving faster than them, thats likely the highest speed shown detail of the feat

even if the rezee dashes behind makima ones may be too slow for even supportive calculations, i believe @Acertainbcplayer could use it for his Angel throws his spear real fast calc, as Damage3245 had the problem of he assumming without calcing that Rezee was moving at subsonics speeds in that feat
 
Bruh said:
Supersonic+ jail no more !! Wonder if Denji could downscale for somewhat keeping up with a more serious Reze while low on blood ?
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i cant fully recall how the fight went, but he fought much better against her when angel gave him more blood from a death woman, as he being low on blood was what made him lose so easily to rezee at first, and he could make that surprise attack to rezee by getting her in water

but post broadcast denji and later keys definitively do scale higher

Eljoaki5 made another Hypersonic+ rezee calc but higher speed one, depends which one of our calcs get accepted, but id guess at least one would
 
Why is Fami such a bum 😭 her power is like a shittier version of the death swords angel could forge in the sense the can also spell instant death, but from a longer rangeeeeee 😭😭😭
 
Epiccheev said:
Why is Fami such a bum 😭 her power is like a shittier version of the death swords angel could forge in the sense the can also spell instant death, but from a longer rangeeeeee 😭😭😭
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actually what would happen if famine devil and angel devil touched hands? would fami lose the lifespan of her body or angel lose his live energy? or their abilities are ignored because of they being devils? idk if Denji and Power resisting the doll devil transforming then into dolls means all devils abilities are immune to other devils

i think horsemen can age because nayuta seemed to grow taller from part 1 and part 2 and expected to eventually turn into an adult, so they have a lifespan
 
Breadbear83 said:
i think horsemen can age because nayuta seemed to grow taller from part 1 and part 2 and expected to eventually turn into an adult, so they have a
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I would say devils don't have a lifespan, but they can grow. Typhoon Devil for example was weaker because it was a baby, and that's the reason Denji could beat it.
 
Wall level Yoru, peak.
Slander that fraud, bum is only good for upscaling
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Thinking about this topic again, but should we reconsider if the Darkness Devil possesses regeneration nullification when he uses his deconstruction attacks (or regular attacks general).
 
GunshyFever said:
Thinking about this topic again, but should we reconsider if the Darkness Devil possesses regeneration nullification when he uses his deconstruction attacks (or regular attacks general).
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Denji still regenerated anyway after getting out there (and Quanxi, just as a head alone could regenerate her whole body after her zombie girlfriend triggered her transformation), plus power regenerating/reattaching 2 arms, for some reason angel devil couldn't just regenerate his hands, which I believe it's related to his will to live but I don't got statements supporting that


None of the people that the darkness devil attacked had a crazy regeneration where they would have just regenerated their arms in the seconds they were there, not without any blood, makima got an arm broken but it was fine later because of her devil contract

So I don't think he has regeneration nullification

Edit: look at chapter 65, first denji doesnt have his arms, but then beam gives him some blood from his lost arm and pulls the chainsaw trigger, then denji jumps to the darkness devil with his arms already healed, not even needing to get out of there
 
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I really do believe that hybrids are an outlier here. Their regeneration is shown to be much more potent than that of fiends and regular devils. Denji and Quanxi recovering from regen neg should not be a surprise when taking into account how resilient hybrids are stated to be in general. So we could just go off a baseline and give them resistance to regeneration nullification.

And yes, Princi and Angel are full fledged devils and like the Bat Devil, they should have been able to regenerate their limbs. Both of them continued on missing limbs permanently, with Angel stating that he has no arms despite having regeneration. Regarding the idea that Angel could have gotten blood from Public Safety to get back his arms and no, he was not suicidal, considering he wanted to go visit Makima to see how both he and Aki could move forward in order to help Aki stay alive.

Makima is the only outlier here and we can also just give her contract a sub category of resistance to regeneration negation.

That explains why Public Safety had to attempt to re-attach Angel's arms, which failed. Considering fiends generally have weaker regeneration than devils, it would not be a stretch to say that Power had her arms re-attached as well, along with multiple Public Safety agents.

I believe that regen negation for DD is valid here.
 
GunshyFever said:
I really do believe that hybrids are an outlier here. Their regeneration is shown to be much more potent than that of fiends and regular devils. Denji and Quanxi recovering from regen neg should not be a surprise when taking into account how resilient hybrids are stated to be in general. So we could just go off a baseline and give them resistance to regeneration nullification.

And yes, Princi and Angel are full fledged devils and like the Bat Devil, they should have been able to regenerate their limbs. Both of them continued on missing limbs permanently, with Angel stating that he has no arms despite having regeneration. Regarding the idea that Angel could have gotten blood from Public Safety to get back his arms and no, he was not suicidal, considering he wanted to go visit Makima to see how both he and Aki could move forward in order to help Aki stay alive.

Makima is the only outlier here and we can also just give her contract a sub category of resistance to regeneration negation.

That explains why Public Safety had to attempt to re-attach Angel's arms, which failed. Considering fiends generally have weaker regeneration than devils, it would not be a stretch to say that Power had her arms re-attached as well, along with multiple Public Safety agents.

I believe that regen negation for DD is valid here.
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Maybe Darkness does indeed have regen null, but that doesnt necessarily mean Hybrids have a resistance to it. Could just mean that Darkness regen null reaches Low Mid (the level that full fledged devils are generally at) while Hybrids and Makima have abilities that reaches High Mid lv of regen so the abilties cant reach them
 
If something stops you from regenerating in general, regardless of the level of regeneration you have, you will not regenerate. So I doubt that, best to move with the narrative that Hybrid regeneration is more resilient, and Makima's contract helps deal with that as well.
 
GunshyFever said:
If something stops you from regenerating in general, regardless of the level of regeneration you have, you will not regenerate. So I doubt that, best to move with the narrative that Hybrid regeneration is more resilient, and Makima's contract helps deal with that as well.
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By that logic there's no reason for profiles on the wiki to have "Regeneration Nullification ( Low Mid/Mid/etc)" on their profile but they still do, in fact the ones that dont often gets called out for being incomplete and NLF, the levels are there for a reason. Something that only shown to negate Low Mid regen isnt gonna be affecting Low-High or the like, and similarly if you have High-Mid regen you should be free of any consequences of that lower level regen suffer.
 
GunshyFever said:
I really do believe that hybrids are an outlier here. Their regeneration is shown to be much more potent than that of fiends and regular devils. Denji and Quanxi recovering from regen neg should not be a surprise when taking into account how resilient hybrids are stated to be in general. So we could just go off a baseline and give them resistance to regeneration nullification.

And yes, Princi and Angel are full fledged devils and like the Bat Devil, they should have been able to regenerate their limbs. Both of them continued on missing limbs permanently, with Angel stating that he has no arms despite having regeneration. Regarding the idea that Angel could have gotten blood from Public Safety to get back his arms and no, he was not suicidal, considering he wanted to go visit Makima to see how both he and Aki could move forward in order to help Aki stay alive.

Makima is the only outlier here and we can also just give her contract a sub category of resistance to regeneration negation.

That explains why Public Safety had to attempt to re-attach Angel's arms, which failed. Considering fiends generally have weaker regeneration than devils, it would not be a stretch to say that Power had her arms re-attached as well, along with multiple Public Safety agents.

I believe that regen negation for DD is valid here.
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im not sure what specific kind of damage did darkness devil did on angel by staring at him, but was it one that Angel Devil survived later by regeneration? the arms not reatacching is a problem that is luck based as even kobeni as a human could reattach both, but honestly this kind of damage doesnt seems to be survivable for a human
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Edit: if he had to regenerate from the damage darkness devil did to him here, but couldnt regenerate or even reatach his arms, then thats either an inconsistent regeneration from angel or inconsistent regeneration negation from darkness devil
 
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