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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

EldemadeDityjon said:
It's the other way around
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What? I definitely remember Yuji fans starting it with Yuta fans, it was pretty bad during parts of the culling games when Yuta was getting alot of feats while alot of people felt Yuji was on the backburner (to the point I remember people thinking Gege would legitimately kill off Yuji when Sukuna took over Megumi), during that time Yuji fans went after Yuta pretty hard for being an “author’s pet” and having “Shit handed to him”. Eventually when Yuji started to get more feats and power ups (Especially during/after the Sukuna fight) it became much more back and fourth. But from what I remember being in JJK communities back then it did not start “the other way around”.
 
PsychoWarper said:
What? I definitely remember Yuji fans starting it with Yuta fans, it was pretty bad during parts of the culling games when Yuta was getting alot of feats while alot of people felt Yuji was on the backburner (to the point I remember people thinking Gege would legitimately kill off Yuji when Sukuna took over Megumi), during that time Yuji fans went after Yuta pretty hard for being an “author’s pet” and having “Shit handed to him”. Eventually when Yuji started to get more feats and power ups (Especially during/after the Sukuna fight) it became much more back and fourth. But from what I remember being in JJK communities back then it did not start “the other way around”.
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Now you’re using the victim card, and no, there’s no such bullshit like Yuta being hated in the Culling Games. Yes, I agree that Yuji’s writing was accused of being bad, but that has zero relation to hating Yuta. There was no such big incident during that time.

The Yuji vs Yuta stuff started happening when Yuji improved in the Shinjuku Showdown and showed a few feats. Either stop acting like it’s only one side of the fandom, when you can barely count Yuji fans compared to how society is filled with Yuta glazers, almost as much as Gojo had, lol.

Logic doesn’t matter—you people just pushing whatever comes to your mind. Like modulo Yuta has zero speed or durability feats, and you people started new shit like saying he can somehow beat Gojo 😞😞😞. Yeah, you people act like you didn’t started anything after this.

Also it's not Yuji fans who trolls on Yuta. Entire JJK fans (Except Yuta fans) trolls on him. He is just meme material that's all. Just because he was looked down by everyone you people stated blaming that on only Yuji fans & started some kind of beef.
 
Zabazab said:
If you mean positive energy, like what Reverse Cursed Technique produces, then no it can't be used to create a Domain, or even a barrier. Afaik, positive energy has a total of 4 uses:
  1. Stimulating explosive regeneration in organisms. Shoko, Sukuna, and Yuta can use this.
  2. Being channeled through an Innate Cursed Technique to produce a Cursed Technique Reversal. Gojo's Limitless: Red is an example of this.
  3. Exorcising Cursed Spirits. When a Cursed Spirit, which is a negative existence, is exposed to positive energy, its body breaks down and perishes. Makora's Sword of Extermination uses positive energy this way.
  4. Cancelling out Cursed Energy. Since Cursed Energy is negative energy, positive energy can neutralize it. This isn't seen very often since it isn't very practical.
And reading about Modulo while being anime-only is actually mental
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I was forced to follow the manga two years ago thanks to my friends. But I didn't get to follow Culling Game very closely. I had already watched the anime, but it's been a while. So I started from scratch to properly understand and digest it.
 
PsychoWarper said:
What? I definitely remember Yuji fans starting it with Yuta fans, it was pretty bad during parts of the culling games when Yuta was getting alot of feats while alot of people felt Yuji was on the backburner (to the point I remember people thinking Gege would legitimately kill off Yuji when Sukuna took over Megumi), during that time Yuji fans went after Yuta pretty hard for being an “author’s pet” and having “Shit handed to him”. Eventually when Yuji started to get more feats and power ups (Especially during/after the Sukuna fight) it became much more back and fourth. But from what I remember being in JJK communities back then it did not start “the other way around”.
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It was always 50/50
Yuta fans who remembered him from the prototype manga were asking for him to come back
When he did return, Yuji fans hated him cause his first impression to a lot of em was wanting to kill Yuji
After he chilled out, they chilled out too
Until Sendai.
Him being so strong made em act up but Yuta fans were also talking big about him being more "mc-like" than Yuji, at least power wise.
And it just kept growing from there icl
 
Rogue_Forge said:
Ok but was this really necessary
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Yes
Rogue_Forge said:
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Cause Megumi was not built like that in the manga, atp every male character is gonna have a fanservice moment
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I don't know about dat cus when Sukuna takes over and we see the shirtless shots of Megumi he's pretty well built.
 
Qurbonboev said:
IIRC, it's current frost calm calc (2.95 kT, but there is 13.58 kT recalc, waiting for evaluation). KingTempest said that scaling changes would be done soon, so we are waiting
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That’s definitely interesting.
Got some nitpicks with the 13.58kt calc, stuff like the manga’s scale clearly not being the same as the real life version.

New question, output scaling exists (how people are scaling off of Uraume’s feat) but where does Sukuna factor into all of this? Sukuna is a CG player and Ryu has the highest output of them all.
 
BiggestOpp said:
That’s definitely interesting.
Got some nitpicks with the 13.58kt calc, stuff like the manga’s scale clearly not being the same as the real life version.

New question, output scaling exists (how people are scaling off of Uraume’s feat) but where does Sukuna factor into all of this? Sukuna is a CG player and Ryu has the highest output of them all.
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Personally I don't think anyone should scale off of that since it's a creation feat and JJK Lacks any UES. Idk
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Personally I don't think anyone should scale off of that since it's a creation feat and JJK Lacks any UES. Idk
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From my understanding it isn’t technically a creation feat, since Uraume’s not creating the ice out of thin air but freezing the air around them.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Personally I don't think anyone should scale off
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I've also considered this, since Uraume's Cursed Technique is "super-cooling Cursed Energy", meaning that even if they aren't outputting a tremendous amount of CE, they can still make huge ice structures. Essentially it separates the temperature change (the part of the feat that's calculated) from the CE output (what Ryu scales above).

But AP scaling ain't my forté.

BiggestOpp said:
So check me out, if Ryu had higher CE output than Sukuna, then why did this happen?
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Can't see imgur links since I'm in the UK, but assuming this is Ryu's death, I said Sukuna opted for Cleave (adapts to target CE).
 
Zabazab said:
Can't see imgur links since I'm in the UK, but assuming this is Ryu's death, I said Sukuna opted for Cleave (adapts to target CE).
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Mf got supernatural abilities.
It’s not the fact that he killed Ryu, it’s the manner in which he did.
He speed blitz the guy, like, hard asl.
One of the most blatant speed blitzs in the verse.
This shouldn’t be the case with output scaling slop.
 
BiggestOpp said:
This shouldn’t be the case with output scaling slop.
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Is output taken as speed? I don't think that's right at all. Ryu definitely isn't the fastest Culling Game player even if he has the highest output, he said Yuta's output was alright and yet Yuta wasn't even close to being blitzed by Ryu. Even if output is a factor, since basically every quality factors into every stat in JJK (agony), it'd make more sense for reinforcement to be equally if not more decisive when it comes to speed.
 
Zabazab said:
Is output taken as speed? I don't think that's right at all. Ryu definitely isn't the fastest Culling Game player even if he has the highest output, he said Yuta's output was alright and yet Yuta wasn't even close to being blitzed by Ryu. Even if output is a factor, since basically every quality factors into every stat in JJK (agony), it'd make more sense for reinforcement to be equally if not more decisive when it comes to speed.
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I assumed reinforcement depended on your output.
Is this not the case?
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Uh what? Why would it assume air being frozen?
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All questions should he directed to Tempest. They are one that assumed that it was nitrogen and oxygen in the air that was frozen(for some reason they used density of ice to calculate mass though).
In case you interested in calc:
1. Assuming that it was water in the air that was frozen gives higher results(by around x5). Assuming it was air components that were frozen upgrades Uraume ice magic "potency"(from 0 C° to -218.8 C°) and resistance of characters that can resist it.
2. From some reason it assumes that energy needed to create 1 m2 of frozen air you need to freeze 1 m2 of air(if you don't get where is error, compare air and frozen air density).
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Imagine upgrading the verse after half a year with 20 different CRTs but then the discord server with 20 different mods decides to downgrade it all with 4 threads in less than a month

Couldn't be me I saw this shit happening from 2 miles
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Hmm, i think you might be talking about me huh
 
Qurbonboev said:
All questions should he directed to Tempest. They are one that assumed that it was nitrogen and oxygen in the air that was frozen(for some reason they used density of ice to calculate mass though).
In case you interested in calc:
1. Assuming that it was water in the air that was frozen gives higher results(by around x5). Assuming it was air components that were frozen upgrades Uraume ice magic "potency"(from 0 C° to -218.8 C°) and resistance of characters that can resist it.
2. From some reason it assumes that energy needed to create 1 m2 of frozen air you need to freeze 1 m2 of air(if you don't get where is error, compare air and frozen air density).
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Well lets make yet a third thread for that ******* block why not?
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
That's a mechanic of Kirara's CT, not a rule for cursed energy

Speed amp is done via cursed energy reinforcement, while output is the energy that you release when attacking.
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My head hurts , yall JJK goons gone be the end of me
Cursed energy reinforcement is when they reinforce their body with CE.
That gives them enhanced speed, durability and speed.
Is this incorrect?
Kirara’s CT causes whatever has higher output to attract whatever has lesser output.
Megumi says when he enhanced his body with CE (reinforcement) he became the attractor.
That means reinforcement is based on output. Is this interpretation wrong? What am I misinterpreting?
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Well lets make yet a third thread for that ******* block why not?
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SInce staff approved lowball for ice block, results would be around kiloton(below frost calm)

Btw, Ryu output is obviously lower than Sukuna. Ruy was player with highest output before Sukuna pocessed Megumi.
 
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