Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Buraqibear]

but why does full power suddenly scale? as per the verse page

He doesn't. He simply upscales from 380 Kilotons (where the high tiers currently scale) to 550 Kilotons due to being vastly superior. He still downscales from the Meteor, which is 750 Kilotons.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What is it about Yuta that has led to mass psychosis surrounding him? Envy, and overreaction in response to that envy?

Hearing this from Yuta glazers is funny

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bro Elde said Rika offguarded someone from several metres away and that person was looking directly at her;

He has a better chance saying bro got blitzed than what he just said

He was not expecting her to be that strong so he let his guard down some and got punched because of that. That's literally off-guard however you see it. Next panel support my claim he literally punched her away when he gets to know her strength. Chapter 180 we have heavily damaged Ryu having statement for Cooking fully Manifested Rika. So idk where you people are just spamming this like this Punch he took was on guard. No interpretation gives this as a on guard. This is just characters not fully reinforcing themselves that's all.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

How did bro get offguarded by someone several metres away that he was looking at?
So you hear yourself?
Him punching her back is irrelevant

I already addressed this above so not gonna repeat.

Yeah and CE released as output from a sword swing is the same as every output inefficient and not all that

Nothing states this send me scan for CE blasts used by Cursed tools is inefficient.

Awakened not angry
And it is a good feat

I already addressed SS = Durability so no that's literally off-guard as he was not expecting her to be that strong when he known about it he sent her flying without any issues and chapter 180 you literally have statement for her getting cooked by his SS. You can't be serious about this at this point.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

This is what hating and agenda does to an mf, bro got off-guarded?? What did he get distracted by a fly while the gargantuan 16ft Shikigami was infront of him?? I'm dead, elde trippin

This is what surface level reading from Yuta glazers does to them

He was not expecting her to be that strong so he let his guard down some and got punched because of that. That's literally off-guard however see it. Next panel support my claim he literally punched her away when he gets to know her strength. Chapter 180 we have heavily damaged Ryu having statement for Cooking fully Manifested Rika. So idk where you people are just spamming this like this Punch he took was on guard. No interpretation gives this as a on guard. This is just characters not fully reinforcing themselves that's all.

 

[Buraqibear]

Ngl Elde is tripping here and I love that guy (platonically)

 

[Sus]

will mahoraga have a new key or will it be with his untamed key

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

will mahoraga have a new key or will it be with his untamed key

I feel like it has to be a new key since he started out untamed but then has gotten so many buffs that he even eclipses the version of him who was fighting Gojo.

 

[ZERO7772]

I feel like it has to be a new key since he started out untamed but then has gotten so many buffs that he even eclipses the version of him who was fighting Gojo.

Any Mahoraga would end up like this given enough time. Dabura has been fighting him for a while.

Also, Mahoraga hasn't kept with Dabura in the slightest, all he's doing is getting nuked again and again and adapting.

 

[Sus]

Any Mahoraga would end up like this given enough time. Dabura has been fighting him for a while.

Also, Mahoraga hasn't kept with Dabura in the slightest, all he's doing is getting nuked again and again and adapting.

he still damaged him and knocked him around

also, since sukuna notes that raga started using CE after the first spin, what feats would actual base raga have?

 

[Entity]

4 keys for Mahoraga?
Base, vs Sukuna, vs Gojo, vs Dabura?

 

[Zabazab]

Honestly not sure Sukuna's Makora should even have its own page since it's just his summon. I think only untamed Makora should have its own profile.

 

[Sus]

4 keys for Mahoraga?
Base, vs Sukuna, vs Gojo, vs Dabura?

i believe only 2 are needed
untamed and sukuna's

 

[ZERO7772]

he still damaged him and knocked him around

also, since sukuna notes that raga started using CE after the first spin, what feats would actual base raga have?

I am talking post Dabura taking the fight seriously. Raga's blade was broken upon touching Dabura's palm. After that he started getting blitzed and survived cuz Dabura grazed him earlier.

 

[Alexander]

Mahoraga should just get "he gains this with his adaptation" since he is not really changing has a character beyond, obviosly, ADAPTATING

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

He was not expecting her to be that strong so he let his guard down some and got punched because of that. That's literally off-guard however you see it. Next panel support my claim he literally punched her away when he gets to know her strength. Chapter 180 we have heavily damaged Ryu having statement for Cooking fully Manifested Rika. So idk where you people are just spamming this like this Punch he took was on guard. No interpretation gives this as a on guard. This is just characters not fully reinforcing themselves that's all.

Prove that
Cause now you're saying rubbish
Ryu literally before this was saying Rika might be stronger than Yuta because she deflected his granite blast

No we didn't we had a statement that it would be hard for her to handle
Ryu fought Rika after this and wasn't able to oneshot her

You're saying absolute rubbish

Nothing states this send me scan for CE blasts used by Cursed tools is inefficient.

Don't need to
Ryu stated Yuta sword output isn't special but was glazing his reinforcement

I already addressed SS = Durability so no that's literally off-guard as he was not expecting her to be that strong when he known about it he sent her flying without any issues and chapter 180 you literally have statement for her getting cooked by his SS. You can't be serious about this at this point.

Prove this
And what you stated isn't proof

 

[Buraqibear]

Mahoraga's current keys are fine. He should just get the stuff he does in Modulo with adaptation

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Prove that
Cause now you're saying rubbish
Ryu literally before this was saying Rika might be stronger than Yuta because she deflected his granite blast

No we didn't we had a statement that it would be hard for her to handle
Ryu fought Rika after this and wasn't able to oneshot her

You're saying absolute rubbish

Real rubbish arguments is you arguing just because Ryu says Rika might be tougher than Yuta he was on guard like that matters Yuta physically was inferior to Ryu. He doesn't need to be on guard against some interior opponents.
Anyway I already gave two instances where Ryu overpowered Rika. Its your burden to send proof that Ryu was on guard otherwise by burden of proof you are literally losing this.

Don't need to
Ryu stated Yuta sword output isn't special but was glazing his reinforcement

You are spamming headcanon for Ryu Glazing Yuta's Reinforcements. He glazes his CE reserve acting like a water tank.

Prove this
And what you stated isn't proof

Vs wiki SS page literally has SS = Durability. Idk what you want me to prove here

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Real rubbish arguments is you arguing just because Ryu says Rika might be tougher than Yuta he was on guard like that matters Yuta physically was inferior to Ryu. He doesn't need to be on guard against some interior opponents.
Anyway I already gave two instances where Ryu overpowered Rika. Its your burden to send proof that Ryu was on guard otherwise by burden of proof you are literally losing this.

No my argument was that he was looking at her and from several metres away rika crossed that and punched him without bro being able to dodge

Both attacks by Ryu would be on an offguard Rika as well
Seeing that she was throwing a punch when she was attacked the first time and she was attacked while demanifesting

You said he wasn't aware of how strong she was that's he was overpowered and bleed?
So why is he bleeding and dripping blood after being sent flying again?

You are spamming headcanon for Ryu Glazing Yuta's Reinforcements. He glazes his CE reserve acting like a water tank.

The official translation I'm reading is;

He reinforces his toughness with cursed energy

It's like I'm hitting a massive water tank

Vs wiki SS page literally has SS = Durability. Idk what you want me to prove here

You haven't proven that he was offguard
Because by your logic both times Rika was overpowered she was offguard

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

Nope he was taking attacking and dishing his own. The agenda of Tsurugi being 100 times stronger is stupid and reddit level argument.

He was just taking hits, he was throwing out attacks sure but none of them EVER landed. I do agree he's not like 100 times stronger but there should be a distinction between normal Ritsugi and Ritsugi standing in place for a couple seconds so Tsirugi can swing at full power and Rika charging up energy to enhance it with CE. Prior to the slash Maru was on the defensive and clearly held a disadvantage at the very least power wise so an amped slash should just be further beyond his ball park.

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Nope he was taking attacking and dishing his own. The agenda of Tsurugi being 100 times stronger is stupid and reddit level argument.

He ever dished any hit
Hell he never landed any hits at all

Apart from one time he froze Tsurika arm which Tsurugi immediately overpowered
Bro doesn't scale to shit

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

He was not expecting her to be that strong so he let his guard down some and got punched because of that. That's literally off-guard however you see it. Next panel support my claim he literally punched her away when he gets to know her strength. Chapter 180 we have heavily damaged Ryu having statement for Cooking fully Manifested Rika. So idk where you people are just spamming this like this Punch he took was on guard. No interpretation gives this as a on guard. This is just characters not fully reinforcing themselves that's all.

Bro @OjeTheArcher15 he's def trolling u, do NOT FALL FOR THE RAGEBAIT

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

No my argument was that he was looking at her and from several metres away rika crossed that and punched him without bro being able to dodge

Both attacks by Ryu would be on an offguard Rika as well
Seeing that she was throwing a punch when she was attacked the first time and she was attacked while demanifesting

You said he wasn't aware of how strong she was that's he was overpowered and bleed?
So why is he bleeding and dripping blood after being sent flying again?

The official translation I'm reading is;

It's like I'm hitting a massive water tank

You haven't proven that he was offguard
Because by your logic both times Rika was overpowered she was offguard

Dude this argument is gonna seem redundant when the anime version of Sendai Colony drops and they add 62 more minutes to the episode and an extended 3 minute cut of Rika ragdolling Ryu lmao

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No my argument was that he was looking at her and from several metres away rika crossed that and punched him without bro being able to dodge

He is guessing how much strong she is rather than knowing how much power she can put in that fist of hers. You have yet to give one single scan and statement for Ryu was on guard.

Both attacks by Ryu would be on an offguard Rika as well
Seeing that she was throwing a punch when she was attacked the first time and she was attacked while demanifesting

Gege didn't say Ryus attack on off-guard fully Manifested will be too much. That's Another headcanon from you with burden of proof.

You said he wasn't aware of how strong she was that's he was overpowered and bleed?
So why is he bleeding and dripping blood after being sent flying again?

When you underestimate your opponent and gets hit you'll obviously gets damaged and bleed I don't see how that's an argument from your end.

He started bleeding when She hit him first idk where you are getting she hit again. Also where do you see Rika now? She got sent blown away by Ryu lol

The official translation I'm reading is;

It's like I'm hitting a massive water tank

I already sent Raws to you few weeks ago and you trusting Werry Translations when Tcb is better for JJK is already funny seems like you are trying to push this agenda no matter what. If you need I'll get the raws again
Both TCB and Raws states it's talking about his CE pool there is zero statement for his reinforcements statement from Ryu.

You haven't proven that he was offguard
Because by your logic both times Rika was overpowered she was offguard

I already gave two scenes. At this point your arguments falls under ignorance that's all.

 

[Mommyleona]

What are Elde and O*e arguing about

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What are Elde and O*e arguing about

Basically Ryu vs Rika stuff

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

Basically Ryu vs Rika stuff

What specifically cause it's going off the rails rn, is it just whether Rika can beat Ryu or? Cause it seems the discussion is more talking about Durability and Rika being able to harm Ryu and whatnot

 

[Mommyleona]

Basically Ryu vs Rika stuff

Is O*e still downplaying Rika or what

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

He is guessing how much strong she is rather than knowing how much power she can put in that fist of hers. You have yet to give one single scan and statement for Ryu was on guard.

I assume he's onguard because he's in a battle stance
You haven't given any proof that she's offguard

Gege didn't say Ryus attack on off-guard fully Manifested will be too much. That's Another headcanon from you with burden of proof.

He doesn't need to specify it
Seeing that he couldn't oneshot her throughout their battle until she was demanifesting

When you underestimate your opponent and gets hit you'll obviously gets damaged and bleed I don't see how that's an argument from your end.

He started bleeding when She hit him first idk where you are getting she hit again. Also where do you see Rika now? She got sent blown away by Ryu lol

Are you blind?

Rika is literally with ryu

Then after we see blood dripping from him and the original blood has dried up

I already sent Raws to you few weeks ago and you trusting Werry Translations when Tcb is better for JJK is already funny seems like you are trying to push this agenda no matter what. If you need I'll get the raws again
Both TCB and Raws states it's talking about his CE pool there is zero statement for his reinforcements statement from Ryu.

Drop it again big bro

I already gave two scenes. At this point your arguments falls under ignorance that's all.

Nope those two scenes are offguarded by your logic

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What specifically cause it's going off the rails rn, is it just whether Rika can beat Ryu or? Cause it seems the discussion is more talking about Durability and Rika being able to harm Ryu and whatnot

It started from CE Reinforcements idk why the topic changed from Yuta to Rika vs Ryu at this point

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Is O*e still downplaying Rika or what

No Elde is saying Rika damaging Ryu is an offguard attack

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Spoiler

Also, Dabura just hearing about there being a type of barrier and pulling out a domain is bs (again)

Spoiler

Actually based on some of the early translations he says something to the extent of "I wonder if Earth has this technique" so it's something SImurians already know

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

It started from CE Reinforcements idk why the topic changed from Yuta to Rika vs Ryu at this point

Because it's an example and Rika is the discussion at hand?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I assume he's onguard because he's in a battle stance
You haven't given any proof that she's offguard

He didn't had battle stance he fired normal GB and started wondering how strong Rika might be. That's not means he is utilising of his power.

He doesn't need to specify it
Seeing that he couldn't oneshot her throughout their battle until she was demanifesting

He was playing around in the beginning since he wanted to have a good fight.

Are you blind?

Rika is literally with ryu

Well if you can read check the top right words. Lol

Thenafter we see blood dripping from him and the original blood has dried up

Your Headcanon we see him bleeding already

Drop it again big bro

Later. I'll need to look for the message. Site is slow

Nope those two scenes are offguarded by your logic

I don't think you understand what is off-guard means. You need to prove Rika was not taking Ryu seriously to prove that.

 

[Buraqibear]

If Tsurugi went ahead and killed Maru he would've awakened his HR right? Would've been cool seeing fully realized Cross vs HR Tsurugi, I feel like this chapter was a bit rushed

 

[ElJoaki5]

I fear the fourth jjk downgrade is gonna be my relativistic scaling.

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

It started from CE Reinforcements idk why the topic changed from Yuta to Rika vs Ryu at this point

CE Reinforcement in regards to what I'm curious now!!! Gimme the details!

 

[ShroobWasTaken]

Spoiler

Actually based on some of the early translations he says something to the extent of "I wonder if Earth has this technique" so it's something SImurians already know

Although from how the beginning of the fight began it's clear he didn't have a domain expansion prior to the fight so I'm curious what exactly he's referring to.

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

He didn't had battle stance he fired normal GB and started wondering how strong Rika might be. That's not means he is utilising of his power.

He was playing around in the beginning since he wanted to have a good fight.

But wait?
Do you think he used a 100% of his power to block Rika blast?

He's in a battle
How can Rika cross how many metres and hit bro without him being able to dodge?

Well if you can read check the top right words. Lol

That's after the panel I sent
Here's Rika in the panel I sent

Your Headcanon we see him bleeding already

The blood had already dried up
We see him later with fresh blood dripping from his nose down to his chin which this bleeding doesn't reach

Later. I'll need to look for the message. Site is slow

Saw one from lightning saying it's endurance interpreted as toughness because he's also using RCT
So it's a water tank cause he's trying to shave off his CE away

I don't think you understand what is off-guard means. You need to prove Rika was not taking Ryu seriously to prove that.

Offguard doesn't only mean seriously
It's an attack you didn't expect

She was demanifesting when she was hit and she was rushing bro when she got decked
Both are attacks she wasn't expecting

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

@EldemadeDityjon
I found the raws and you're correct that there's no reinforcement in there

Although I wonder how just having large amounts of cursed energy makes one durable