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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

In Legends, there's no visual effect when they use "amplification"? I remember Luke turning blue when he shielded himself from an AT-AT in Dark Empire.
There is sometimes, depends on the exact medium and piece of media. Like SWTOR cinematics will show a flash of blue when Malgus or Satele Shan are tanking stuff.
 
Should be mentioned in the weaknesses, although I believe this is more a matter of most Jedi/Sith lacking the skill to apply tutaminis defensively to fast/small/high intensity bursts of energy like blaster blots rather than lacking the power to do so, since they can tank explosions and attacks with far far greater yields in other circumstances.
Same should be said with lightsabers as well
 
I believe this is more a matter of most Jedi/Sith lacking the skill to apply tutaminis defensively to fast/small/high intensity bursts of energy like blaster blots rather than lacking the power to do so
It is canonically considered a hard skill to master after all, and as implied in the RotJ novelization, it can fail!
 
MUI lol
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Going through the works with Luke in him shows he's incredibly cracked tbh. Someday I'll probably make a skill blog for the Legends characters, if those are still things.
This is canon.

And honestly, what the text is quoting is that thing about "being guided by the Force" that every Jedi is capable of.

So this probably applies to Jedi in general.
 
@Epyriel Since you said "Don’t swap accepted calculations without an approved CGM thread confirming the new calculation is superior", what should done for here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgrade-for-darth-nihilus.186785/
For the Low 1-C upgrade or for your new Nihilus calc?

For the Low 1-C upgrade it would be just a matter of getting more staff members to look at that thread, for swapping your new Nihilus calc it would require creating a CGM thread proposing using your new calc over the old one.
 
There's so much to add that I'm already getting lazy.

Actually, it's not that much, it's just that I'll have to change the Imgur links since I sent them outside of my account.



In Legends, Force users can't block lightsabers with the Force Barrier?
Force Users can block lightsabers with Force Barriers in Legends (That is not what they are saying or trying to imply).

Hell, that actually happened with the Old Republic Era shenanigans with the Sith Emperor at the time to being specific. Also tbf, Force Barriers technically are a solution that still needs Force Concentration and the skills to do it too IIRC.
 
Should it also be mentioned that it's rather well established in canon that Force Users are glass cannons for all intents and purposes? If it wasn't the case, then Order 66 would have failed!
Tbf on this part, it wasn’t the sole reason for Order 66. Straightup the Sith was orchestrating the Clone Amy to betray the Jedi prior (even in Legends, but in terms of that, there are actually clones that actually rebel against Order 66 pre control chip that was introduced in the later seasons of the 2007 Clone War shows).

Also the Dark Side of the Force was actively growing stronger due to the Clone Wars and all the negative emotions that was present.

Hell, Yoda straightup admitted the Dark Side clouds them a lot.


Still, we do have instances of the remaining Jedi survivors after the Clone Wars too.

They have to get hunted down a lot post Order 66 as well.
 
I want to ask about Star Wars UES. Does the force amplify the durability of unconscious characters?
 
I want to ask about Star Wars UES. Does the force amplify the durability of unconscious characters?
Not sure if that is clarified in-universe. My assumption would be no?

I believe it is currently treated as a “no” on-site since unconscious Kenobi surviving being crushed by the platform on the IH by Dooku is used as a durability feat for non-Force amplified stats on Legends profiles.
 
Not sure if that is clarified in-universe. My assumption would be no?

I believe it is currently treated as a “no” on-site since unconscious Kenobi surviving being crushed by the platform on the IH by Dooku is used as a durability feat for non-Force amplified stats on Legends profiles.
Gotcha. It’s weird that that someone like Talzin has 9-B natural durability from scaling but Obi-Wan who has that durability feat doesn’t have it on his page.

I think no one should get a durability rating outside of UES unless they have the feats to support it. No one should scale to the "natural durability" from another character without very good reasons.
 
Gotcha. It’s weird that that someone like Talzin has 9-B natural durability from scaling but Obi-Wan who has that durability feat doesn’t have it on his page.

I think no one should get a durability rating outside of UES unless they have the feats to support it. No one should scale to the "natural durability" from another character without very good reasons.
That's why I said that.

I had plans to make a crt about this.

I don't disagree with "x normally, y with Force/Force Amplification". Or even implementing Varia as @DaReaperMan once suggested.

But I think it's basically impossible to determine how strong they normally are, it's totally subjective.

So it would end up being "unknown normally, x with Force/Force Amplification", which I think would be the same as just putting the Tier with amplification, but I can make a crt about that later.


I think the unknown would only resolve questions about antifeats.
 
for swapping your new Nihilus calc it would require creating a CGM thread proposing using your new calc over the old one.
Need some CPR for these also:



 
Cal's master died because he was trying to aura farm. Just keep spinning the ******* double bladed lightsaber you idiot instead of trying to ping off bolts that weren't even gonna hit you or Cal.
 
Not sure if that is clarified in-universe. My assumption would be no?

I believe it is currently treated as a “no” on-site since unconscious Kenobi surviving being crushed by the platform on the IH by Dooku is used as a durability feat for non-Force amplified stats on Legends profiles.
I want to ask about Star Wars UES. Does the force amplify the durability of unconscious characters?
Oh, I will back up Eypriel’s statement with a firm no.

To my knowledge, the Force never really amplified a Force User’s durability when unconscious unless there are exceptions that I was aware of, but yeah, generally no.

A Force User have to consciously amplify themselves with the Force regardless of being a Light sider or a Dark Side user as far as I am aware.

The only possible exceptions would probably be if they have some ability that activates subconsciously, but I not aware of any such feats. Canon or otherwise too
 
Cal's master died because he was trying to aura farm. Just keep spinning the ******* double bladed lightsaber you idiot instead of trying to ping off bolts that weren't even gonna hit you or Cal.
Spinning a lightsaber always leads to losing.

Just look at the Inquisitors.
 
Damnit lmfao

Well, anything regarding those?
If I recall correctly I think there was a feat in a novel where someone goes relative with I-Five’s lasers which are lightspeed, but that might be difficult to calc due to the written format.
This just got accepted as 7.9% SoL (Sub-Relativistic+). Some nice consistency considering this is a low tier.

 
In the very distant future (because my college classes start again in 3 days, and I still have work and things happening at home) I plan to rework the canon Force page.

I've already mentioned that I didn't like it because...

My idea was to use the "Force Powers" tab to list all the powers and use the Jedi/Sith tab, etc., as an explanation of why they have those powers in general.

But I quickly realized that was kind of silly. Since I literally use the same scans to explain the powers as well as to explain why Jedi have them. This thing became kind of redundant and confusing.

Besides the characters with more unique powers, like Vader and Sidious.

Basically, I would remove that part and probably change the page name to "Force Manipulation" or something like that.
 
Also what happened when the Jedi was caught Off guard and surprised when the Clones was turning on them too.

It is kinda tragic and funny at the same time that the Jedi did trust the clones there with exceptions of Pong Krell and Rahm Kota as well as some other examples (The Latter of which actually prefer using actual militiamen over using clones that have a suspicious origin for a Legend character at least)
 
Also what happened when the Jedi was caught Off guard and surprised when the Clones was turning on them too.
What do you mean, what happened? Are you talking about how they were caught off guard?

In Legends, from what I know, it's more explicit how Order 66 affected them. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I remember someone commenting on it. Was it something from the dark side subduing their senses?

In canon, nothing is explicit, but whenever the Jedi feel a great disturbance in the Force, they feel unwell/become confused.

It happened more explicitly with Yoda and Jaro. Something similar happened when Obi-Wan sensed the destruction of Alderaan.
 
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