- 5,291
- 1,997
Many people took the actual full sequence to mean Starkiller pulled it out of the sky himself (which is even a direct voiceline in-game):
That was said in the novel too tbf so many people actually take the feat as it is
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Many people took the actual full sequence to mean Starkiller pulled it out of the sky himself (which is even a direct voiceline in-game):
I haven't had any lucks with responses on my calc though, so I'll probably abandon it for now, since my free time is dwindling.
I covered the weaknesses. Unfortunately, there's only WOG, but I don't think that WOG contradicts what's shown in the franchise.Weaknesses
The manifestations of the Force Spirits do not last forever; eventually, they return to unity with the Force.
"Something," possibly the Force itself, can interfere with the manifestation and actions of the Force Spirits. For example, it took all of Anakin's energy to save Luke from Exegol because this "something" really didn't want the two to have any contact.
The Dark Side can also interfere with the Force Spirits. For example, in order for the Force Spirits to help Rey defeat Palpatine, they had to do everything they could, since Exegol was a font of dark power.
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[Book] Star Wars: Shadow of the Sith
Ah yes, one feat that's well above most feats for the verse surely counts for... basically every force user to scale to.the yarael poof feat for legends is still useable. The destuction of coruscant wasn't going to be a chain reaction. the infant of shaa just needed the power to be cracked open and for the planet busting energy to be released. Yareal poof basically used his power to tame the energy and stop it from releasing. So legend force users should stay as planet level for now.
Ah yes, one feat that's well above most feats for the verse surely counts for... basically every force user to scale to.
Funnily enough, for average force users High 6-A isn't even consistent lmfao, it's for the top to god-tiers that High 5-A becomes consistent and those feats are from OLD REPUBLIC or people who scale to OLD REPUBLIC, so dickfuck nobody outside of the era Not named Palpatine or ******* who scale to him(basically nobody, lol) that's who.All we need is some damn good consistency as well (Not accounting for the Old Republic Era, the rituals, and so on that is. Although I did vaguely recall some Night Sister feat, but that was a long time ago. )
I honestly don’t even buy the average Force Users being High 6A in Legends argument period as that is just nonsensical.Funnily enough, for average force users High 6-A isn't even consistent lmfao, it's for the top to god-tiers that High 5-A becomes consistent and those feats are from OLD REPUBLIC or people who scale to OLD REPUBLIC, so dickfuck nobody outside of the era that's who.
Considering only every single High 5-A feat comes from DS users...I honestly don’t even buy the average Force Users in Legends argument period as that is just nonsensical.
I say the High Tier of the Star War Legend may have some better chance than the average Force Users that ain’t like Top Tier to begin with.
The best I saw in that regard was between Town Level and maybe City Level at best for Lightside Force Users.
Hell, I am pretty sure everyone can agree the Dark Side users technically have more better feats than the Light Users.
I will say the New Republic Era and any post Original Trilogy content have better odds to getting good feats considering the Force Storms feats, Luke Skywalker’s own feats, and so on.Considering only every single High 5-A feat comes from DS users...
But yeah, it's like, Tier 7 has a ton of casual feats in it from people like Padawan Anakin or a rando Padawan who currently scales their TK LS, to Grievous, etcetera. Like, most feats worth a damn in legends are in Tier 7, and basically all the rest are High 5-A.
Funny thing about most of that: it scales to Luke and uh... Papa Palps, and uh...I will say the New Republic Era and any post Original Trilogy content have better odds to getting good feats considering the Force Storms feats, Luke Skywalker’s own feats, and so on.
Most of that shit was pretty crazy and over the top as far as I am aware for OT. Well, more so, post Original Trilogy content and all for Legends
Abeloth been like “I am a eldritch horror being that the Daughter, Father, and Son seal away with help from other beings”Funny thing about most of that: it scales to Luke and uh... Papa Palps, and uh...
Thanks, I’ve been so busy with my semester that I haven’t had time to check on the calc. So, the Post ANH could be upgraded to 8-B
“Kota leaned closer. "Don't be overconfident, boy. Felucia is a world finely balanced between the light and dark sides of the Force. Shaak Ti was the only thing keeping it from being consumed by darkness. If anything's happened to her, your experience in the hut will seem like a bad dream in comparison."
Closing his eyes, the Master of the Shadow Academy began to move his hands. Zekk watched through the observation port, his green eyes widening.
The ocean of rarefied incandescent gases between the dying stars started to swirl like arms of fire... writhing, changing shape, dancing in time with the hand motions Brakiss made. The dark teacher was manipulating the starfire itself!
He whispered to Zekk without opening his eyes, without observing the effect of his work. "The Force is in all things," Brakiss said, "from the smallest pebble to the largest star. This is just a glimmer of how Naga Sadow reached out to the stars and delivered a mortal wound five thousand years ago. "
- Young Jedi Knights: Lightsabers
Can someone put this on the verse page?
It's Reddit. Did you expect anything less?Wow, a lot of people on Reddit underestimate Luke because of the limited training he's had.
Seriously, many people treat Luke from ROJ as a mid-level Jedi.
Well, if this were a normal Star Wars subreddit I'd "understand" since not everyone is looking for guides and books.It's Reddit. Did you expect anything less?
It's Reddit. Did you expect anything less?
I assume you meant Return of the Jedi from Original Trilogy, but there is the novels to take into consideration from the Legends continuity as well.Wow, a lot of people on Reddit underestimate Luke because of the limited training he's had.
Seriously, many people treat Luke from ROJ as a mid-level Jedi.
I don't know about Legends, but in canon we have several statements that he's not only as strong but also as skilled as Vader with the lightsaber.I assume you meant Return of the Jedi from Original Trilogy, but there is the novels to take into consideration from the Legends continuity as well.
But, Luke was technically still inexperienced so I assume the reasoning on Luke being mid level Jedi is due to the bare minimum training sessions from Yoda and Obi Wan Kenobi.
Although his performances against Darth Vader was there as he did win eventually
There is a bunch of that in Legends as well by ROTJ.I don't know about Legends, but in canon we have several statements that he's not only as strong but also as skilled as Vader with the lightsaber.
Seems to be also apparent for the Expanded Universe alsoSeriously, many people treat Luke from ROJ as a mid-level Jedi.
I wouldn't apply to Luke physically though, that is more of this calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/Luke's_ACTUAL_durabilitySo, the Post ANH could be upgraded to 8-B
UESI wouldn't apply to Luke physically though
But it's clear that Luke ATT was very new at using the Force and essentially shook the Star Destroyer by accident. Should we rate Force Awakens Rey as "Unknown" just because the Force is a UES?
Btw can we get rid of the “X naturally, Y with the Force” bit that remains on some of the statistics? Kind of messy and not something we really use in any other UES verse since the default assumption is that the statistic refers to the value accomplished with the UES.
Should be mentioned in the weaknesses, although I believe this is more a matter of most Jedi/Sith lacking the skill to apply tutaminis defensively to fast/small/high intensity bursts of energy like blaster blots rather than lacking the power to do so, since they can tank explosions and attacks with far far greater yields in other circumstances.Should it also be mentioned that it's rather well established in canon that Force Users are glass canons for all intents and purposes? If it wasn't the case, then Order 66 would have failed!
I had plans to make a crt about this.Btw can we get rid of the “X naturally, Y with the Force” bit that remains on some of the statistics? Kind of messy and not something we really use in any other UES verse since the default assumption is that the statistic refers to the value accomplished with the UES.
They are physically strong, but that doesn't mean they gain heat resistance.Should it also be mentioned that it's rather well established in canon that Force Users are glass canons for all intents and purposes? If it wasn't the case, then Order 66 would have failed!
In Legends, there's no visual effect when they use "amplification"? I remember Luke turning blue when he shielded himself from an AT-AT in Dark Empire.Should be mentioned in the weaknesses, although I believe this is more a matter of most Jedi/Sith lacking the skill to apply tutaminis defensively to fast/small/high intensity bursts of energy like blaster blots rather than lacking the power to do so, since they can tank explosions and attacks with far far greater yields in other circumstances.