- 20,139
- 21,985
Introduction
Another one. This time, we will be fixing certain issues with the layering section of the magic explanation page as well as reorganizing the general abilities section.General Abilities Rework
Currently, the general magic section is labelled this way and includes all of the abilities innate to magic users within the setting. However, given that there have been recent additions (the ability to generate Chaos Flames and the ability to close Realm Tears) that scale uniformly to high level gods and divine beings, I've decided to reformat this section to reduce page bloat and identical power block. The new section will look like this;Soul Magic
This the innate magical prowess available to all users of magic in the entirety of the setting. As magic, life and the soul are synonymous and one and the same, beings may use their abilities to interact with these forces in various ways.Innate
This is the baseline ability to manipulate magic inherent to all beings;- Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1) (All magic is an abstraction that predates and encompasses reality and a manifestation of the soul. Souls are composed of their form, that is the metaphysical nature of a being, their luck, their mind, and their direction, which guides their path to their respective afterlife as per Mimir's words. Over the millennium of Pandora's Temple being open to mortals, each one of those years mortal soldiers have been capable of entering the temple, but to do so they would need to pass the Desert of Lost Souls, which is only done by forcing the souls out of Sirens as per Athena'swords. Ares's army which consists of Legionnaires, undead soldiers of Ares, and Wraiths, vengeful human spirits, had ripped and mangled the souls of Athenians by their hands during the siege of Athens. The Raiders transmute their own souls to give themselves animal traits. Magic persists with the soul and can be used offensively to hurt other spirits.)
- Life Manipulation (Magic is ultimately a manifestation of, and synonymous with life energy)
- Non-Physical Interaction (All wielders of magic can interact with either souls or intangible entities composed of it, such as Wisps, Wights, and Phantoms, as well as The Primordials)
- Chaos Manipulation (Magic is described to be chaotic, being older than the entirety of the Nine Realms and existing in the Ginnungagap as a primordial essence from which Ymir, a being of pure chaos and everything else spawned, said gap described as where chaos and order meet. Greek magic originates from Chaos herself, the conceptual source of all that exists in the Greek World, the Primordial of Life as well as the primordial chaos)
- Statistics Amplification (Magic is the source of all strength and power in the setting, independent of the shape and size of one's body)
- Energy Manipulation and Projection (Can be molded into various forms of energy or constructs)
Divine
This is the power specifically available to powerful gods and divine beings, a step above what innate soul magic is capable of.- All prior abilities.
- Probability Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Fire Manipulation & Ice Manipulation (Mighty enough battle can generate impossible materials such as the Chaos Flame and the Frozen Flame, the former being made up of the hottest fires of Muspelheim, which is that of Surtr's Primordial fire, which had birthed all the stars and suns, giving heat to the young cosmos. The latter is made up of the chilling Mists of Niflheim, and houses the rage of fire and the temper of ice)
- Space-Time Manipulation (Able to easily interact with Realm Tears, whichare holes in the fabricthat threaten the existence of individual realms, and can easily seal them off with just her raw strength alone, said holes also being noted by Mimir to be voids)
Layers of Soul Magic
Prefacing this section, as explained and already accepted on the magic explanation page of the setting, and in previous revisions;- All showcases of nullifying/absorbing magic would scale to showcases of affecting souls and vice-versa.
- Magic is innately capable of affecting other souls offensively and is inherent to one's soul.
- Gods innately resist their own fundamental magic.
- All below resistances and effects have been accepted already on the profiles.
- Ares's army which consists of Legionnaires, undead soldiers of Ares, and Wraiths, vengeful human spirits, had ripped and mangled the souls of Athenians by their hands during the siege of Athens. The Raiders transmute their own souls to give themselves animal traits. (Baseline)
- Over the millennium of Pandora's Temple being open to mortals, each one of those years mortal soldiers have been capable of entering the temple, but to do so they would need to pass the Desert of Lost Souls, which is only done by forcing the souls out of Sirens, as per Athena'swords. As countless mortals have survived these encounters with both Sirens and the very first monsters of the temple, over a millenium, they would at minimum be capable of withstanding their most basic abilities. (Baseline resistance)
- The Redeemed Warriors are mortals elevated as champions of the gods, far beyond their fellows. They are possessed of elemental power that can not only affect them but requires elemental resistance, both gifted by the gods' blessing to withstand it and each other's magics. (1 layer hax/resistance)
- The illusions of the Furies target the mind, body and soul, warp the victim's senses, and even distort the area around them, with Redeemed Warriors easily falling to this as well (2 layers). At first, Kratos, was affected but after he adapted he resisted this with proper focus on his mind or with the Eyes of Truth. (2 layers resistance)
- Later on, Kratos has to stop Persephone from trying to destroy the World Pillar and the Greek World. Persephone tries to persuade him into letting the gods die and attempts to send his mind to another realm, which Kratos, after initially being affected (3 layers), adapts to resist it and avoid having his body crushed by Atlas. (3 layers resistance)
- Years after that, during his journey to Pandora's Box, he is mentally attacked by Ares, the God of War, who possessed incrediblypowerfulmind-manipulating and telepathic powers. He casually caused Kratos' ribcage to ache and skin to split and bleed from mental attacks and the latter was utterly helpless agains them. (4 layers) In the climactic battle against Ares however, the latter has to rely on physically recreating the entire nightmare as a pocket dimension to mess with Kratos' mind. (4 layers resistance).
- Ares, getting fully serious, then strips Kratos of all of his powers with laughable ease, leaving him with just Hope and the Blade of the Gods. (5 layers hax/resistance)
- Zeus could easily do the same and strip God Kratos of his powers, and then implied Athena could do the same with ease. Said Kratos had inherited Ares's godhead and all of his innate magic. (6 layers hax/resistance)
- Poseidon is utterly immune to Athena's abilities. (6 layers resistance)
- Kratos, with the Blade of Olympus, stabs Athena and strips of her of her godly powers right before killing her. (7 layers hax)
- Resisted and parried Zeus' blows and lightning bolts many times, even when the latter wielded the Blade of Olympus against him. (7 layers resistance)
- When Kratos ascends Mount Olympus, to battle Zeus again with his army of Titans, Zeus himself had grown and adapted, being capable of utterly stripping Kratos's innate resistances to the River Styx away with a single bolt of lightning. (8 layers hax/resistance)
- Kratos in his final battle, had again adapted to Zeus's powers and is thus, unaffected by his lightning in the same manner. (9 layers resistance)
- When Fear fully manifests, it effortlessly destroys Kratos's lifeforce/magic with ease. The Great Evils and Hope imbue themselves within a being down to their very soul, affectingall of their mind, souland very powers as gods. (10 layers hax)
- When Kratos fully manifests Hope, he becomes utterly immune to Fear, and dispels it with ease. (10 layers hax/resistance)
As for Kratos stripping himself of Hope, since the Flame has the property of nullifying resistances and is but an emanation of Hope, it would not be counted towards these layers, and would just be factored into the resistance negation already on the page.
Page Name Changes
The current names of our explanation pages are needlessly wordy and verbose. Reducing them to God of War Cosmology and Magic (God of War) gets all necessary information across.Conceptual Invulnerability Removal (NEW)
It's currently listed as the following at the Hope Kratos key.- Conceptual Invulnerability (Type 1; After Kratos unlocked Hope, he became unaffected by the energies and the effects of Fear Zeus, who is the very concept of Fear itself. Athena confirms verbally that what Kratos wields could never be destroyed by Fear Zeus)
TL;DR
- General Abilities gets reorganized into Soul Magic, Innate and its higher level Divine.
- Conceptual Invulnerability can be removed from Hope Kratos.
- The layers of soul magic hax and resistances are reworked, capping at 10 layers.
- The explanation pages get renamed God of War Cosmology and Magic (God of War)
Agree: 11 (LephyrTheRevanchist (issues with Ares's layers), Dereck03, DarkDragonMedeus, Random-Helper323, Theglassman12, Vietthai96, Reiner04, KLOL506, Pepsimanlover, Felipe_Walker16, Kiryu-MG3)
Disagree:
Neutral:
Last edited:
