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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

ZERO7772 said:
All I see in Rika upscale.

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Yuta upscale as well
I remember people saying nobody in the new gen would surpass gojo and Sukuna
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Yuta upscale as well
I remember people saying nobody in the new gen would surpass gojo and Sukuna
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Yuta fans getting desprate.

I feel like if Yuta dwarf Sukuna, we would have heard of it by now. Cast only talk about Gojo and Yuji as "legendary sorceress"
 
ZERO7772 said:
Yuta fans getting desprate.

I feel like if Yuta dwarf Sukuna, we would have heard of it by now. Cast only talk about Gojo and Yuji as "legendary sorceress"
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I mean if yuta had the ring on him he could channel all that stored up CE better than tsurugi at the very least (still waaay weaker than yuji in base, cause I mean common you needed literal decades to pull all of that energy together and yuji just does it with the utmost casual ease)
 
ZERO7772 said:
Yuta fans getting desprate.

I feel like if Yuta dwarf Sukuna, we would have heard of it by now. Cast only talk about Gojo and Yuji as "legendary sorceress"
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Nothing about being desperate if we're being honest
The only time Gojo was called extraordinary is in chapter one

Why are we pretending like everyone is glazing both of them everytime

A Rika Upscale is a Yuta Upscale I'm sorry
 
Sir_sun_man said:
I mean if yuta had the ring on him he could channel all that stored up CE better than tsurugi at the very least (still waaay weaker than yuji in base, cause I mean common you needed literal decades to pull all of that energy together and yuji just does it with the utmost casual ease)
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I mean she used her normal output for that if we're being honest
 
Sir_sun_man said:
because it hit dozens of targets inside the tunnel dono how to tell ya this but we never see it exit the tunnel and the force of it exelerating past the speed of sound would be following the stream of blood causing a massive amount of kenetic energy to be dispersed through the air and with each target it hit it would cause even more energy to be dispersed further into the smoke left behind by the spirits and with no where to go the smoke would be pushed upwards by the immense level of energy produced by PB and the sonic boom that follows its use.

here's dismantle from sukuna

notice how it kicks up a massive amount of debris? wanna know why that happens? because dismantles are not some lasers they posses some type of mass and through their exeleration they knock up a massive amount of dust.

But hey its anime right? never happens in the manga right? well about that:
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Dismantle isn't some perfect cutting force that leaves no trace energy behind it after it is done cutting through something, traces amount of energy would still cause things to move upwards and downwards where ever it just cut through meaning as dismantle has done in the manga and the anime it is pretty in your face about, not to mention that again exelaration force is a thing dismantle will leave a wave of kenetic energy following its path as it cuts through the air.

but the issue again is in the fact that even if you cut them in half as over 40 images have demonstrated to you already, cursed spirits don't just instantly turn to dust meaning that again it wasn't them blowing up bythemselves but through the dismantle causing all of that to instantly happen KE still applies no matter how we slice it.
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The point isnt that neither dismantle or PB possesses KE its that acceleration and force are vectorial. They have a direction and in both the case of dismantle and PB its in the direction of its motion. The manga panel of sukunas slash here does accelerate debris but in the direction of the dismantle. Not just anywhere.

How curses die simply isnt consistent in the manga. Kenjaku uses a curse dying as a smokescreen where it pretty much is just a dust explosion without being in a confined space or sth. Same thing goes for maki slashing curses in the tunnel. You yourself said that it explodes like that because the natural property of the dust cloud expanding and the reason for its force being that it only leaves a small exit. So you already acknowledge that its a natural property of the curses dying. The same thing applies to this feat. The total volume of the dust is much greater than the volume the curse occupy. So naturally the curse dust expands into a huge cloud of a fixed volume and it would do so even without assuming additional KE from yuji. Lets simplify this a bit. If a curse of volume 1m^3 leaves 10m^3 that means that when the curse dies it already leaves an expanding smoke cloud since there is no pressure from the outside containing it. Sometimes curses die and the body slowly dissolves into dust and sometimes it happens more rapidly but the dust will always occupy a certain amount of volume. By that logic the reason behind the dust cloud taking up such a big volume isnt because of additional KE from yuji but because it would simply naturally do so anyway.

And GPE would fall under the same logic as KE so idk why youd even bring it up. The point is yuji isnt responsible for the dust cloud. If it werent for the curses the smoke wouldnt even be there. Yuji is only indirectly responsible for it by killing the curses. He should at most scale to whatever destruction his dismantle ended up causing.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
I mean if yuta had the ring on him he could channel all that stored up CE better than tsurugi at the very least (still waaay weaker than yuji in base, cause I mean common you needed literal decades to pull all of that energy together and yuji just does it with the utmost casual ease)
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The Tsurugi panel is the worst thing to happen to modern JJK power scaling no kidding. The amount of vague context and weird panels is outright horrible for viewers.
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Bro said doesn't outscale his strongest attack like any of sukuna and Gojo attack can destroy 6 kilometre worth of Cursed spirits

Hollow purple is only one that comes close and it's only 4 kilometres and that's an amped one

Rika and Yuji are on an another level I'm sorry
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Like thats not a range feat. Yall just hella biased for jjk upscales. But sure Gege wants yujis casual attack to outscale the strongest attacks of sukuna and gojo combined
 
ZERO7772 said:
The Tsurugi panel is the worst thing to happen to modern JJK power scaling no kidding. The amount of vague context and weird panels is outright horrible for viewers.
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It's just people who aren't reading it right
The panelling and the positioning of characters is easily shown
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Nothing about being desperate if we're being honest
The only time Gojo was called extraordinary is in chapter one

Why are we pretending like everyone is glazing both of them everytime

A Rika Upscale is a Yuta Upscale I'm sorry
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Mfs are not reading for Tsurugi/Maru > original manga debate.

Maru fought him blow to blow. Tsurigi upscale is maru upscale.
 
Hk1488 said:
Like thats not a range feat. Yall just hella biased for jjk upscales. But sure Gege wants yujis casual attack to outscale the strongest attacks of sukuna and gojo combined
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At 6 kilometres it's still capable of killing grade 2 cursed that a shotgun is almost not enough to kill

And have we forgotten dismantle and CE slashes reduces with range?
That a point blank dismantle and a dismantle from 5 metres is the difference between oneshot and take with skin cuts

For something to retain that amount of power at 6 kilometres puts him above Sukuna
Not even world slash has that range and that shit doesn't even interact with durability in the first place
 
Hk1488 said:
Like thats not a range feat. Yall just hella biased for jjk upscales. But sure Gege wants yujis casual attack to outscale the strongest attacks of sukuna and gojo combined
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MHA fan talking about sum “author intention.” Like yeah, I’m sure Kohei “Mach 10 Prime All Might” Horikoshi meant for him to move at FTL speeds and wipe out continents.
 
Im not gonna continue this debate for the time being cuse I already wasted more than enough time today on looking through the entirety of JJK but;
Hk1488 said:
How curses die simply isnt consistent in the manga.
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just because out of over 45 examples of curses dying there are a grand total of 4 violent irruptions of smoke (with each and every single one of them having reason for why that happens be it due to the funnel effect or a literal explosion causing it which came from an outside source like hazanoki or choso) does not mean that they are all of sudden inconsistent when in literally 90% of cases they slowly disolve and turn to smoke.
Hk1488 said:
Kenjaku uses a curse dying as a smokescreen where it pretty much is just a dust explosion without being in a confined space or sth. Same thing goes for maki slashing curses in the tunnel.
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friend have ya ever seen a smoke bomb in action? it doesn't instantly explode into a bunch of smoke it simply spreads it somewhat quick to make a smoke screen that is exactly what kenny did with the curses.

but again I am putting this debate on the bench from my end for the time being I wanna do something different today than spend another 2 hours on this debate (hell its probably gonna be pointless next week anyway)
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
At 6 kilometres it's still capable of killing grade 2 cursed that a shotgun is almost not enough to kill

And have we forgotten dismantle and CE slashes reduces with range?
That a point blank dismantle and a dismantle from 5 metres is the difference between oneshot and take with skin cuts

For something to retain that amount of power at 6 kilometres puts him above Sukuna
Not even world slash has that range and that shit doesn't even interact with durability in the first place
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Yeah I also believe yuji is currently top 1/2 and above sukuna. Just not to a point where 1% output dismantle negs sukuna
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Idk it seems like she punched the ice block and broke the finger
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So bro didn't even damage her
ZERO7772 said:
mfs acting like Maru getting stomped even tho he's been fighting her for 2 chapters 😭
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Bro he got stomped
Zero hits landed
Zero damage
7 times his technique was brute forced

I think it's time for the Maru agenda to hang the coat
 
Sakamaki_Fuji said:
MHA fan talking about sum “author intention.” Like yeah, I’m sure Kohei “Mach 10 Prime All Might” Horikoshi meant for him to move at FTL speeds and wipe out continents.
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Why me dawg I was fighting my ass off to get mha downgraded from multi continental to large island level in the crt(didnt really work due to weird multipliers). Also believe they arent anywhere near relativistic
 
honestly the only verse with more inconsistent speed scaling than MHA is demon slayer I mean my god the fastest dude in the verse could barely do a massively hypersonic speed feat while pushing himself to his limits but no! no! no! he is relativistic+ trust boys lets just do some more calc stacking while the strongest upper moon barely manages to deflect a shotgun blast.
 
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Sir_sun_man said:
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ok these are all the instances of a cursed spirit biting the big one and you might notice something, with the exeption of these 4 instances

(hazanoki the bomb boy himself sets of a massive explosion killing multiple spirits)
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(maki killing a bunch of spirits in a tunnel and rushing out of it)
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(choso killing a bunch of spirits with piercing blood while yuji is rushing out of the tunnel)
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(choso setting of a supernova in front of a bunch of spirits)
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cursed spirits die and slowly fizzle out of existence, they don't explode or violently erupt they slowly turn to smoke and there is a little line of similarity between these 4 exeptions as well and what are they you ask? well 2 of them are literally caused by someone setting off an explosion themselves (supernova and hazanoki using his body part bombs) or we have a bunch of cursed spirits killed in a confined space with the tunnel exits or vents acting as a funnel from which the smoke created by the passing of the spirits is pushed out through the force applied to it by something moving increadibly quickly be it yuji with the conjunction of choso's piercing blood or maki just quickly existing the tunnel meaning that we have a bunch of smoke focused under a ton of pressure in a single point so of course it would look like an explosion

So KE calc fully applies to yuji's and rika's feat as we see here:
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and here:

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the curses are all above the city sky line meaning there is no funnel point meaning that the massive fuсk off blast was caused by yuji's dismantle having enough energy to just send off all that smoke into the stratosphere same goes for rika doing it

and before anyone trys something like "oh its an art style change" card:
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no

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it isn't
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Stand proud you saved JJK
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
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Stand proud you saved JJK
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brother man I didn't save shit, half of this is near certainly gonna be worthless when mr.relativistic+ himself is gonna do some high 6-C hyper attack next chapter to make me suffer more cuse I know that cyclops cat is somewhere in this thread and is specifically trying to fuсk me up.
 
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