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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Ralp0054 said:
So, the feat Yuji showed was only one-two level higher than what's already on his profile, that's all.
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Bro ignored the Island level calc and focused on the City level ond
#LowlevelRagebait
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Finished up the calc and it has a bunch of ends depending on what the calc mods want. Well it's KE so it's kind of high
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Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
 
Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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That dust cloud rose 11km. maybe a curse that scatters dust that high when it explodes must be around 5-6km.
 
Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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Hey, man. Proper names (people, places, organizations, specific products) are capitalized in English because they are proper nouns. It is Maki, not "maki".
 
Ralp0054 said:
So, the feat Yuji showed was only one-two level higher than what's already on his profile, that's all.
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To avoid misunderstanding, I need to repeat myself. I made this comment because I don't see the possibility of this "KE" being accepted. Is it acceptable?
 
Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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People clowning on you for your grammar but this is high key better than 90% of messages on the Genshin discussion thread so props for that
 
Giannysmag said:
People clowning on you for your grammar but this is high key better than 90% of messages on the Genshin discussion thread so props for that
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Not even my grammar its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD. I mean it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesnt come from Yuji and I highy doubt its even quantifiable
 
Hk1488 said:
Not even my grammar its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD.
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Ngl same
Hk1488 said:
I mean it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesnt come from Yuji and I highy doubt its even quantifiable
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I get that, after some discussion offsite I also think it's the curse dust that caused the explosion but I can't pass up on some juice Yuji upgrades either
 
Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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Hk1488 said:
Not even my grammar its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD. I mean it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesnt come from Yuji and I highy doubt its even quantifiable
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Not even my grammar, its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD. I mean, it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to be like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesn't come from Yuji and I highly doubt its even quantifiable.
9/10
 
Hk1488 said:
Not even my grammar its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD. I mean it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesnt come from Yuji and I highy doubt its even quantifiable
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Other then the small grammar mistakes, yeah. I agree.
A 10 kilometer explosion is city (since the calc used the radius, its 5 km, hence the small town results).
It reaching all the way to island when every other method of calculating it is not even in the range of it is a bit much.
But, Abaddon did this calculation inmind that KE wasn't going to get accepted at all, so I don't see the use yammering abt it not being there when he already knows.
 
Hk1488 said:
Not even my grammar its my tiny keyboard and me typing too fast xD. I mean it should be pretty clear that his dismantle has nothing to do with the KE or potential energy of the dust. The dust explosion is the natural reaction of a dying curse and this just happens to like a hundred thousand curses at once. The energy for it doesnt come from Yuji and I highy doubt its even quantifiable
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Which cursed spirit could scatter dust into the troposphere?
 
Hk1488 said:
Holy wank. When will yall accept this has NOTHING to do with KE. Firstly we have no idea what density curse dust or curses themselves have so this is already baseless secondly we have no reason to assume dismantle just causes an explosion and thirdly we DO in fact see curses violently explode throughout the manga. Uraume blatantly states it in chaoter 216, Kenjaku uses a curse dust explosion to block the vision of his oponent, when choso hits a handful of curses with PB(which should have no business accelerating the curse dust upwards) in chapter 139 they violenlty explode out of the tunnel and the dust rises rapidly. Same thing happens when maki killed a bunch of curses in a tunnel. We literally see them exploding naturally after being slashed in the panel prior to the dust clouds.
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  1. It's why its an estimate off the fact that curses are typically organic in some sense.
  2. I don't even agree with KE. Like I said in a previous message I did that end as a way to just cover all bases. Also why the explosion end is there even though arguably it's worthless. It's why I put the GPE end of the dust cause I doubted KE was going to be accepted but I was sure if I didn't do it someone else will so might as well dump it all in at once.
  3. I'm still of the opinion that dismantle likely did something. While yes we see curses violently explode before it wasn't to this degree and not to this height. Whenever we see the blasts, even in the panel above where the curses blow up, the dust blasts are usually somewhat even in terms of size while with this they literally shoot upward. It's also unlike the Choso one where it's kind of just floating up like smoke since these ones essentially shoot upward which is why I think it may still count.
 
Ralp0054 said:
You seem certain that Ke will not be accepted. Could you provide a little more information?
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There’s rules about KE and environment destruction. If the KE doesn’t match the destruction to the environment then it’s automatically made null.
Technically we don’t know if the environment reflects this or not because… we don’t see it (lol) but it should be noted that the slashes occurred mid air, not on the ground, so KE should be acceptable
 
BiggestOpp said:
There’s rules about KE and environment destruction. If the KE doesn’t match the destruction to the environment then it’s automatically made null.
Technically we don’t know if the environment reflects this or not because… we don’t see it (lol) but it should be noted that the slashes occurred mid air, not on the ground, so KE should be acceptable
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There's technically an exception to this. Which is if the KE of the object isn't halted by the little damage it causes. Like if a sphere several meters large is moving with Tier 6 KE, and punches right through a building and continues into space, that wouldn't discredit it cuz most of the KE is still obviously within the ball. Not an issue here, but just a general thing.

Obviously if the ball stopped and lost its KE from that amount of destruction then KE gets nuked.
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
  1. It's why its an estimate off the fact that curses are typically organic in some sense.
  2. I don't even agree with KE. Like I said in a previous message I did that end as a way to just cover all bases. Also why the explosion end is there even though arguably it's worthless. It's why I put the GPE end of the dust cause I doubted KE was going to be accepted but I was sure if I didn't do it someone else will so might as well dump it all in at once.
  3. I'm still of the opinion that dismantle likely did something. While yes we see curses violently explode before it wasn't to this degree and not to this height. Whenever we see the blasts, even in the panel above where the curses blow up, the dust blasts are usually somewhat even in terms of size while with this they literally shoot upward. It's also unlike the Choso one where it's kind of just floating up like smoke since these ones essentially shoot upward which is why I think it may still count.
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1. The curses seem to take up way less than 1% of the total volume
2. My point isnt whether it should be KE or GPE its that yuji isnt resonsible for the dust cloud. He triggered a natural reaction that happens when a curse dies. I can set up a bomb doesnt mean I scale to it. Same thing here. Attacks that have no reason to cause curse dust to spread ir rise upwards still do, not because of the energy behind the attack but because of the natural reaction of the curses dying. In this case its possibly hundreds of thousands of curses dying at once which is why its so extreme. It doesnt make sense to say Yujis dismantle is responsible for it. So none of these ends end up making sense because we are scaling the dust cloud(not yujis direct doing) rather than his actual dismantle.
3. Choso had a similar effect(shooting upwards). It isnt necessarily consistent throughout the series but the intend of the panel prior seems to be to show that its curse dust. But Ig we will see next chapter what the dismantle ended up doing
 
Hk1488 said:
1. The curses seem to take up way less than 1% of the total volume
2. My point isnt whether it should be KE or GPE its that yuji isnt resonsible for the dust cloud. He triggered a natural reaction that happens when a curse dies. I can set up a bomb doesnt mean I scale to it. Same thing here. Attacks that have no reason to cause curse dust to spread ir rise upwards still do, not because of the energy behind the attack but because of the natural reaction of the curses dying. In this case its possibly hundreds of thousands of curses dying at once which is why its so extreme. It doesnt make sense to say Yujis dismantle is responsible for it. So none of these ends end up making sense because we are scaling the dust cloud(not yujis direct doing) rather than his actual dismantle.
3. Choso had a similar effect(shooting upwards). It isnt necessarily consistent throughout the series but the intend of the panel prior seems to be to show that its curse dust. But Ig we will see next chapter what the dismantle ended up doing
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  1. The 1% volume thing is something that's been used for dust clouds before which is why I used that. Also the curses isn't what the 1% is referring to it's the dust they release in the air.
  2. I already covered that in my 3rd point but I don't think either of us are gonna change the other's view (cause we and others have both been arguing these sides since the leaks came out) unless something from a new chapter comes out that either debunks or confirms it. Want to just wait til the next chapter?
 
Hk1488 said:
1. The curses seem to take up way less than 1% of the total volume
2. My point isnt whether it should be KE or GPE its that yuji isnt resonsible for the dust cloud. He triggered a natural reaction that happens when a curse dies. I can set up a bomb doesnt mean I scale to it. Same thing here. Attacks that have no reason to cause curse dust to spread ir rise upwards still do, not because of the energy behind the attack but because of the natural reaction of the curses dying. In this case its possibly hundreds of thousands of curses dying at once which is why its so extreme. It doesnt make sense to say Yujis dismantle is responsible for it. So none of these ends end up making sense because we are scaling the dust cloud(not yujis direct doing) rather than his actual dismantle.
3. Choso had a similar effect(shooting upwards). It isnt necessarily consistent throughout the series but the intend of the panel prior seems to be to show that its curse dust. But Ig we will see next chapter what the dismantle ended up doing
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The KE of the dust cloud is consistently way less than the AP of the character's who cause it. Even if you math'd it out with thousands of Curses, that level of KE wouldn't even be remotely close to possible. It would likely have to be billions of Curses to generate a cloud that massive. And it's quite evident there's not that many there. So all that extra energy could only come from Yuji's dismantle.
 
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