EldemadeDityjon
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Dabura sees barrier technique in 0.01s and spams his own Domain or learns DA on his own and beats Gojo and asks him what's its called.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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OjeTheArcher15
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Nothing States that really if we're being honest
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EldemadeDityjon
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Are you talking about Rika or Todo?
Since Tsurugi seemed like sacrificed his CE and got HR with BV. Rika just lost the CE she had after that blast and fell off from what I understand
Todo is clearly mentioned as ex first grade
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We treat it as adding. So it'd be 20%+20%+20%+20%+20% (Which would be 0.2*Number of BF)
As opposed to 1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2*1.2 (Which would be 1.2^8 which is what you did)
OjeTheArcher15
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Rika
She didn't sacrifice her entire energy
Since she didn't instantly disappear after that release of energy
Maru just states he undid the transformation and Tsurugi CE was reducing
Not like Maru believed Rika CE is from Tsurugi in the first place
She didn't sacrifice her entire energy
Since she didn't instantly disappear after that release of energy
Maru just states he undid the transformation and Tsurugi CE was reducing
Not like Maru believed Rika CE is from Tsurugi in the first place
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Ahhh, why is it treated as addition though?
EldemadeDityjon
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Are you reading TCB or some other translation? since Tbc states it's over not undid
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Just think the consensus was that it makes more sense cuz it raised Yuji, Mahito, and Todo's potential to 120% (A 20% increase). So it seemed more likely it was additive than multiplicative. Also cuz the wiki is conservative.
OjeTheArcher15
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Oh yeah
But the argument still stands
Also TCB probably mistranslated it since the kanji is
変身を解いた?
"解い" means undo
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… Am I the only one that thinks that’s weird?
It raising todo Yuji and mahito’s potential to 120% doesn’t prove its additive.
It’s bringing out 120% of their potential, that’s the black flash amp.
If someone uses it again it should be bringing out an additional 120% of their potential.
Idek how addition was even agreed upon I don’t see the logic in that
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I think it's mostly cuz it's never stated to bring out 120% of 120%. If we get too carried away the wiki will just nuke it entirely too :/
EldemadeDityjon
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Why TBC actually taking Ls in Modulo
Anyway going by context Maru is questioning what had happened but since we see next attack after the Big slash implied to be weakened (too shallow) against a nerfed Maru. I think it's not far from Rikas stored CE energy was used up.
OjeTheArcher15
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Why TBC actually taking Ls in Modulo
Anyway going by context Maru is questioning what had happened but since we see next attack after the Big slash implied to be weakened (too shallow) against a nerfed Maru. I think it's not far from Rikas stored CE energy was used up.
I mean it being shallow doesn't really mean her CE was used up if we're being honest
It just means it wasn't strong enough to go deep
The fact Rika could exist after the ring entire CE was used up even if for a while is kinda unconvincing
More plausible that he used up the technique.[/ISPOILER]
It just means it wasn't strong enough to go deep
The fact Rika could exist after the ring entire CE was used up even if for a while is kinda unconvincing
More plausible that he used up the technique.[/ISPOILER]
EldemadeDityjon
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I think you are looking deep into "used up" words here. I mean when It's "used up" more like nearing the limit and getting too low on CE. Rika doesn't have infinite CE she has high amount of it that's all.
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If I understand things correctly it does stack. There’s numerous scenes where landing consecutive BFs increase your output/ramps you up further. There’s some slop with Sukuna and Gojo but I think the best example is Mahito, his understanding increased of his soul increased with the first black flash but he needed a second one to fully grasp his transformation, if it didn’t stack, he would have awakened with the first BF.
Yall are jjk supports, never take shit for less.
Reach for the stars
It just seems odd to me that it could be addition, bringing out 120% of your current self isn’t addition, that’s multiplication and it’s confirmed stackable
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increase by 120% is multiplying by 1.2
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The weirdos think Meguna wins. The intellectuals know Heiankuna negs (if you give him WCS)
OjeTheArcher15
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Issue there's a limit to how much CE one can output at a time and Cursed objects don't run out of CE
The ring has decades of cursed energy within it
So meaning Tsurugi outputted what awakened Rika and Yuta couldn't output at once?
Seriously doubt it
EldemadeDityjon
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if CE objects doesn't run out of CE why Yuta needs to pump CE and store in the ring? This may be a special case. We know Ring had huge amount of CE. It didn't give status boost rather than what we saw was CE as in storage from Maru statement. Also Rika already had 5min countdown mode?
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The weirdos think Meguna wins. The intellectuals know Heiankuna negs (if you give him WCS)
OjeTheArcher15
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Because Rika acts as a storage to fill up his CE
Bro Yuta needed a death binding vow to push past his CE output limits
5 minutes mode is different from awakened Rika
Awakened Rika is the one who have passed her limits of cursed output
We don't see that for Tsurika so I seriously doubt he used up more CE than Ryu fight that needed an awakened Rika to reach a new level of output
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The paging is still silly and vague, even with TCB scans. Why is there no change in Tsurugi's stance whatsoever? Maru doesn't react to him somehow doing 100x his usual output either. Arguing the 2 attacks at this point is pointless; we should wait until the next chapter
If Tsurika can output this much damage, then the Yuji feat isn't that impressive, and Sukuna should still slaughter maru and Tsurigi.
If Tsurika can output this much damage, then the Yuji feat isn't that impressive, and Sukuna should still slaughter maru and Tsurigi.
EldemadeDityjon
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Do you have raws for first one and Rikas case about reaching a new level is because of she got angry not because of other conditions. Yuta didn't used her in Shinjuku.
Because Rika acts as a storage to fill up his CE
Bro Yuta needed a death binding vow to push past his CE output limits
5 minutes mode is different from awakened Rika
Awakened Rika is the one who have passed her limits of cursed output
We don't see that for Tsurika so I seriously doubt he used up more CE than Ryu fight that needed an awakened Rika to reach a new level of output
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Bloke said Rika causing the second boom is Yuji downscale and Sukuna upscale.
Who gone tell him 80yr old Yuta lowk dogging Sukuna
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I have so many theories about the ring and Tsurugi that'll prolly be answered next week.
But right now I truly wonder if Yuta even stored CE for decades? When it could've just been his regular amount that everyone except Sukuna sees as virtually boundless and impossible for a normal person to possess. So Maru just assumes its accumulated CE?
Completely spitballing though since Rika does store Yuta's excess CE passively anyway, but Rika nor Tsurugi would be able to output it in one shot under normal circumstances, especially not enough to use up all of it.
It also seems as if Tsurugi made a BV to give up Rika in exchange for gaining his full HR.
Unlike Maki, Tsurugi isn't bound by a twin and needs to give up something himself to gain his full power like Maki said in chap 1. So I believe he did that this chapter. Giving up the ring, his connection to Rika and his grandfather in a sense and even curse energy as a whole becoming fully void.
Maybe a "In exchange for powering this slash, take all my curse energy and my ability to wield the ring." or something.
But right now I truly wonder if Yuta even stored CE for decades? When it could've just been his regular amount that everyone except Sukuna sees as virtually boundless and impossible for a normal person to possess. So Maru just assumes its accumulated CE?
Completely spitballing though since Rika does store Yuta's excess CE passively anyway, but Rika nor Tsurugi would be able to output it in one shot under normal circumstances, especially not enough to use up all of it.
It also seems as if Tsurugi made a BV to give up Rika in exchange for gaining his full HR.
Unlike Maki, Tsurugi isn't bound by a twin and needs to give up something himself to gain his full power like Maki said in chap 1. So I believe he did that this chapter. Giving up the ring, his connection to Rika and his grandfather in a sense and even curse energy as a whole becoming fully void.
Maybe a "In exchange for powering this slash, take all my curse energy and my ability to wield the ring." or something.
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Agenda brainrot is real. Maru was fighting Tsurika blow to blow. If he could one shot him he would have done so.Bloke said Rika causing the second boom is Yuji downscale and Sukuna upscale.
Who gone tell him 80yr old Yuta lowk dogging Sukuna
We really trying to argue Tsurugi solo the og manga now.
OjeTheArcher15
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I know but I'm saying anytime she surpasses her cursed energy output her eyes opens this happens even when a binding vow is made so it also applies here
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Well Yuta couldn't use her in Shinjuku cause he needed her to get Gojo's body, so he used her unmanifested state until he could
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True, but although the attack needed some wind-up and it cost Rika most of her energy it seems. The attack she did right afterwards was so weak it only did a shallow cut on Maru, and even at the beginning of the fight, she did more damage than that.
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Or maybe Rika was playing around. Like fr think about it. Rika had the SSK and other cursed tools in her back pocket the whole time and just didn’t pull them out until just now.
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I mean, landing a hit on Sukuna and doing damage is fair game, idk why pointing out he landed it once discredits that.
OjeTheArcher15
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It didn't
Rika can't increase her output above normal level without opening her eye
Maru took that attack fair and square
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I don't think because her output can't be increased beyond a certain level suddenly means her attacks suddenly deal shallow cuts to Maru. I mention again prior to this point with just her fists (not even with SSK) she was performing far more impressively than that.
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