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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

BiggestOpp said:
please list the feats that rule him out
Narratively, why would Gege even make this segment if Gojo was far stronger than the Gojo who made this statement? What would even be the point?
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It's not narratively talking about same version that background was when Gojo was asking Miguel to teach Yuta so it goes back to JJK0.
Even stronger version of True form Sukuna was getting damaged from Yuta and Yuji. If JJK0 Gojo and Shinjuku showdown Gojo had same sts

JJK0 Gojo ~ Miguel < Yuta & Yuji < Shinjuku showdown Gojo ~ JJK0 Gojo?
 
BiggestOpp said:
High diff? A massively weakened Sukuna was tanking attacks from Miguel using his CT (meaning Miguel gets an amp while Sukuna gets a debuff), Miguel without his CT is confirmed stronger than Gojo by the bottom 5 king himself.
Meguna was lowk getting worked by Gojo in the domains, Heinkuna makes him look like that one rabbit that went blow for blow with Toji.
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Using JJK0 Gojo scaling (It's so bad JJK Supports genuinely believe we should give him a key just for that)...
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even if you wanted to say he scaled to present Gojo for some stupid reason, Shinjuku Gojo said himself that he did some training in the month timeskip AND said he won't be holding back, imply any other previous showing of Gojo to be inferior, so backscaling doesn't work
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Cope cope Yap yap
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When I say narratively, I meant that Gege is trying to paint a picture that Miguel is extremely strong.
If the difference between the two was so massive that it didn’t matter, this segment wouldn’t make sense at all.
The scaling chain doesn’t even hold up do you the interest scaling.
Miguel is interesting because he’s that strong, he’s a Gojo level fighter

Anonymous_Learner said:
More yap
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The training in question was soul swapping to hammer down other people’s knowledge of jujutsu into somebody else. The difference is negligent probably nonexistent
 
BiggestOpp said:
please list the feats that rule him out
Narratively, why would Gege even make this segment if Gojo was far stronger than the Gojo who made this statement? What would even be the point?
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Shinjuku Gojo= JJK0 Gojo =< Geto with Rika(would have won against Gojo in jjk0) ~ Geto without Rika(has stats similar to Rika with playfull cloud) =< Kenjaku (better showings and "narrative" than Geto)< Yuki physicals(first punch could have one shot him and prior to RCT never got a clean hit like that again so any other showing is a nerfed Yuki) < Toji (was called superhuman by her) = Maki.
Maki upscale always is correct, Gregregory revealed
that to me in my dreams.

But seriously, Jjk0 is at best heavy hitter level trough multiple different comparisons, statements and scaling chains that it is so funny that Awakened Teen Gojo is suposed to be a blitz one shot above that tier.
 
Sukuna was going blow for blow with 8BF boosted Yuji.
This is a Yuji amped over 4x in terms of strength.
Sukuna is constantly getting weaker from each BF and he has no interest in Yuji.
Sukuna was GLAZING Maki meaning Maki is over 4x stronger than Yuji.
 
4 hands Sukuna was getting dog walked physically by Yuta and Yuji. He needed WCS to break free from them. While Maki fought at best 2 hands Sukuna with Soul damaged heart. Not to mention she literally does zero physical damage comparable anywhere to Yuji and Yuta. All her feats are based on speed comparision to them at best. Throwing Durability arguments if needed at worst case. There is zero feats support that she can hit hard as Yuta and Yuji. Beside like Arkenis said CG Yuji heavily injured was keeping up with Maki against nerfed Sukuna. There was nothing indicates she outscaling Yuta and Yuji.
 
Arkenis said:
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Can someone calc this? It's gotta be impressive, that building looks 10 meters away from the road and he got in from a different window.
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If I remember correctly the bridge alone is 12m wide
You can calculate how far the parts of the car was launched then compared with Maki to get a speed figure
 
Arkenis said:
You mean Yuji, Yuta, six different cursed techniques, Rika and he was forced into using HWB, so just two hands.

Whole community doesn't read this ******* manga
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He had 4 damn good hands so his output would be way better than having less 2 hands.
He didn't had JL nuked him at that time
He didn't had heart damage at that time
He didn't had Soul damage at that time
So obviously you can't read bruh.
Yuta and Yuji already started overpowering Sukuna in chapter 251 start where he didn't had any nerfs. Sukuna also used his CT to defend himself. Also I didn't even mentioned anything about Chapter 250 because you are bringing that up. Which is irrelevant.
 
Sakamaki_Fuji said:
Megumi almost got slimed by a Grade 2 because Gojo wanted to go buy some bullshit instead of doing his job 🥀
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That was Megumi's fault bro he was supposed to just take some abandoned finger and instead got blitzed by random highschooler. He could potentially prevent Sukuna if he did his job properly
 
Sukuna almost lost to the Yuta/Yuji team-up, although there were many factors that pushed him to such an extent. Scaling pre-awakened Yuji above Maki isn't very valid, I think. He only started doing better than her after he awakened.

Although relying on who "Sukuna praise" isn't very reliable either. Yuji by far, had the best showing against him, yet when it's Yuji he just starts seething.
 
Well, Yuta damaged Sukuna even outside the domain.
Also, Yuta and Rika might be amped, so how is that going to affect Yuji’s stats?
Maki clearly lacks statements and feats.
Gojo consistently praises Yuta and Hakari throughout the series as having the greatest potential. When Yuji became the vessel, Gojo started hyping him as well. Then you have Gojo mentioning that Todo will surpass Special Grade in one of the panels, even though Maki was also a Jujutsu High student at the time.
Gojo already has knowledge of Heavenly Restriction and has fought Toji, yet he never states anything about HR having exceptional or unmatched potential.
I think it’s consistent that Yuta, Hakari, and Yuji are portrayed as having higher potential than Maki and Toji.
Maki and CG Yuji were already relative.
Yuji had six Death Paintings and soul-swap training; the same goes for Yuta and Hakari.
Saying Shinjuku Yuta and Yuji are still relative to Maki doesn’t make sense. Not to mention, iirc, there was even a statement from Gege that Shinjuku Maki is on Toji’s level, and we don’t have any training statements or methods for Heavenly Restriction that would make her growth comparable to whatever the Potential characters like Yuta and Yuji went through.
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Yuta was landing hits even without domain if we're being honest
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You mean the one punch? While Sukuna had to also stop Rika behind him?

EldemadeDityjon said:
Yuta and Yuji already started overpowering Sukuna in chapter 251 start where he didn't had any nerfs. Sukuna also used his CT to defend himself. Also I didn't even mentioned anything about Chapter 250 because you are bringing that up. Which is irrelevant.
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Soul punches and constantly supplying HWB with CE are nerfs. I get Yuji and Yuta need anything to get them over MAKI but this ain't the way. And 250 is when they fight, prior to that they don't do anything so what are you talking about if not 250 & 251?
 
Arkenis said:
awww he did a lil weee punch to Sukuna. You're deadass bringing up Yuta and Yuji beating up an old man on his dying breath as feats.
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Having something is better than Nothing like Maki
Show me a single feat from her damaging Sukuna without SSK or LS advantage. Which Yuji also did.
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well, Yuta damaged Sukuna even outside the domain.
Also, Yuta and Rika might be amped, so how is that going to affect Yuji’s stats?
Maki clearly lacks statements and feats.
Gojo consistently praises Yuta and Hakari throughout the series as having the greatest potential. When Yuji became the vessel, Gojo started hyping him as well. Then you have Gojo mentioning that Todo will surpass Special Grade in one of the panels, even though Maki was also a Jujutsu High student at the time.
Gojo already has knowledge of Heavenly Restriction and has fought Toji, yet he never states anything about HR having exceptional or unmatched potential.
I think it’s consistent that Yuta, Hakari, and Yuji are portrayed as having higher potential than Maki and Toji.
Maki and CG Yuji were already relative.
Yuji had six Death Paintings and soul-swap training; the same goes for Yuta and Hakari.
Saying Shinjuku Yuta and Yuji are still relative to Maki doesn’t make sense. Not to mention, iirc, there was even a statement from Gege that Shinjuku Maki is on Toji’s level, and we don’t have any training statements or methods for Heavenly Restriction that would make her growth comparable to whatever the Potential characters like Yuta and Yuji went through.
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Anyway narratively HR doesn't have any statement for being on with Yuta and Yuji level.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Ok but what did Maki do other than sneak Sukuna? SSK did most of the heavy work alongside her LS. Mind you, Maki was picking up AFTER Yuji and Yuta's onslaught and sneaked him with the SSK and made him take soul damage. Other than that, she physically didn't do much if not anything.
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She helped Sukuna get an arousal and hit 2 blackflashes.

Thank you Maki.
 
Yeah I think that second dust explosion is Tsurika until further notice.
Maru explicitly says Tsurika wasn't aiming for him and he was gonna be rotten by killing the curses to weaken Maru.
And Dabura last we saw him was still thinking about his next move, cause if he misjudged the usage of his technique, he would give Mahoraga a chance to adapt and that'd be the end of him.
 
OjeTheArcher15 said:
Not really
He might have quit later
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Hard to believe dude retired as Grade 1 only
Gokukid2005 said:
Yeah I think that second dust explosion is Tsurika until further notice.
Maru explicitly says Tsurika wasn't aiming for him and he was gonna be rotten by killing the curses to weaken Maru.
And Dabura last we saw him was still thinking about his next move, cause if he misjudged the usage of his technique, he would give Mahoraga a chance to adapt and that'd be the end of him.
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Funny thing is dude used up all of storage at that point to create that I guess since second attack doesn't do much damage lol. Even if Tsurika did it that shit ain't some casual thing which he can spam numerous times.
 
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