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STAGE SELECT: PRETTY DERBY CONCERT ARENA
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| Spider-Man {15.08 kilotons}: 0 | Paula {25.61 kilotons}: 0 | Incon: 0 |
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Town-level Tiersetter Tournament, Round 7: Spider-Man vs Paula
- Thread starter Naito-desu
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Wow this PnA section is hot ass.
Anyways, since I actively advocated for this Spidey's profile to be made, I will speak on this. To start, it's going to be a pain in the butt to actually hit Peter due to his time manipulation via his web rush, which stops time before very slowly resuming it in increments. This lets him actively search for ways to avoid getting hit and plan his next actions. His Spider-Sense also increases his perception to the point of seeing the world in a standstill, also giving him 360° vision.
Paula's forcefields are also going to be rendered null entirely, cause Peter can disable that shit permanently. If he gets up close, he can also just strike all of her pressure points, he has that stuff memorized. He also has access to a variety of suits as standard equipment, his most lethal one being the Spider-Carnage suit, which is him bonded with the Carnage symbiote (go figure). This gives him some strong ass regeneration, the ability to split himself into multiple versions, and most importantly infect people with a single cut.
Anyways, since I actively advocated for this Spidey's profile to be made, I will speak on this. To start, it's going to be a pain in the butt to actually hit Peter due to his time manipulation via his web rush, which stops time before very slowly resuming it in increments. This lets him actively search for ways to avoid getting hit and plan his next actions. His Spider-Sense also increases his perception to the point of seeing the world in a standstill, also giving him 360° vision.
Paula's forcefields are also going to be rendered null entirely, cause Peter can disable that shit permanently. If he gets up close, he can also just strike all of her pressure points, he has that stuff memorized. He also has access to a variety of suits as standard equipment, his most lethal one being the Spider-Carnage suit, which is him bonded with the Carnage symbiote (go figure). This gives him some strong ass regeneration, the ability to split himself into multiple versions, and most importantly infect people with a single cut.
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So from a glance in stats, Paula definitely has the edge in AP (By 1.698x) and lifting strength (Class M VS Class K), and the both of them have similar range with their attacks being hundreds of meters.
Ability-wise, Peter does have some concerning abilities that might give Paula trouble like his Spidey-Sense (As with all Spider-Men) that would allow him to perception-blitz his opponents with ease by amping his own speed (How this went unchecked prior to the round starting is beyond me), but at the same time, Paula does have abilities that could give Spidey trouble should they land like PSI Freeze which has a 50% of freezing Peter, PK Fire which is AoE-based, Offense Up which can amp Paula's own Attack to make her hit harder, and Defense Down which can reduce Spidey's Defense to make him take more damage. Forcefields should be a non-factor since those only block PSI attacks and Spidey isn't a PSI user lol.
Ability-wise, Peter does have some concerning abilities that might give Paula trouble like his Spidey-Sense (As with all Spider-Men) that would allow him to perception-blitz his opponents with ease by amping his own speed (How this went unchecked prior to the round starting is beyond me), but at the same time, Paula does have abilities that could give Spidey trouble should they land like PSI Freeze which has a 50% of freezing Peter, PK Fire which is AoE-based, Offense Up which can amp Paula's own Attack to make her hit harder, and Defense Down which can reduce Spidey's Defense to make him take more damage. Forcefields should be a non-factor since those only block PSI attacks and Spidey isn't a PSI user lol.
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Yeah, that would generally be an issue for most characters, but funnily enough, in lore Peter has already survived through and beaten such odds stacked against him. Despite the cross-species Scorpion being twice as strong as him (written in Oscorp's databanks), Pete fought him twice and won with relatively minor hardship. Hell, the first time was during an 18+ hour non-stop marathon of fixing New York's shit.
I dunno, not my submission so I can't determine the thought process.
Most dangerous one here. How is this used for the record? Cause with his Web Rush, Pete can stop time and slowly resume it to find the best way to zip on out of the way.
Peter also has suits that lets him resist fire, namely the Iron-Spider suit in his possession. I know its iffy to bring up multiple suits as if he can switch mid battle, but they are all under his standard equipment, so bleh.
As said before, Spidey has dealt with such overwhelming odds in his own game.
Oh, well that isn't an issue then, I thought it would be pretty tough to deal with.
I will also point out Pete's absolutely cracked endurance. The dude could take extreme punishment such as being thrown through multiple walls as a de-powered, poisoned, normal human being and keep chugging along. Hell, dude actually died and kept fighting right after being resuscitate without complications, and went on to shock and fry himself just to get rid of the poisonous nano-bots in his body.
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I saw an ability on her profile that is basically an instant KO dura neg attack. Is that a projectile or a "This spawns on you like a Domain Expansion" type of attack?
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I'm pretty sure it was stated she wasn't supposed to have that so it could be ignored for purposes of the debate
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She doesn't have that, only Ness does.
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God this profile is dog shit then.
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So Naito, about this...
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Well it doesn't really amp his speed, just his perception to see the world at a standstill. Attacks that block any form of escape do him in pretty well, just ask Kraven.
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Basically this. Oh yeah, the thing she's freezing here is also 111 meters tall.
Really? Because the Optional Equipment tab in his abilities section say they are optional equipment, and if that's true, then they would not be included here.
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Mmmmm, is that one of her to go moves? Does she also typically use this skill at such sizes?
I'm only seeing standard equipment, am I getting mobile diffed?
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If she's dealing with a single enemy, then yeah. And yes, she uses that move against really anyone up to the maximum size she's fought (That 111 meter tall Brontosaurus).
Look at the P&A under Optional Equipment and scroll down to the Resistances section.
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Really? Even against small enemies? I would assume that the attack sprite would only scale to the size of who she's fighting .
Oh it was a mobile diff, lol
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Given that the attack pretty much covers the entire Brontosaurus, it's pretty much that range.
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No, I mean if she fights a regular enemy, then the sprite of the ice attack would only be as large as said regular enemy, yeah?
Anyways what are the chances that Spidey could web rush directly to her frame one and then beat the stuffing out of the poor child before she can cast a spell
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To be fair, nothing actually states that the attack changes in size proportional to the enemy, so I assume that it's just constant in its range and AoE.
What's the activation speed of this? (IE. Hand Gesture, Word, Touch, Thought)
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I mean if that were the case, wouldn't there be something on how that would effect her party members or the surrounding area? I know it's a game from the 80s or 90s, but surely there'd be something right? That's kinda how most RPGs work.
Friggin instant, basically thought, what was Oscorp smoking. TLDR, time stops and progressively resumes over a period of like, 30 seconds if im remembering my playthrough correctly, allowing Pete to find the perfect way to zip over to someone or zip away depending on the situation.
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I'm not quite sure honestly, though it might just be graphical limitations or size inconsistencies, though I'm still confident that PSI Freeze can hit at a range of 111 meters. The reason why her party just wasn't affected was because it was linear and not aimed towards them.
If this is instant, then what's Spidey doing here in the tournament then? Does Owl even have a chance at beating Spidey before he just goes ZA WARUDO on him with that Spidey Sense?
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Kept an eye on this and I might just disqualify Spider-Man on this basis
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This thread how opened to my eyes to how BAD the EB profiles are on here, why does Paula have PK beam (move that appears in the first game and never again) and PK flash??? (move that only Ness has). Remind me to put in the effort to fix these profiles a bit.
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SnakesCity
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Looks good so far but replace pocket reality manip with dimensional storage tbh
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Oh im not denying that it can hit that size on a maximum, im just saying that wouldn't the most likely option be that the attack is tweaked for each specific enemy size.
Honestly im surprised the Mother series hasn't gotten a crisp 3-D remake.
I dunno, I wasn't the one who put him in here. I will say its not like ZA WARUDO and that he beats you up in stopped time, it instantly resumes once he takes action.
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I mean, Web-Rush does seem pretty good, and Spider-Sense can help too. His feats of overcoming such large odds is pretty daunting too. I might be leaning towards Spider-man.
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Wow! This profile is hot ******* garbage!
Anyways wtf is spidey doing here knowing precog would carry his sweet and spicy ass through the tournament?
Anyways wtf is spidey doing here knowing precog would carry his sweet and spicy ass through the tournament?
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Anyway, we can continue the voting as normal if we want to add this but are we in agreement to let Paula advance?
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That's what I'M saying!
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that despite spidey-sense and Web Rush being broken, Owl surprisingly does have the necessary tools to snatch a win even if its not as likely? Cause Tasm Game Spidey's Spidey Sense isn't precog, it just ramps up his reactions to an insane degree, meaning he can still be overwhelmed by a multitude of attacks, which is what Owl specializes at.
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Well, regardless, we have no votes, so I get to decide who moves forward
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I thought arguing on behalf of Pete meant I was voting for him
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You didn't specify that you voted.
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I mean, that's still blitzing which hardly anyone really has an answer to. Not to mention, Spidey straight up has the range edge which just makes it impossible for Owl to win. Essentially, he just does the first shot before anyone can really do much and just wins.
Hence, I still push for Spidey to be disqualified.
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But its not blitzing if he's moving at his regular speed once the web rush is over, is it? But you do have a point about range, that is a good deal no matter what.
This some carnival game ass logic
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Edit: I didn't like what I said, and I regret it. See AnAverageUsername's reply for what I said verbatim.
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Or, get this... it's not that serious
Carnival game logic? That was me making a crude joke, I was just watching Despicable Me and your message gave off the same vibe as that one dude at the carnival.
Like damn, soured my vibe. I did not, and I repeat, I did not expect you to take my comment so seriously that your first reaction would be to lash out, nor did I expect you to even consider the thought in the first place.
Take a chill pill.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't in the mood for jokes and took that as an accusation.
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Also, the joke doesn't really come across well if you're just gonna tell me I have carnival game-ass logic without elaboration, but that's fundamentally just a miscommunication on both our ends. Again, I'm sorry for lashing out.
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Paula's profile is doodoo cheeks however. Are you sure?
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I'm not really sure about letting Spider-Man through given the submitter isn't really showing up, their back-up just recently became invalid as well, so there isn't much I can do beyond petition @Psychomaster35 to change profiles
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