Wolverine and the X-Men (Verse Page Creation)

[DemonicDude]

Hiya.
Wolverine and the X-men 2009 American animated tv show.

This is a pretty consistent 9-B Verse, nothing fancy. I just wanted to have someone make sure everything is fine, so I can post it.
Here are the Sandboxes:

• Verse Page

Characters:

• Wolverine Logan (His profile already exist on vsbattle wiki form 2010s Avengers show which shares the same universe as 2009s X-Men show, he's extremely weak tier 9 in this 2009 show so therefore two keys need to be on this profile)
• Emma Frost
• Domino (me)

NOTE: This is what I'm proposing.

 

[Lilybitdun]

13.31mJ would be Wall+, Domino's durabilty feat too

 

[Excellence616]

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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A verse page already exist but only wolverine has a profile

 

[DemonicDude]

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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A verse page already exist but only wolverine has a profile

I want to keep the verse page sperate.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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A verse page already exist but only wolverine has a profile

@DemonicDude this verse seems to already exist.

 

[DemonicDude]

@DemonicDude this verse seems to already exist.

Okay. Then I'll move all the profiles to it.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Okay. Then I'll move all the profiles to it.

Actually, the scaling seems different. That needs to be looked at as well. The verse has Tier 8 calculations that likely apply to Wolverine and the others.

 

[Excellence616]

I want to keep the verse page sperate.

They are both same universe number tho. That's like removing 616 X men from 616 Verse page

 

[DemonicDude]

Actually, the scaling seems different. That needs to be looked at as well. The verse has Tier 8 calculations that likely apply to Wolverine and the others.

Except for Logan no one else from Wolverine and the X-men showed up in Earth mightiest heroes

 

[Random-Helper323]

Except for Logan no one else from Wolverine and the X-men showed up in Earth mightiest heroes

If they share a verse and Logan scales to those feats, any other X-Men characters who in turn scale to him, we can likely scale them to his level.

 

[DemonicDude]

They are both same universe number tho. That's like removing 616 X men from 616 Verse page

i'm not saying remove it like that
i'm saying when you click this

it should lead to this

 

[DemonicDude]

If they share a verse and Logan scales to those feats, any other X-Men characters who in turn scale to him, we can likely scale them to his level.

good thing I did not make any profile that scales to logan.

 

[DontTalkDT]

So, if this verse is the same as this verse, then this Logan is the same as this Logan, yes?
This profile says in the AP that she can keep up with people that fight Logan.
And this profile says she can survive explosions made to harm Logan.
Soooo... wouldn't they all scale based on what's on the profiles?

 

[DemonicDude]

So, if this verse is the same as this verse, then this Logan is the same as this Logan, yes?

yes, both shares the shares the universe as the show writer is marvel writer called Christopher Yost. who confirmed this several times and is officially accepted on the wiki here too.

This profile says in the AP that she can keep up with people that fight Logan.

was likely a placeholder. for the record, no she never once fight anyone that can keep up with Logan, In fact she is not even a fighter. just uses telepathic attacks that's it.

And this profile says she can survive explosions made to harm Logan.

not true. Sandbox was in early version.
It was just a table explosion. in durability calc.
She has not physically fought anyone at all either.

 

[DemonicDude]

Domino and Emma not only do they not appear at all in 2010 avengers show.
They are not even mentioned.
in no way shape or form do they scale to Logan/wolverine at all

 

[DontTalkDT]

I see. That sounds like Frost's scaling logic might need to be reevaluated then.
And Domino's AP obviously needs Storm's durability explained to work.

What the verse page is concerned: I personally wouldn't mind one way or another. I suppose if the scaling is effectively separate, and more characters are supposed to be added in the future, I can see the advantage of having it separate.

 

[DemonicDude]

I see. That sounds like Frost's scaling logic might need to be reevaluated then.

okay

And Domino's AP obviously needs Storm's durability explained to work.

Wouldn't her durability exams to her Ap calc. (oh wait dura doesn't scale to AP)
Anyways,
X-Men takes place in superhuman society and common thugs and even civilians with supernatural powers are capable of busting through doors and taking on military soldiers geared up with armed guns.



Storm has no durability feats and only shoots lightning attacks from the sky.

 

[DemonicDude]

Since Domino took down a military Helicopter casually
can't we just scale her to a real life m24 that's 9-B

Mil Mi-24

The Mil Mi-24 is a multipurpose helicopter gunship, which doubles as a low capacity troop transport capable of carrying 8 passengers. It is developed by the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant of the USSR, making it's first flight on September 19, 1969, entering service for the Red Army in 1972. Since...

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[Tllmbrg]

Wolverine Logan

Lifting Strength: Peak Human (Physically matched and tossed around Wendigos, a group of powerful yeti like creatures, who can match The Hulk in strength), higher with claws (tossed open a steel door)

I think the door thing should be calced, that way Logan's page has a more definitive rating rather than stating he should probably be superior to Spider-Man and slapping a likely.

Emma Frost

Acrobatics (She has shown to perform acrobatic moves in close quarters combat, dodging enemies attacks)

So off the context of this fight in the Feats section, the above does not give her acrobatics since it's her astral form doing it, can't assume she can physically do that.

Also these pages need a lot more scans, require citations to specific episodes, and so on.

 

[DemonicDude]

I think the door thing should be calced, that way Logan's page has a more definitive rating rather than stating he should probably be superior to Spider-Man and slapping a likely.


So off the context of this fight in the Feats section, the above does not give her acrobatics since it's her astral form doing it, can't assume she can physically do that.

Also these pages need a lot more scans, require citations to specific episodes, and so on.

yeah you are night. I'm not touching Logan's or emmas profile.
Anyways do you agree with this.

Since Domino took down a military Helicopter casually
can't we just scale her to a real life m24 that's 9-B

Mil Mi-24

The Mil Mi-24 is a multipurpose helicopter gunship, which doubles as a low capacity troop transport capable of carrying 8 passengers. It is developed by the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant of the USSR, making it's first flight on September 19, 1969, entering service for the Red Army in 1972. Since...

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[Tllmbrg]

Anyways do you agree with this.

Show the feat.

 

[Lonkitt]

Actually, the scaling seems different. That needs to be looked at as well. The verse has Tier 8 calculations that likely apply to Wolverine and the others.

The scaling's not really "different", they're just in the same verse. Of course, not every WaTXM character scales to Wolverine, but it would probably still make sense to prot the profiles over to the EMH page

 

[DemonicDude]

Show the feat.

here
Ap can be human level, Wall level with Mutant Weapons (took down military Helicopter)

 

[Lonkitt]

Also I'm surprised that there aren't any fullbody renders for Domino. Maybe there's an art sheet for the show out there to pull from

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

But this is in the same universe as EMH, no? They seem to share scaling as well

 

[Lonkitt]

But this is in the same universe as EMH, no? They seem to share scaling as well

Yes, they're the same verse. It's been confirmed many times

 

[DemonicDude]

Yes, they're the same verse. It's been confirmed many times

there is not, because it was never officially released to begin with.

 

[DemonicDude]

But this is in the same universe as EMH, no? They seem to share scaling as well

That would apply only to Logan and Cyclops.
I never created the profile of Cyclops and Emma and Domino are fodders in Tier 9.
Right now I just want to keep Domino profile, I'll deal with the rest of the characters later.
so, I'm proposing this.

here
Ap can be human level, Wall level with Mutant Weapons (took down military Helicopter)

 

[Lonkitt]

there is not, because it was never officially released to begin with.

What do you mean by that? Yost has been pretty vocal about how EMH, WaTXM, and Hulk vs. are all connected

 

[DemonicDude]

What do you mean by that? Yost has been pretty vocal about how EMH, WaTXM, and Hulk vs. are all connected

I'm talking about

Also I'm surprised that there aren't any fullbody renders for Domino.

I search everywhere on the internet and no there is no official full body render art.
she only appeared for what like six or seven minutes in the entire show.

 

[Lonkitt]

I'm talking about

I search everywhere on the internet and no there is no official full body render art.
she only appeared for what like six or seven minutes in the entire show.

Oh you meant the renders

I guess the next best bet would be making a render from a scene in the show with Domino, if a good shot like that exists

 

[DemonicDude]

Oh you meant the renders

I guess the next best bet would be making a render from a scene in the show with Domino, if a good shot like that exists

I have all of the images. The rest are just very low and poor quality from the distance. currently I'm using the best one.

 

[Arkenis]

Should at least get a speed feat.

 

[DemonicDude]

Should at least get a speed feat.

would be extremely difficult as characters are just aim dodging.

 

[DemonicDude]

I've updated her Sandbox:

DemonicDude/Sandbox4

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[Arkansalter2]

Looks fine at a glance.

 

[Lonkitt]

I've updated her Sandbox:

DemonicDude/Sandbox4

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The video hinting at her luck abilities got flagged btw

Also if I find any better render choices for her, I'll let you know

 

[Tllmbrg]

here
Ap can be human level, Wall level with Mutant Weapons (took down military Helicopter)

Is her Mutant power making guns super strong or something?
Probably better indexed as 9-B with weapons.

 

[DemonicDude]

Is her Mutant power making guns super strong or something?

no.
that's why she's just human level, 9-B with weapons.

 

[Random-Helper323]

The scaling's not really "different", they're just in the same verse. Of course, not every WaTXM character scales to Wolverine, but it would probably still make sense to prot the profiles over to the EMH page

I meant they aren't 9-B due to scaling to EMH, thus making their scaling require a "different" Tier from the 9-B Tier.