Wolverine and the X-Men (Verse Page Creation)

[DemonicDude]

I meant they aren't 9-B due to scaling to EMH, thus making their scaling require a "different" Tier from the 9-B Tier.

That only applies to Logan.
and even then you can go ahead and make the argument that 2009 X-Men characters are tier 9 B because there is not a single feat in that entire shirt that is above Tier 9.
and the 2010 EMH show That share the same universe. (Logan got stronger as the year went on and he joined Avenger's)

characters in fiction get's stronger by each series like Naruto and Ben 10. especially since EMH show is taking place many years later.

I propose keys.
Wolverine and the X-Men characters Tier 9-B (because there is not a single feet in that show that's above tier 9.

and Tier 6-C (any character that appeared in Earth mightiest heroes and contented with Tier 6 characters from that verse, which takes place few years later)

And, this would only be done for Logan/Wolverine. As he is the only character that appeared.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Dropping in to say if WATXM came first, they should have their own scaling since there's no one to downscale or cross scale to at all. If EMH did come first, then ofc they should cross-scale to Avengers.
Skimming through this, only Logan appears later on, so he can cross-scale to them, but since the rest of the x-men did not appear there, they should retain their own scaling unless they're like Logan.

 

[DemonicDude]

Logan should have Tier 9-B key for Wolverine and the X-Men
and Tier 6-C remains untouched from EMH.
2 keys. Rest of the characters from Wolverine and the X-Men would be Tier 9-B or simply Human level or if they hurt anyone that scales to Logan then 9-B.

 

[Antvasima]

I adjusted Domino's statistics that did not make any logical sense to "Unknown", as dodging lasers should be far beyond human level and striking strength determines the physical attack potency, and her durability also seems very mismatched with regular human attack potency.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Domino_(Wolverine_and_the_X-Men)?diff=9343684&oldid=9343210

I also think that Wolverine should preferably get two separate statistic keys for the two different cartoon shows, if they truly share the same continuity.

Wolverine (EMH)

Logan AKA Wolverine is one of the oldest Mutant alive, sporting a long and complicated past. Originally having fought in World War II, he would eventually surrender himself to Weapon X so that a woman he loved named Raven could escape. Although he already had a regenerative healing factor and...

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And I created a new "Wolverine and the X-Men" category for this verse.

 

[DemonicDude]

I adjusted Domino's statistics that did not make any logical sense to "Unknown", as dodging lasers should be far beyond human level and striking strength determines the physical attack potency, and her durability also seems very mismatched with regular human attack potency.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Domino_(Wolverine_and_the_X-Men)?diff=9343684&oldid=9343210

I also think that Wolverine should preferably get two separate statistic keys for the two different cartoon shows, if they truly share the same continuity.

Wolverine (EMH)

Logan AKA Wolverine is one of the oldest Mutant alive, sporting a long and complicated past. Originally having fought in World War II, he would eventually surrender himself to Weapon X so that a woman he loved named Raven could escape. Although he already had a regenerative healing factor and...

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And I created a new "Wolverine and the X-Men" category for this verse.

thank you sir.
Yup, I am also proposing same exact for
Wolverine to have two keys. A in the 2009 show he's very weak and tier 9 character as the entire verse has only tier 9 feats. which I have already listed.

and since he appeared again in 2010's Avengers Earth mightiest heroes and contended with Tier 6 characters of that show that should be in his second key.

Tier 9 (WAtheX-men) | Tier 6 (EMH)

 

[Antvasima]

I think so at least, yes.

 

[DemonicDude]

Here is my new updated Sandbox for Wolverine with 2 Keys.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:DemonicDude/SandboxWolverineUpdated

 

[Antvasima]

I think that seems uncontroversial to apply.

 

[The_Impress]

...why was the verse page split, the logic is nonsense here and the characters can very easily share a verse page?

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah great it's still nonsense. We don't split verse pages for aesthetic reasons unless it's a really egregious instance like DC verse page.

I don't mind the rest of the conclusions, they're whatever, but the second verse page is unnecessary bloat, ESPECIALLY if it was done without editing the EMH one.

Either the EMH one should've been drastically rewritten if we were going through with this.

 

[DemonicDude]

 

[Lonkitt]

Yeah great it's still nonsense. We don't split verse pages for aesthetic reasons unless it's a really egregious instance like DC verse page.

I don't mind the rest of the conclusions, they're whatever, but the second verse page is unnecessary bloat, ESPECIALLY if it was done without editing the EMH one.

Either the EMH one should've been drastically rewritten if we were going through with this.

I agree, the WaTXM page should be deleted. It should just share the EMH page

Also….Wolvie’s Tier 6 scaling comes from a movie canon to both shows that takes place before Wolverine and the X-Men, AS WELL AS FROM THE SHOW ITSELF. Did nobody read my Wolvie page???

You can’t just do a key split, that won’t cut it

Pay attention to the pages next time guys like come on

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I agree with Lonkitt and Impress here

 

[Antvasima]

I trust Impress' sense of judgement here.

 

[Lonkitt]

I agree, the WaTXM page should be deleted. It should just share the EMH page

Also….Wolvie’s Tier 6 scaling comes from a movie canon to both shows that takes place before Wolverine and the X-Men, AS WELL AS FROM THE SHOW ITSELF. Did nobody read my Wolvie page???

You can’t just do a key split, that won’t cut it

Pay attention to the pages next time guys like come on

I think we should also revert the changes made to Wolvie's page given what I brought up here. Again, his scaling to Hulk literally comes from Wolverine and the X-Men, as well as Hulk vs., which takes place before the show

 

[The_Impress]

Alright so I believe this thread might have also been applied too quick? Reading up I think only Ant accepted the revision, if anyone else did they can restate it because they were being rather vague about it.

Because of this I don't think this should've been applied yet, DD.

 

[Lonkitt]

Alright so I believe this thread might have also been applied too quick? Reading up I think only Ant accepted the revision, if anyone else did they can restate it because they were being rather vague about it.

Because of this I don't think this should've been applied yet, DD.

So...the keys shouldn't even be there?

I'll change it back

 

[Lonkitt]

So...the keys shouldn't even be there?

I'll change it back

Reverted it back

Again, those keys weren't even properly approved and they're outright incorrect based on what I said above

 

[Antvasima]

Should I delete the following page?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-men_(Verse)

And should I merge together the categories listed here, and if so, what name should we use?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Wolverine_%26_the_X-Men_-_Avengers:_EMH!

This page also seems to have a pretty bad title.

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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[The_Impress]

This page also seems to have a pretty bad title.

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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This is the best way we can title it, I feel, otherwise there might be confusion as to which show it represents

Should I delete the following page?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-men_(Verse)

And should I merge together the categories listed here, and if so, what name should we use?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Wolverine_%26_the_X-Men_-_Avengers:_EMH!

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Yes and Yes

 

[The_Impress]

I will shift all the characters created for WXM onto WXM-EMH page for now.

 

[The_Impress]

Done

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Wolverine_%26_the_X-Men_-_Avengers:_EMH!?diff=9408592&oldid=9342911

 

[Cropfist]

This page also seems to have a pretty bad title.

Some people call it the "Yost-verse", but that might be even less specific

 

[Antvasima]

This is the best way we can title it, I feel, otherwise there might be confusion as to which show it represents

Yes and Yes

I handled it.

 

[DemonicDude]

Wolverine and the X-Men (verse) page that I made.
Make sure to have the scaling chain/calc from there posted on here

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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just like I explained before WATXM takes place before Avengers Earth mightiest heroes and it's a 9-B verse. explanation regarding the power level of both of the verses needs to be on the page

I had written such a detailed explanation regarding WATXM power level here.

None of the calcs were posted either. Just sloppy. Then people wanna call my work bloated.
There should've been two tabblers here for Calcs and power level explanation

 

[The_Impress]

Just sloppy.

Then just add 'em lol. Idk why you're taking this as a personal attack or something

just like I explained before WATXM takes place before Avengers Earth mightiest heroes and it's a 9-B verse. explanation regarding the power level of both of the verses needs to be on the page

Although the 9-B thing isn't accepted yet, I think. Only Ant yes'd it formally, no?

 

[DemonicDude]

I'm scared of you people
legitimately terrified.

That's why I don't wanna touch stuff.
DT said yes too.

 

[Lonkitt]

Wolverine and the X-Men (verse) page that I made.
Make sure to have the scaling chain/calc from there posted on here

Wolverine & the X-Men - Avengers: EMH!

The reality in which Wolverine and the X-Men, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Hulk Vs. series and Thor: Tales of Asgard take place in, as well as some of their comic tie-ins. From Wolverine and the X-Men spawned Earth-80920 (Days of Future Past-like world) and the Planet Hulk animated...

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just like I explained before WATXM takes place before Avengers Earth mightiest heroes and it's a 9-B verse. explanation regarding the power level of both of the verses needs to be on the page

I had written such a detailed explanation regarding WATXM power level here.

None of the calcs were posted either. Just sloppy. Then people wanna call my work bloated.
There should've been two tabblers here for Calcs and power level explanation

Except that objectively wouldn't have worked. I already explained to you why, given how Hulk vs. takes place prior to both, and Logan boxes up with Hulk within WATXM itself, but you were blatantly ignoring this by making two keys that don't make sense, having feats from that movie AND WATXM in an EMH key

You're getting upset because you made a verse page....for a verse that already had a page. What you were proposing was in fact bloating things up and making things way more confusing and complicated

You rushed something that didn't even need to exist, and the existing pages almost got super contradictory and messed up as a result

Idk why you're getting so uptight about this when there's so many obvious problems with this OP in general

 

[DemonicDude]

Me being upset is a hyperbole I've been making verse pages since 2019s.
Also I feel safe and secure when @DontTalkDT
is there. There's a reason why I don't interact with people aside from him