Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[MSahla]

And for the fact that the Three Moon Sisters still have their full authorities until Nibelung came back in the war of funerary flame and imprisoned them in the Moon's Reflection, which Canon stated that it was a prison to sealed their Divinity/Authority rather than physical body.

AND FOR A GODDAMN THE FACT THAT NIBELUNG LITERALLY USED THE MOONS AUTHORITY AGAINST PHANES.

 

[Furina003]

Dottore literally said so lol. The power of the shades is predated by the power of the moons.

Where do you even get that The moons and shades co-existed at the same time?

''When the eternal throne of the heavens came, the world was made anew. Then the true lord, the Primordial One, came forth and did battle against the seven terrifying sovereigns, dragon-lords of the old world. *The Primordial One created shining shades of itself, and the number of these shades was four.''

The voyager literally saw 3 moon goddesses and 4 shades at the same time.

But when the voyager returned once more, the world she remembered had been utterly changed.
The bones of the earth had been bound beneath fourfold shackles, and the soft white radiance of the sky had been split into seven immutable hues.
Like drifting smoke had the lord of dragons vanished, and the Winged One's throne now ruled the radiance of the three moons.

 

[Giannysmag]

Can someone summarise what we think about the Moons scaling to the Shades for me (definately doesn't have to do with a specific profile I'm working on)

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

And for the fact that the Three Moon Sisters still have their full authorities until Nibelung came back in the war of funerary flame and imprisoned them in the Moon's Reflection, which Canon stated that it was a prison to sealed their Divinity/Authority rather than physical body.

AND FOR A GODDAMN THE FACT THAT NIBELUNG LITERALLY USED THE MOONS AUTHORITY AGAINST PHANES.

He didn't, The archon quest made it clear that their powers weren't used in the war. Nibelung only used the celestial bodies as weapon against phanes.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Can someone summarise what we think about the Moons scaling to the Shades for me (definately doesn't have to do with a specific profile I'm working on)

Some agree, some don't.


I def believe they scale to the shades.

 

[Giannysmag]

Some agree, some don't.


I def believe they scale to the shades.

Yea but what are the arguements?

 

[MSahla]

He didn't, The archon quest made it clear that their powers weren't used in the war. Nibelung only used the celestial bodies as weapon against phanes.

Pfftt, as if the Three Moons authority weren't coming from him and the moon sisters are literally the manifestations of his will and majesty, and was born to inhereted his Authority.

That statement about Nibelung used three moons against Phanes aren't literally what it means, like he throwing the moons or something, that's just mean he used the authority of the three moons, and he imprisoned the sisters so they cannot use their power and join in the war.

 

[MSahla]

Can someone summarise what we think about the Moons scaling to the Shades for me (definately doesn't have to do with a specific profile I'm working on)

Scaling the moons to the shades is stupid ngl, theres not a single evidence that can support that scaling.

 

[Giannysmag]

Scaling the moons to the shades is stupid ngl, theres not a single evidence that can support that scaling.

Yea but what are the arguements?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Yea but what are the arguements?

For: Their powers predates that of the shades, statements about being equal to them or greater from characters and song lyrics.
Against: shades are pre-existing fundemental concepts, moon goddesses losing to the H.P

 

[MSahla]

Those who believe the moons can be scale to the shades are only relying on the fact that they govern the same things: Life, Death, Time and Space, and claiming that the Shades' authorities are coming from the moons while that's literally wrong and they absolutely can't prove that.

 

[MSahla]

For: Their powers predates that of the shades,

Predates means nothing

statements about being equal to them or greater from characters and song lyrics.

You really believe that BS from Dottore who literally can't even transcend its Boundaries unlike the Shades? Theres so many things that the Authority of the Three Moons cannot do.

Which one of them is this.

Three Moons power can't even revive the dead like Sandrone who's just a robot and Sonnet literally don't believe those who've died can be revived. And you got Ronova who literally can revive the dead and even kill a non-living thing

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Predates means nothing

It means alot. it literally means their powers existed before that of the shades, which you claim are eternal universal concepts.

You really believe that BS from Dottore who literally can't even transcend its Boundaries unlike the Shades?

He literally transcended its boundary by changing the laws of teyvat on a whim. Plus according to Hoyo, the power of reason is vastly greater than that of time and space loll.

Theres so many things that the Authority of the Three Moons cannot do.

Many things the shades can't do as well, js. In fact istaroth doesn't even have authority/ access to the moon reflection whom is ''Time''

Which one of them is this.

Three Moons power can't even revive the dead like Sandrone who's just a robot

You just said it... She is robot and not human lol. She is Technically not even living as we speak.

and Sonnet literally don't believe those who've died can be revived. And you got Ronova who literally can revive the dead and even kill a non-living thing

Can you show me where Ronova ever revived someone?

 

[Giannysmag]

For: Their powers predates that of the shades, statements about being equal to them or greater from characters and song lyrics.

Can I get the scans for them being stated equal?

Against: shades are pre-existing fundemental concepts, moon goddesses losing to the H.P

If that's it then that's dumb since I don't agree with the Shades being fundamental concepts and the H.P. is far stronger than the Shades anyway

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

It means alot. it literally means their powers existed before that of the shades, which you claim are eternal universal concepts.

He literally transcended its boundary by changing the laws of teyvat on a whim. Plus according to Hoyo, the power of reason is vastly greater than that of time and space loll.

Many things the shades can't do as well, js. In fact istaroth doesn't even have authority/ access to the moon reflection whom is ''Time''

You just said it... She is robot and not human lol. She is Technically not even living as we speak.

Can you show me where Ronova ever revived someone?

Most machines in teyvat aren't even classified as alive lol. They are only alive in a non-biological sense.

 

[MSahla]

It means alot. it literally means their powers existed before that of the shades, which you claim are eternal universal concepts.

That's just means the shades weren't manifested yet lmao

He literally transcended its boundary by changing the laws of teyvat on a whim. Plus according to Hoyo, the power of reason is vastly greater than that of time and space loll.

All that just to be law manip and not even transcend its boundaries, and that's not the power of reason, Reason are only Descenders exclusive powers. You've never heard of anyone who possessed Reason outside of the Descenders.

Many things the shades can't do as well, js. In fact istaroth doesn't even have authority/ access to the moon reflection whom is ''Time''

Lmao, Duh?
Moon's reflection are essentially another pocket reality with it's own space-time and independent from the reality, that doesn't mean anything to Istaroth lmao.

You just said it... She is robot and not human lol. She is Technically not even living as we speak.

Pfftt, You have Ronova who can kill a pocket dimension which are not even a living thing. It's like she killed a rock.

Can you show me where Ronova ever revived someone?

So are we forgetting the fact that Xbalanque was revived in the present day by the permission of Ronova? And he also made the same contract to Ronova to revived him after he defeated Xiuhcoatl.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Can I get the scans for them being stated equal?

The Doctor: These four divisions anchor the world and shackle those who live in it. But they themselves transcend its boundaries, squandering the power bestowed by the heavens.

The Doctor: How narrow-minded we all were in the past. Why should the final answer of the world not be the power that predates those of life, death, time, and space? The power of the Trilune?

The Knave: ...The three moon goddesses were even more powerful than we imagined. No wonder Dottore believes himself to be equal to the gods... maybe even superior.

The Doctor: Time for one final experiment
The Doctor: Reason, life, death, time, and space...
The Doctor: They all believed I would fail...(Plumes of water burst out of the sea below the platform)(Varka and Flins dash across the rooftops of Nasha Town while Durin and Wanderer follow them in the air, everyone racing towards the platform in the sky)
Paimon: How could this happen!?(The Doctor rises even further into the air)
The Doctor: But Teyvat's primordial powerThe Doctor: Never did belong to the throne of heaven
The Doctor: And nowThe Doctor: They are mine

Theme song:

If that's it then that's dumb since I don't agree with the Shades being fundamental concepts and the H.P. is far stronger than the Shades anyway

idk why they keep including the shades whenever H.P is mentioned, when the scans specifically refer to phanes himself and not the shades

 

[Giannysmag]

The Doctor: These four divisions anchor the world and shackle those who live in it. But they themselves transcend its boundaries, squandering the power bestowed by the heavens.

The Doctor: How narrow-minded we all were in the past. Why should the final answer of the world not be the power that predates those of life, death, time, and space? The power of the Trilune?

The Knave: ...The three moon goddesses were even more powerful than we imagined. No wonder Dottore believes himself to be equal to the gods... maybe even superior.

The Doctor: Time for one final experiment
The Doctor: Reason, life, death, time, and space...
The Doctor: They all believed I would fail...(Plumes of water burst out of the sea below the platform)(Varka and Flins dash across the rooftops of Nasha Town while Durin and Wanderer follow them in the air, everyone racing towards the platform in the sky)
Paimon: How could this happen!?(The Doctor rises even further into the air)
The Doctor: But Teyvat's primordial powerThe Doctor: Never did belong to the throne of heaven
The Doctor: And nowThe Doctor: They are mine

Theme song:

Peak

Also can I just say, idk how yall were still having "is Teyvat a universe convos" when we deadass see that the fake sky only extends like 30 meters past the clouds

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

That's just means the shades weren't manifested yet lmao

And not to mention that time didn't even exist on teyvat

All that just to be law manip and not even transcend its boundaries, and that's not the power of reason, Reason are only Descenders exclusive powers. You've never heard of anyone who possessed Reason outside of the Descenders.

Bro literally had the power to make every human being equal with the shades like be fr now Also reason defined across hoyo games is something vastly greater than just law manip lol.

We know that a sinner also possesses the power of reason, so it's not limited to descenders only.

Lmao, Duh?
Moon's reflection are essentially another pocket reality with it's own space-time and independent from the reality, that doesn't mean anything to Istaroth lmao.

But you literally believe Istaroth is the concept of time itself, she should have control over that realm by then.

Pfftt, You have Ronova who can kill a pocket dimension which are not even a living thing. It's like she killed a rock.

Yeah because death manipulation in genshin =/= killing but just ending it's existence

So are we forgetting the fact that Xbalanque was revived in the present day by the permission of Ronova? And he also made the same contract to Ronova to revived him after he defeated Xiuhcoatl.

Oh yeah, I do remember. but was only revived as soul not his body. Automations don't have souls, so why should Columbina be able to revive Sandrone when she is a soulless machine?

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Peak

Not to mention, dottore had the power to make every human being on earth equal to the shades and have the power to give aether authority of descender back lol

Also can I just say, idk how yall were still having "is Teyvat a universe convos" when we deadass see that the fake sky only extends like 30 meters past the clouds

Nah, the False sky is larger than that. However universal sized isn't confirmed. An entire moon can fit inside the false sky.

 

[Furina003]

Peak

Also can I just say, idk how yall were still having "is Teyvat a universe convos" when we deadass see that the fake sky only extends like 30 meters past the clouds

It's simply a form of portal creation, opening a false sky and passing directly through the true universe.

Meanwhile, we are still in the fake sky, so where is the barrier?

 

[MSahla]

Bro literally had the power to make every human being equal with the shades like be fr now

???

Also reason defined across hoyo games is something vastly greater than just law manip lol

Hows that even relevant to Dottore?

But you literally believe Istaroth is the concept of time itself, she should have control over that realm by then.

Do you even know how Pocket Reality Manipulation works?

Yeah because death manipulation in genshin =/= killing but just ending it's existence

?????????

Oh yeah, I do remember. but was only revived as soul not his body.

??

Still, something that that Three Moons could never do.

Automations don't have souls, so why should Columbina be able to revive Sandrone when she is a soulless machine?

Idk? She has Life and Death manip.
Ronova can even kill those who are not even living thing, if the moons can't then simply they're not superior nor do they comparable.

Also can I just say, idk how yall were still having "is Teyvat a universe convos" when we deadass see that the fake sky only extends like 30 meters past the clouds

No, False Sky are not just for the planet, we go to the Frost Moon with Columbina yet still inside of the false sky.

And believe it or not the False Sky are Infinite with Infinite Stars within it, so that alone is High 3-A.

请注意，我们所说的是用你的梦去覆盖神的梦，用你的律法、意志与星空，去覆盖不可言喻的牺牲与苦痛。我们所说的不是依循流溢的逆转，实现通往众神的扬升。后者依然是凡俗的，是蛋壳中注定沦丧的梦。我要教你们的是超越的道理，是无限的空间，以及其中无限的星星。你们也要这样做，没有任何束缚——为了结合的机会而选择分裂，即是「密合」的必经之径 Please note that we are speaking of covering God's dream with your own, of covering unspeakable sacrifice and suffering with your own laws, will, and starry skies. We are not speaking of following the overflowing reversal to achieve ascension to the gods. The latter remains mundane, a dream destined for ruin within an eggshell. What I want to teach you is the transcendental truth, infinite space, and the infinite stars within it. You too must do this, without any constraints—choosing division for the opportunity of union is the necessary path to "union."

 

[Giannysmag]

Nah, the False sky is larger than that. However universal sized isn't confirmed. An entire moon can fit inside the false sky.

It's simply a form of portal creation, opening a false sky and passing directly through the true universe.

Meanwhile, we are still in the fake sky, so where is the barrier?

No, False Sky are not just for the planet, we go to the Frost Moon with Columbina yet still inside of the false sky.

Shhhhhhhhh let me push the agenda (I definitely didn't forget that the Frost Moon is now inside the false sky cause I was half asleep by the end of the aq shut up)

And believe it or not the False Sky are Infinite with Infinite Stars within it, so that alone is High 3-A.

What's this from?

 

[MSahla]

What's this from?

Have you play the latest quest yet? Because it's from Rene de Petrichor's book when we play as Pulonia, and you have that title above.

 

[Giannysmag]

Have you play the latest quest yet? Because it's from Rene de Petrichor's book when we play as Pulonia, and you have that title above.

You guys actually read the stuff in the Pulonia part?

 

[MSahla]

You guys read all the stuff in the Pulonia part?

I AM NOT VARKA (loreskipper)

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

You guys read all the stuff in the Pulonia part?

I did

 

[PedjaTarzan]

You guys actually read the stuff in the Pulonia part?

yeah and i forgot 90% of it but 10% convinced me dottore is making irontomb

 

[Giannysmag]

I AM NOT VARKA (loreskipper)

I did

On god I did the whole AQ in one sitting and I just zoned out whenever Dottore wasn't on screen

 

[MSahla]

On god I did the whole AQ in one sitting and I just zoned out whenever Dottore wasn't on screen

Gianny's honest reaction whenever dottore screen change to the others.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

On god I did the whole AQ in one sitting and I just zoned out whenever Dottore wasn't on screen

U don't know how early i woke up just to pull for bina, do the quest etc.

 

[Giannysmag]

Gianny's honest reaction whenever dottore screen change to the others.

Legit this

 

[MSahla]

Legit this

I KNOW THAT'S YOUR CHANNEL BOY, U JUST UPLOADED THAT SHIT

 

[Giannysmag]

I KNOW THAT'S YOUR CHANNEL BOY, U JUST UPLOADED THAT SHIT

I know you do, you gave me the idea for the vid

 

[Voidnether]

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

 

[PedjaTarzan]

"chudomirovich would be his father name" as a slav this stings bro

 

[Giannysmag]

"chudomirovich would be his father name" as a slav this stings bro

Why, what's it mean?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Why, what's it mean?

its a last name, not his fathers name. in slavic countries esp serbia russia some parts of bosnia and croatia last names end with "ich" and flins name is literally "Kyryll Chudomirovich Flins" so whatever this guy is saying hes smoking some shi bro
(they get to judge shit abt natlan and sumeru too lol)