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I'm confused. If Dottore can manipulate space and time with his amps, would that be hax exclusive or would the Traveller, Columbina and the others be able to scale to him?
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Genshin Impact Discussion Thread
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Ig, same with Arlecchino
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Almost everyone is capable of manipulating space and time, so they'd just manipulate Asmoday and Istaroth lmao unironically with how people link Istaroth as "time" itself to literally every single thing
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Actually, skirk call the false sky is universe
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That's not how it works buddy
They're just manipulating those things at some point, not the entire dimension of it.
Unlike Istaroth who have transcends Time and have control over the entire Temporal Dimension (because she's that Temporal Dimension itself). And Dottore admitted himself that Time isn't the easiest dimension to control.
"Avatar of Time" for a reason.
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No shit Dottore still manipulates said temporal dimension so Dottore > Istaroth if Istaroth is the temporal dimension here lolThat's not how it works buddy
They're just manipulating those things at some point, not the entire dimension of it.
Unlike Istaroth who have transcends Time and have control over the entire Temporal Dimension (because she's that Temporal Dimension itself). And Dottore admitted himself that Time isn't the easiest dimension to control.
"Avatar of Time" for a reason.
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Pffttt, the same Dottore who uses the power of the Moons who are nowhere near strong enough to challenge the heavenly principles and the four shades, and even the people prays to Istaroth so that Istaroth can protect the four moons.
By that Logic, Raiden Ei > Istaroth because she can manipulate Time, which is ridiculous. This is a flawed logic tbh.
And remember, Istaroth have transcends her boundaries. She already trancends Time itself.
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I mean why not, "by that logic" Logic Manipulation allows it so that Raiden Ei > Istaroth if it's necessary to happen. By then you're just answering your own question
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You're just straight up using logical fallacy buddy. Dottore's operations is within time, not dominance over time entirely, you cannot outrank the framework that makes your actions possible lol
If we go by your logic then all fictions is above the things they manipulate, which is stupid. Manipulation ≠ transcendence, Even if Istaroth is the temporal dimension, Dottore manipulating temporal phenomena does not place him above her, thats just means it places him within her domain.
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You can't affirm Istaroth is the temporal dimension but she transcends said temporal dimension at the same time btw
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Why not? lmao, identity and transcendence are not mutually exclusive, she's explicitly stated the one "stillness" within the endless flow of time, thats just means she does not bound by the linear of time and causality, because effect → cause to her (retrocausality). That only works if you assumes that the source of a system must be bound by the system it generates, which is kinda stupid and not how metaphysical foundations work
Being time ≠ being bound by time
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I think we should also discuss the Moon Reflection. Columbina claims that she cannot feel anything inside the place and is only able to perceive a void "that extends to infinity." The moon sisters call the place a prison of space-time, and the ballad of the crossroads refers to the place as being beyond the reach of time. This place was created by Nibelung, and for some reason Columbina, as the Moon Goddess, can open a Moon Gate to the Moon Reflection.
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Yeah.. Nibelung basically created dimension with space-time in it, and the size is Infinite.
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So, additional Low 2-C justification for Nibelung?
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I think, @Le'garde273 is also doing calculations on the size of the planet.
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Pretty much
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Then give the argument in the low 2c downgrade
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Don't have any moods rn
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Bina said inside when we talk to each other on the moon.
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And did dottore split the firmament or not cause if so then why it looks soo different? (In the bossfight and when talking with columbina)
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Nah, in fact he close it
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Guys, Teyvat planet is consistenly tier Low 5B (4 Zettatons) we either use a calc or we say its irl earth size
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name me one reason to calc planets size when you literally can assume its just normal earth size
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Because maybe there was a chance it would be like One piece earthname me one reason to calc planets size when you literally can assume its just normal earth size
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Im math nerd, let me be scientifically accurate (not on this one because i dont want my planet to be like 50 times smaller than earth)name me one reason to calc planets size when you literally can assume its just normal earth size
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This is what happens when it's not directly stated to be a star in-game and they refer it as planet multiple times
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Yeah Nibelung is def tier 2. Created a realm with a separated time and space that is infinite in size and can 0 diff a sinner like rerir
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and apparently Rerir at FP can destroy the inside of this realm lol
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That's High 3-A at best though..
You'd have to prove the snapshots are infinite for Low 2-C especially the temporal dimension one, Istaroth argument doesn't work either since Istaroth doesn't govern this
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I thought that to be Low 2-C, you only had to demonstrate interaction with the timeline and not just with space.
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high 3-A is fine, tho a separated space-time continuum should be low 2-C tho?
and apparently FP Rerir can destroy everything within the moon reflection, so mabye FP rerir 3-A and Columbina scaling above him lolll
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That realm is literally called "a space-time prison" btw, and literally stated to be infinite by Bina.
It would be h3a if it's just a space.
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