New Gods Physiology thread

[KirbyFan03]

I've noticed several of our New God pages share a lot of powers and abilities. So I've compiled a list of their powers and abilities to make a physiology page to make things neater (perhaps). I'm new to this so please forgive how messy everything might seem. Here's my sandbox/respect thread. The New Gods gain a lot of newer powers and abilities like info manip type 2, concept manip type 1 and a form of non duality in The New Gods Vol 5 as well as current comics giving Gods powers over order and chaos etc

Moderator/Staff agree: @Emirp sumitpo (agree but space-time erasure is unconventional and environmental destruction. Mind and Time hax is passive)
@DarkDragonMedeus

@Vietthai96 (General consensus is that PPE is type 1 and not possibly type 2 and BDE should be type 3)
Agree: Stefano444, GoldenVortex94, FroYoSans, Xearesay, Excellence616, Rutæhh, ObberGobb, Eseseso

Moderator/Staff disagree:

Disagree:

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Looks solid to me.

Think Existence Erasure should noted to be unconventional and is doesn't seem to be combat applicable. And it also falls somewhat under Environmental Destruction.

Mind and Time manip should be noted to be a passive hax.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

The formatting is left to be desired.
But looks overall good to me

But on Beyond Dimensional existence. Is The Bleed universe low 1-A or 1-A? Since if it's 1-A it should be Type 3

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Formatting wise I can adjust it once the page is placed.

 

[Eseseso]

Isn't the Sphere of the Gods a 1-A conceptual magic realm? Like how Godhead Darkseid is 1-A?

And the Paraconsistent stuff for the source seems more like NPI for Gods for interacting with the source.

Looks ok at a glance

 

[KirbyFan03]

The formatting is left to be desired.
But looks overall good to me

But on Beyond Dimensional existence. Is The Bleed universe low 1-A or 1-A? Since if it's 1-A it should be Type 3

Iirc The bleed is low 1-A at peak.

 

[KirbyFan03]

Isn't the Sphere of the Gods a 1-A conceptual magic realm? Like how Godhead Darkseid is 1-A?

And the Paraconsistent stuff for the source seems more like NPI for Gods for interacting with the source.

Looks ok at a glance

That's why I had NPI noted. The Paraconsistent stuff comes from things like The Waiternum

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Iirc The bleed is low 1-A at peak.

Aight, BDE Type 2 works then

 

[KirbyFan03]

I'd like to know the moderators thoughts lol

 

[KirbyFan03]

Also, would The New Gods also get upgraded? From Low 2C to 1C? Because the emanation worlds can exist in 6 dimensions

 

[AyOgUyS]

Also, would The New Gods also get upgraded? From Low 2C to 1C? Because the emanation worlds can exist in 6 dimensions

aren't they already 1-A?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

aren't they already 1-A?

pretty sure its probably for their emanations (avatar of some sort)

 

[AyOgUyS]

pretty sure its probably for their emanations (avatar of some sort)

then idk

 

[KirbyFan03]

aren't they already 1-A?

Their emanations as they are described as being higher dimensional beings in some universes

 

[KirbyFan03]

Looks solid to me.

Think Existence Erasure should noted to be unconventional and is doesn't seem to be combat applicable. And it also falls somewhat under Environmental Destruction.

Mind and Time manip should be noted to be a passive hax.

To respond to this. I do think it's combat applicable because the Erasure happens when a New God is either damaged really badly or defeated in battle. This applies to their emanations so should someone kill an avatar or use time based BFR to remove them from their place in the timeline some of them could trigger the erasure of the space-time they're in. The True Form could also just send in another emanation

 

[Apotheosis69]

To respond to this. I do think it's combat applicable because the Erasure happens when a New God is either damaged really badly or defeated in battle. This applies to their emanations so should someone kill an avatar or use time based BFR to remove them from their place in the timeline some of them could trigger the erasure of the space-time they're in. The True Form could also just send in another emanation

But thats an aftereffect to the New Gods being damaged. Not them doing it directly

 

[KirbyFan03]

But thats an aftereffect to the New Gods being damaged. Not them doing it directly

That is a fair assumption as it's more of a consequence of their destruction rather than an ability they can do. It's more or less something that can factor into a hypothetical fight without them really being killed off as the scans refer to emanations (concepts of Morrisons true forms never existed in those runs as it was in the 90s-2000s before FC in 2008)

Idk what it would be classified them as if they're damaged severely enough or removed from their point in time it would cause the timeline to be erased, it's something that can happen involving New God Emanations but it would require specific things to trigger

 

[KirbyFan03]

Who else would be interested in reviewing it/giving mod votes?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Who else would be interested in reviewing it/giving mod votes?

you can try reaching out to their wall to get more mod votes

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

@Qawsedf234 @DarkDragonMedeus @Planck69 @Theglassman12 Would you mind help taking a look at this?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Sure

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks solid to me.

Think Existence Erasure should noted to be unconventional and is doesn't seem to be combat applicable. And it also falls somewhat under Environmental Destruction.

Mind and Time manip should be noted to be a passive hax.

Sounds good to me.

 

[KirbyFan03]

Since a lot of people agree the space-time Erasure in unconventional and environmental destruction I'll concede on my earlier points. Other than that needing to be changed is there any other problems? (besides formatting I'm aware I'm ass at that)

 

[KirbyFan03]

Also, would The New Gods also get upgraded? From Low 2C to 1C? Because the emanation worlds can exist in 6 dimensions

What would you say to this?

 

[AyOgUyS]

What would you say to this?

if they're legitimately 6-d I don't see y they wouldn't be 1-C

 

[Apotheosis69]

Is those 6 Dimensions in a hierarchy of superiority?

 

[KirbyFan03]

Is those 6 Dimensions in a hierarchy of superiority?

When Metron took a human to the emanation world through 6 dimensions. The man said his brain felt like it was being torn apart. Metron states a 3 dimensional mind cannot begin to encompass the six dimensional space they're traveling to go to the Godworlds. The man has an existential crisis saying mankind is less than ants

 

[KirbyFan03]

When Metron took a human to the emanation world through 6 dimensions. The man said his brain felt like it was being torn apart. Metron states a 3 dimensional mind cannot begin to encompass the six dimensional space they're traveling to go to the Godworlds. The man has an existential crisis saying mankind is less than ants

I feel this follows more so the bosonic string theory stuff as higher dimensions are beyond human comprehension as shown in the scan as well as the 20+ dimensions so yeah, I do think it qualifies for the tier 1 stuff

 

[KirbyFan03]

Regardless it seems like almost everyone here agrees with most of the stuff regarding physiology with unconventional use of space-time erasure as environmental destruction. The possible 6D stuff is still iffy it seems sooooo do I edit it or do the people who agree edit it?

 

[KirbyFan03]

So anyone else? I'd like to know your thoughts for the 6D stuff

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The 6-D stuff is fine but whether it scales to anyone else is an entire other subject.

 

[KirbyFan03]

Lower dimensional beings enter through boom tube most of the time or there's tech that allows travel to 6Ds like in Anarchy.

 

[Hypertornado099]

• Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation & Creation. New Gods can create universes

This feels like flowery language tbh

• Mathematics Manipulation Metron states that a Rubicks Cube cannot be solved in less than 18 moves as that's the number of god, the minimal number of moves required to solve it is 18. He solves it in 17 moves which then triggers his mother box to blow up the holding facility The Number of God has 18 as the lower bound and 20 as the upper bound. Apokolips and New Genesis are from a place that is not a place and a time beyond time. Both worlds have been revolving longer than the scope of mere arithmetic to number

How are any of these math manipulation? The last sentence just says the worlds of the new gods have existed for so long you can't place a number on their age

 

[KirbyFan03]

This feels like flowery language tbh



How are any of these math manipulation? The last sentence just says the worlds of the new gods have existed for so long you can't place a number on their age

For the first one you see both a new god meditating creating a small green cloud around him and the female creates a universe with a humanoid being it in. It's hardly flowery language because we actually see what Mr. Miracle describes, it's also noted on our vsbw page as no name New Gods creating universes

 

[KirbyFan03]

For the first one you see both a new god meditating creating a small green cloud around him and the female creates a universe with a humanoid being it in. It's hardly flowery language because we actually see what Mr. Miracle describes, it's also noted on our vsbw page as no name New Gods creating universes

And to your Mathematics Manipulation point. I suppose the last point should go under resistance. Metron solving the Rubicks Cube in 17 moves is below the lower bound for solving the Cube. Which is below the least amount of moves to solve it. So the mathematics manipulation revolved around numbers and probability

 

[KirbyFan03]

This thread has been open for just over a week now and with two mod votes. Is there anything else I'm forgetting or do i need to wait for more people?

 

[Ozcantabak]

This thread has been open for just over a week now and with two mod votes. Is there anything else I'm forgetting or do i need to wait for more people?

You probably need 1 more staff vote, after that you can apply the accepted things.

 

[Hecky2222]

BDE should be changed to Type 3 since SoG is considered as 1A.
PP2 should be probably exclusive for Source I think PP1 for New Gods seems good

 

[KirbyFan03]

BDE should be changed to Type 3 since SoG is considered as 1A.
PP2 should be probably exclusive for Source I think PP1 for New Gods seems good

At first I was pondering it at first but I thought Type 2 was safer, Type 3 also could work too.

For the other point I did say possibly type 2 but type 1 is fine as i wasnt sure

 

[KirbyFan03]

@Qawsedf234 so sorry for the ping but what are your thoughts on it ?