Immeasurable Speed Honkai is the greatest Psyop of All Time

[MSahla]

Either reacting to Imaginary Space attacks

What properties does Imaginary Space have that make it like that again? I forgot, it's been a long time that i don't visit HoYo Cosmology page again.

What properties does Imaginary Space have that make it like that?or Irontomb nuking the Imaginary Tree (Yes including Genshin)

Idk man.. Some people said it only nuked HSR leaf world or smthn like that.

 

[Mbpoops]

Either reacting to Imaginary Space attacks or Irontomb nuking the Imaginary Tree (Yes including Genshin)

In any case, do they keep immesurable since it was nigh-aeon level characters who are mftl?

 

[Iiliminal]

they dont have the vril necessary for infinite+ speed keep rage

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Idk man.. Some people said it only nuked HSR leaf world or smthn like that.

HSR isn’t even in a leaf world bro

 

[Mbpoops]

Idk man.. Some people said it only nuked HSR leaf world or smthn like that.

furina.

 

[SuperNova55555]

?

Im like extremely confused what your point even is.

Also now im curious, but its prolly a dumb question, kiana, kevin, otto, and aeons will keep their immesurable speed right? Or are they going down to mftl+-inf?

Possibly infinite. I’m a bit sus on it. But Aeons having it isn’t the most egregious.

 

[MSahla]

Oh yeah.. I forgot that hsr treated the universe as the whole imaginary tree.

 

[Mbpoops]

Possibly infinite. I’m a bit sus on it. But Aeons having it isn’t the most egregious.

aeons make sense to me tbh i only added kiana otto and kevin since they are the only other imaginary entities in the verse (to my knowledge)

 

[SuperNova55555]

In any case, do they keep immesurable since it was nigh-aeon level characters who are mftl?

What. Immeasurable is the very thing I’m trying to remove here. I said it might go down to infinite for possibly evading an instantaneous attack. But for that to happen Himeko would have to dodge the lances being spawned literally inside her which is isn’t what happens. The attacks always appear a bit further away.

And the lance isn’t what could be infinite here; it’d be dodging something instantly spawning on you.

 

[MSahla]

Well, since most of us agree with this Immeasurable Speed nuke, i think y'all supporters might have to prove the evidences of that Infinite Speed that y'all talk about and give it to the mods.

Maybe the speed rating like "MFTL+, Possibly Infinite" would be good at the very least.

 

[Mbpoops]

aeons make sense to me tbh i only added kiana otto and kevin since they are the only other imaginary entities in the verse (to my knowledge)

Sa and vita are arguable but at best i can see mftl+ (they dont even have a page so it dont really matter outside of goat hua scaling)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Im like extremely confused what your point even is.

Ok so if irontomb is far superior to all other scepters including the emperor’s thought and emperor’s sword and combine it with how Irontomb’s output isn’t emanator level until Nanook made it one, including UES. Wouldn’t Incomplete Irontomb scale to MFTL+ anyways with physicals?

 

[Mbpoops]

What. Immeasurable is the very thing I’m trying to remove here. I said it might go down to infinite for possibly evading an instantaneous attack. But for that to happen Himeko would have to dodge the lances being spawned literally inside her which is isn’t what happens. The attacks always appear a bit further away.

And the lance isn’t what could be infinite here; it’d be dodging something instantly spawning on you.

I meant the imaginary entities like aeons, kiana, kevin, otto. You answered my question though so we gucci

Edit: i can see where the confusing in my reply would come from my bad lol

 

[SuperNova55555]

Ok so if irontomb is far superior to all other scepters including the emperor’s thought and emperor’s sword and combine it with how Irontomb’s output isn’t emanator level until Nanook made it one, including UES. Wouldn’t Incomplete Irontomb scale to MFTL+ anyways with physicals?

Would a normal fireball and a normal beam of light move at the same speed because of UES?

 

[AyOgUyS]

agreed tho I just found this statement (if not immeasurable speed maybe at least time MANIP or smth)

 

[AyOgUyS]

Would a normal fireball and a normal beam of light move at the same speed because of UES?

I don't think so unless its a really weird ues

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Would a normal fireball and a normal beam of light move at the same speed because of UES?

Ain’t that how UES rules work. If I remember correctly, this originates starting from NPES.

 

[Mbpoops]

agreed tho I just found this statement (if not immeasurable speed maybe at least time MANIP or smth)

It said request page failed

 

[AyOgUyS]

Ain’t that how UES rules work. If I remember correctly, this originates starting from NPES.

not every ki blast in dragon ball is infinite speed is it?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I agree with the Immeasurable speed removel, I don't like this speed rating that much anyway, so, in exchange, Cyrene will gain Time Travel?

 

[AyOgUyS]

It said request page failed

oh dam gimme a min yall I swear it actually does exists and if its not immeasurable speed it could still be time HAX just gimme a min

 

[SuperNova55555]

Ain’t that how UES rules work. If I remember correctly, this originates starting from NPES.

Ye js ask Viet to settle ts.

Issue is that Irontomb’s scepter speed is inherent to it before UES. So when you isolate UES, it doesn’t necessarily keep that speed or sum. Idk how to explain it well

Cyrene will gain Time Travel?

What it should’ve always been. Tho it’s more accurately a form of Causality Manip.

 

[AyOgUyS]

ok here's the immeasurable speed statement y'all (if accepted scales to Jingliu and anyone faster)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think the Immeasurable downgrade sounds fine but you really should've placed the proposed rating that you're gonna downgrade them from.

From what I recall there's Fu Hua's FTL dodging feat for lower tiers, Phainon's MFTL+ feat for Aeon level tiers, and while uncalced, I do think Elysia moving the stars in the realm is definitely MFTL+

 

[AyOgUyS]

I think the Immeasurable downgrade sounds fine but you really should've placed the proposed rating that you're gonna downgrade them from.

From what I recall there's Fu Hua's FTL dodging feat for lower tiers, Phainon's MFTL+ feat for Aeon level tiers, and while uncalced, I do think Elysia moving the stars in the realm is definitely MFTL+

We can just not apply this thread, make another, then apply both

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

ok here's the immeasurable speed statement y'all (if accepted scales to Jingliu and anyone faster)

That's not really Immeasurable and moreso hax. And requires a lot more context as to what it means.

Is she just cutting through space-time or is she sending attacks through time? Etcetc.

 

[SuperNova55555]

ok here's the immeasurable speed statement y'all (if accepted scales to Jingliu and anyone faster)

Doesn’t work.

I do think Elysia moving the stars in the realm is definitely MFTL+

Not aware of this feat personally

 

[SuperNova55555]

ok here's the immeasurable speed statement y'all (if accepted scales to Jingliu and anyone faster)

Ok fixed but no. “Cutting through time” is an extremely general statement and doesn’t necessitate Immeasurable at all

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Doesn’t work.


Not aware of this feat personally

Happens towards the end of Raiden Mei vs Elysia final boss scene in HI3 if I recall. I'll find the feat.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Doesn’t work.

aw man even a "fast enough to cut through time" isn't enough? honkai fans really can't have anything can we lol

maybe at least time manipulation or some sort of interdimensional range?

 

[AyOgUyS]

Ok fixed but no. “Cutting through time” is an extremely general statement and doesn’t necessitate Immeasurable at all

but the "fast enough" part

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

ok here's the immeasurable speed statement y'all (if accepted scales to Jingliu and anyone faster)

This is just Space-Time hax

 

[SuperNova55555]

aw man even a "fast enough to cut through time" isn't enough? honkai fans really can't have anything can we lol

maybe at least time manipulation or some sort of interdimensional range?

but the "fast enough" part

Let it go bro

 

[Mbpoops]

aw man even a "fast enough to cut through time" isn't enough? honkai fans really can't have anything can we lol

maybe at least time manipulation or some sort of interdimensional range?

I can agree with interdimensional given argenti somehow spawning into amphorous is a thing

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

not every ki blast in dragon ball is infinite speed is it?

What. Who in dragon ball super has infinite speed Ki blast.

 

[AyOgUyS]

I can agree with interdimensional given argenti somehow spawning into amphorous is a thing

noice

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Happens at 9:19 in the second phase of her boss fight, Elysia was able to begin rotating stars in a circular motion, and only stop rotating once the fight ends.

Probably like billions x FTL.

 

[AyOgUyS]

What. Who in dragon ball super has infinite speed Ki blast.

my point stands regardless of their speed ratings, I could say MFTL and it means the same thing :/
BoG Goku and anyone who scales

 

[Mbpoops]

I can agree with interdimensional given argenti somehow spawning into amphorous is a thing

Off topic but shouldnt argenti have a 4-A rating since hes the creator of the solar feat? Not arguing for a downgrade but it should at least be om his page

 

[AyOgUyS]

This is just Space-Time hax

aw man, I thought the "fast enough" part would work