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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

The first step would be to stablish three keys for maki
Pre-awakening Post-awakening and Post-sumo training
The sumo training key would be the one that scales to the high tiers in speed.

The explanation to Maki's speed changing after her sumo training is that she didnt just gain ability to predict movement, but rather gain the ability to perceive and take advantage of differences in temperature and air density. Maki can use this to propel herself and dodge mid-air or practically fly. So she could perfectly use this to propel herself and increase her speed too, she actually uses this to fly side by side with Naoya for a moment even.
She also got physically stronger because she stopped subconsciously holding back
 
Dawg you literally trying to scale high tiers to hypersonic+ because of a grade 3 curse dodging piercing blood
Wdym I literally think high tiers should be MHS 🥹 I don't believe in the speed cap

I'm just saying regardless of wherever maki scales, naoya should be above in speed
 
I believe there was NPES crt but I barely remember (But, ofc, i think it was unanimously agreed that Ryu's like the only one who the sort of UES type deal)
I did make that NPES thread

It got accepted and general idea is that everyone barring Ryu is in a NPES system, Ryu just decides that hes not like the rest and went full into UES which is how it is

We just got really good scaling through that one UES guy because of how the Culling Games worked and how Kenjaku got players
 
Wdym I literally think high tiers should be MHS 🥹 I don't believe in the speed cap

I'm just saying regardless of wherever maki scales, naoya should be above in speed
There's actually no MHS combat speed feat for the high tiers though, even if we take the cap away
 
Wdym I literally think high tiers should be MHS 🥹 I don't believe in the speed cap

I'm just saying regardless of wherever maki scales, naoya should be above in speed
Dawg thats impossible. The only way we getting high tiers above mach 3 is to not cap them by naoya and scale them higher
 
There's actually no MHS combat speed feat for the high tiers though, even if we take the cap away
Hakari's scales to combat speed regardless of whatever speed capper N34 are making up, kashimo and hakari scale to eachother's reactions lol, and there's like another or two other feats (Yuta's blitz on the curse in ep1 of s3 is like mhs - mhs+)

Dawg thats impossible. The only way we getting high tiers above mach 3 is to not cap them by naoya and scale them higher
Or just remove that nonsense cap of mach 3 naoya but considering how the people in the wiki treat statements of speed like gospel then you prob right, good in-verse will be sacrified for better scaling
 
Hakari's scales to combat speed regardless of whatever speed capper N34 are making up, kashimo and hakari scale to eachother's reactions lol, and there's like another or two other feats (Yuta's blitz on the curse in ep1 is like mhs - mhs+)
It is? Make a calc
 
It is? Make a calc
I already did but I'm not sure about the distance, the result was Mach 1063 rn but I'm not sure about it

Just as a test I tried it with a lower distance but even if u just downplay and say yuta was like 10 meters away (which he obviously was way further away) from the curse it gets to mach 72 (High Hypersonic+) because of how yuji being thrown and the curse's speed was in slow motion from moving at 77.54470588m/s to 0.7476590636m/s and Yuta blitzed the curse in one frame even during the slowmo.
 
Wdym I literally think high tiers should be MHS 🥹 I don't believe in the speed cap

I'm just saying regardless of wherever maki scales, naoya should be above in speed
Bro didn’t even try to argue against thinking a grade 3 curse was hypersonic, bro just changed the subject.

Also on god we ain’t scaling dudes to mhs off of Kashimo/Hakari. I’ll take mhs from any other source or take values higher just not Kashimo and hakari’s feat
 
Bro didn’t even try to argue against thinking a grade 3 curse was hypersonic, bro just changed the subject.
It wasn't even a grade 3, it was just a random kenjaku curse, it was never graded 🤞 and the curse WAS indeed hypersonic in the anime lol the calc is correct, it just isn't usable rn because of Naoya's mach 3 cap (omg someone kill it man)

Also on god we ain’t scaling dudes to mhs off of Kashimo/Hakari. I’ll take mhs from any other source or take values higher just not Kashimo and hakari’s feat
Why? I understand as of rn if we're waiting for the anime (that's fine), but if the anime shows him dodging it I think atp it's inevitable and we should just use it.
 
The special grades shouldnt scale below mach 1 naoya and naobito.
Fully awakened Maki was able to fly side by side with a supersonic Naoya
False, Naoya has to stack his speed for a while to reach top speed.
Look how many laps he had to make,

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Maki jumps after Naoya after he sits still (he lost his speed)

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(omg someone kill it man)
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Wait half the season and it’ll get animated

Why? I understand as of rn if we're waiting for the anime (that's fine), but if the anime shows him dodging it I think atp it's inevitable and we should just use it.
Why? Because just like my reasoning for not personally scaling Gojo and Sukuna to High 7-C, just personal beef. I think it goes against how the lightning is supposed to work if it somehow moved to his arm when aiming for his head and also the whole discourse and arguing about the feat just made the whole thing dumb to me so I just hate it.

If the anime has him straight up dodging fair to use it.
 
It is? Make a calc
Actually here. I'm still not at all sure about the distance between yuta and yuji but u can see if u think theres any way to calc it better.

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Wait half the season and it’ll get animated
MAPPA PLEASE IGNORE THE MACH 3 STATEMENT, MAKE THE NARRATOR SHUT THE HELL UP🙏🙏🙏🙏 (They won't and people will continue pushing it)

Why? Because just like my reasoning for not personally scaling Gojo and Sukuna to High 7-C, just personal beef. I think it goes against how the lightning is supposed to work if it somehow moved to his arm when aiming for his head and also the whole discourse and arguing about the feat just made the whole thing dumb to me so I just hate it.
Fair enough, I always just assumed it was targetted to the head but since hakari dodged it, it tried following his head but his arm was in the way since it would have to do a 90º degree after he dodged it to follow his head so it exploded on his arm instead. I just hate the idea that it aims for his arm cause it would mean Kashimo is not only actually dumb and should be downgraded to below average intelligence, it'd also mean kashimo for god knows why aimed his lightning to the arm that was BEHIND (since Hakari was positioned sideways), so he for some reason would have aimed his lightning to do a 180º degree just to hit that arm man

If the anime has him straight up dodging fair to use it.
Fair aswell, I agree with waiting for the anime before pushing MHS Hakari back, just to be sure
 
The first step would be to stablish three keys for maki
Pre-awakening Post-awakening and Post-sumo training
The sumo training key would be the one that scales to the high tiers in speed.

The explanation to Maki's speed changing after her sumo training is that she didnt just gain ability to predict movement, but rather gain the ability to perceive and take advantage of differences in temperature and air density. Maki can use this to propel herself and dodge mid-air or practically fly. So she could perfectly use this to propel herself and increase her speed too, she actually uses this to fly side by side with Naoya for a moment even.
this doesn't even work cause she has statements of relativity to toji pre and post sumo
 
I believe that Awakened Maki's speed didn't change at all pre or post sumo but I do wanna point out that Maki herself notes Toji would have been able to deflect Naoya's acceleration, so Awakened Maki post sumo should indeed be able to deflect full speed naoya (even if I believe naoya is still faster)
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False, Naoya has to stack his speed for a while to reach top speed.
Look how many laps he had to make,

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Maki jumps after Naoya after he sits still (he lost his speed)

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Can you read? I didnt say shes mach 3 because of it, i said she's supersonic. Supersonic speed is something Naoya can reach quickly without needing to build up speed.
 
Can you read? I didnt say shes mach 3 because of it, i said she's supersonic. Supersonic speed is something Naoya can reach quickly without needing to build up speed.
Apologies, thought I seen a + 🫩
Naoya cannot reach supersonic speeds quickly. Where’s the proof of this?
 
I hate the statements cap so much but let's not lie, maki herself points out even cursed womb naoya was already supersonic.
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He was supersonic when he had distance to charge his speed up, which is how he statued Kamo. After that, they tagged him repeatedly, even when he was transformed. He needed to build up speed again to reach that point.
Man i already gave an explanation in the post you quoted
I read it, it was insufficient. Cause it was fully headcanon meant to describe something that didn't need it.
You said maki became supersonic because she gained the ability to jump off the air and she could "fly next to naoya" with it. That's just headcanon. Naoya traveled devious distances while all she had to do was jump a meter to the side.
On top of that, what you're saying now means that without her jumping on the air, she's the exact same speed.
 
Actually here. I'm still not at all sure about the distance between yuta and yuji but u can see if u think theres any way to calc it better.
Ig you could try to calc the curse's arm's width and then use it to calc the distance Yuta would've needed to travel off screen to get to it
 
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