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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

LIFE_OF_KING said:
Idk why people are so afraid since White got killed in two pages but he was making JJK be extra haxed. Like, CE would have Nonexistence, Conceptual manipulation, nonduality and such. Infinity would be immune to a ton of shit.

And the most notable: It was argued how souls do not exist in JJK, so the characters would get Immunity to soulhax
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I did in fact love his idea about dismantle being slashes from the void of existence

You should already know my stance on this and it happens with both dismantle and cleave as Gege has been highlighting with Sukuna’s slashes. Sukuna’s slashes aren’t just “invisible” he’s attacking from the Void of existence.

We also saw this when Daido attacked cursed Naoya with SSK, despite Daido having no cursed energy to speak of. Daido explicitly mentions his perception of “seeing things not there by seeing what’s there” is an explicit reference to the main theme of the heart sutra which discusses Sunyata and also correlates with Daido being able to wield and sense SSK which has the explicit requirement of needing to be able to “sense the souls of inanimate objects”.

But you know “lol buddhism” and all that.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Kenny never stated anything about he is worried about fighting them head. Yuta, Maki and Hakari can damage him. That doesn't mean he should be on same level of speed
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If he's hundreds of times faster he would literally never ever worry about them damaging him, and Yuta would've never landed a hit on him even with Todo's help, as yuta would LITERALLY be like a snail to Kenjaku
EldemadeDityjon said:
Yuki doesn't have any speed scaling to Yuta.
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Her scaling comes from 2 statements of being comparable to yuta lolol
EldemadeDityjon said:
She scaled to Kenny directly. So it doesn't matter.
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yes it does, you can keep coping tho
 
Mommyleona said:
If he's hundreds of times faster he would literally never ever worry about them damaging him, and Yuta would've never landed a hit on him even with Todo's help, as yuta would LITERALLY be like a snail to Kenjaku

Her scaling comes from 2 statements of being comparable to yuta lolol

yes it does, you can keep coping tho
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Shinjuku Yuta ≠ CG Yuta either way Kenny and Yuki scaling will be handled in a different thread.
Also you don't need to be on same level speed to kill the opponents. This is fiction there are several ways to do it. I also don't remember saying Kenny is hundreds of times faster than heavy hitters (Shinjuku squad)
 
Can we get speed from Yuki being able dodge Kenjaku's gravity? Gravitons should be LS at the very least and since Kenjaku's bare minimum supersonic, his perception speed (activation) is like 0.00265s. That should give us a huge speed upgrade.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Shinjuku Yuta ≠ CG Yuta either way Kenny and Yuki scaling will be handled in a different thread.
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Yall say this shit like Yuta took a perc over the timeskip
Arkenis said:
Can we get speed from Yuki being able dodge Kenjaku's gravity? Gravitons should be LS at the very least and since Kenjaku's bare minimum supersonic, his perception speed (activation) is like 0.00265s. That should give us a huge speed upgrade.
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yo give up bro
 
Arkenis said:
Can we get speed from Yuki being able dodge Kenjaku's gravity? Gravitons should be LS at the very least and since Kenjaku's bare minimum supersonic, his perception speed (activation) is like 0.00265s. That should give us a huge speed upgrade.
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Great argument, sadly, mach 3
 
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Jujutsu Kaisen Hax/Ability Upgrade Thread Pt. 3.5

Hello all, this thread will continue the last upgrade thread I made. Void Manipulation and Concept Type 3 for jujutsu was contested in the last thread and in the interest of passing the other abilities, it was decided to move this discussion to another thread. I would ask that a staff tag the...
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Feel so bad. This thread is crazy. Every counter argument to the CRT got 30+ likes 😭
 
Mommyleona said:
If he's hundreds of times faster he would literally never ever worry about them damaging him, and Yuta would've never landed a hit on him even with Todo's help, as yuta would LITERALLY be like a snail to Kenjaku

Her scaling comes from 2 statements of being comparable to yuta lolol

yes it does, you can keep coping tho
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Tbf Yuki's statements have zero to do with speed, they are just saying she's on the same rank, and we know special grade sorcerers don't scale to one another like chain scaling. She can just be above Yuta.
 
Arkenis said:
Can we get speed from Yuki being able dodge Kenjaku's gravity? Gravitons should be LS at the very least and since Kenjaku's bare minimum supersonic, his perception speed (activation) is like 0.00265s. That should give us a huge speed upgrade.
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I think it would be more like she can see the spark for CT activation and dodge it?
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Also you don't need to be on same level speed to kill the opponents.
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yeah you do, atleast a little relativity

hecking Choso can vaguely keep up with both Yuki and Kenny when they're beating him up together

nothing in the narrative ever implies that Yuki is somehow above Yuta or alike

She also falls under the Naoya cap
EldemadeDityjon said:
This is fiction there are several ways to do it. I also don't remember saying Kenny is hundreds of times faster than heavy hitters (Shinjuku squad)
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if everyone is capped at barely superhuman while kenny is like mach 4.6, thats roughly the difference

The mental gymnastics needed to somehow exclude someone from the cap are absurd
 
Mommyleona said:
yeah you do, atleast a little relativity

hecking Choso can vaguely keep up with both Yuki and Kenny when they're beating him up together

nothing in the narrative ever implies that Yuki is somehow above Yuta or alike

She also falls under the Naoya cap
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Choso's amping himself to be fair, Kenny and Yuki are just better.
 
KingTempest said:
Yall say this shit like Yuta took a perc over the timeskip
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Well
post Shibuya Yuji ~ CG Yuta ?
Max speed Naoya ~< Awakened Maki ~ Yuji (after Sukuna left him)
Shinjuku Yuta was comparable to stronger version of Yuji than that. Well I can't really explain it fully but it doesn't make sense for CG Yuta and Shinjuku Yuta speed being the same.
 
Arkenis said:
Sparks? So light? So bare minimum relativistic reaction speed?
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When I catch you
Mommyleona said:
yeah you do, atleast a little relativity

hecking Choso can vaguely keep up with both Yuki and Kenny when they're beating him up together

nothing in the narrative ever implies that Yuki is somehow above Yuta or alike
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First of all Kenny never struggled or implied that he is on same level as speed as choso. Unless you think Gojo fighting Hanami means his speed is same level of Yuji and Todo.
Choso only supported and had his moment when Kenny was locked down by Garuda. Next moment it got Weakened he slipped without giving Choso any moment to shine. Also there is the fact Choso got cooked by gravity manipulation of Kenny while Yuki can dodge that easily. There is no way you are comparing them to be on same level.
Mommyleona said:
She also falls under the Naoya cap

if everyone is capped at barely superhuman while kenny is like mach 4.6, thats roughly the difference

The mental gymnastics needed to somehow exclude someone from the cap are absurd
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Who said Shinjuku Yuta will be Superhuman speed well his speed will be comparable if not faster than awakened Maki there. Which needs to be discussed.
 
Well, at least cursed naoya is still faster than MHA
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EldemadeDityjon said:
First of all Kenny never struggled or implied that he is on same level as speed as choso. Unless you think Gojo fighting Hanami means his speed is same level of Yuji and Todo.
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Kenny would NOT need to resort to using gravity system, if he could actually just stupid blitz Choso 10 times over while eyes closed and holding back

Gojo falls under this too, he couldn't even simply speedblitz and one shot Hanami and Jogo, he should be able to do it with his pinky
EldemadeDityjon said:
Choso only supported and had his moment when Kenny was locked down by Garuda. Next moment it got Weakened he slipped without giving Choso any moment to shine. Also there is the fact Choso got cooked by gravity manipulation of Kenny while Yuki can dodge that easily. There is no way you are comparing to be on same level
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Please read, i didnt say same lvl, i said he can vaguely follow their movements, meaning they're not dozens of times faster than him
EldemadeDityjon said:
Who said Shinjuku Yuta will be Superhuman speed well his speed will be comparable if not faster than awakened Maki there. Which needs to be discussed.
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He also will be superhuman if the cap goes
 
Mommyleona said:
Kenny would NOT need to resort to using gravity system, if he could actually just stupid blitz Choso 10 times over while eyes closed and holding back

Gojo falls under this too, he couldn't even simply speedblitz and one shot Hanami and Jogo, he should be able to do it with his pinky

Please read, i didnt say same lvl, i said he can vaguely follow their movements, meaning they're not dozens of times faster than him
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Jogo got statement for not getting hit by Todo and Yuji and he is too fast. Saying Hanami and Jogo being on same level doesn't even make sense narrative. Not only that he literally bliztes Yuji level opponents (Nanami). The difference between CG Yuta and Kenny is
Yuta called Yuji to be fast while Kenny never stated anything about Choso to be fast or something. He casually brushed of anything and everything. Only thing he complemented about speed is PB.
Mommyleona said:
He also will be superhuman if the cap goes
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No? Shinjuku characters doesn't have that cap.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Jogo got statement for not getting hit by Todo and Yuji and he is too fast. Saying Hanami and Jogo being on same level doesn't even make sense narrative. Not only that he literally bliztes Yuji level opponents (Nanami). The difference between CG Yuta and Kenny is
Yuta called Yuji to be fast while Kenny never stated anything about Choso to be fast or something. He casually brushed of anything and everything. Only thing he complemented about speed is PB.

No? Shinjuku characters doesn't have that cap.
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whatever makes you sleep at night
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Isn't your thread is about Naoya speed cap? Or AM I misunderstanding it?
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No
Since Projection Sorcery can statue and blitz characarers while only moving some meters within 1/24, it would mean that most of the verse would need to be below any higher levels of superhuman speed to baseline subsonic

Example:

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Dagon cannot move a single pixel while Naobito is doing those 24 moves, which would basically mean he is FAR slower. Math wise probably hundred of times, which would basically make him around below average human
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