Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Rodriiogo]

However I will point out that if you (to biggestopp) wanna say that special grade sorcerers output doesn't exist since it isn't based on AP. Sure, this would mean that the "special grade output" that Kenjaku is talking about would be about special grade cursed spirits, since he still mentions "special grade output" regardless. this would just support the Mahito scaling (I did purpose this before but special grade output meaning to sorcerers was more accepted, and I think it being special grade sorcerers output is the better option for consistency purposes)

 

[Rodriiogo]

I do think Yuki beats Mechamaru even with upscale, there’s more to fights than just raw power.
Kenjaku could be weaker than Mechamaru on a scale and still fodderize him in a fight.

Yuki < Mechamaru in raw power is a borderline insane thing to say btw
I'm not fully a inverse scaling guy but cmon man

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

sg sorcerer has nothing to do with power but immeasurable power and Kenjaku's statement about overthrowing a nation leads me to believe Yuki likely told them she can probably create a bh through her increase of vm and that's why she was designated as sg.

Deadass this gotta be the lamest headcanon ever made

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Deadass this gotta be the lamest headcanon ever made

Don't mess with JJK Fans, we'll be the first ones to downplay our own verse for agenda

 

[Rodriiogo]

Don't mess with JJK Fans, we'll be the first ones to downplay our own verse for agenda

Genuinely never seen before reverse-glazing technique

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Oh wait, it's Arkenis. It's bait

 

[Bananossauro]

She would tell them.
sg sorcerer has nothing to do with power but immeasurable power and Kenjaku's statement about overthrowing a nation leads me to believe Yuki likely told them she can probably create a bh through her increase of vm and that's why she was designated as sg. Fits the idea behind impossible to measure and fits her taking over a country either through threats or destruction.

I mean one of the first things Kenny thinks abt her initial Bombaye punch is that the mass/force is so great that its concept can't be "contained" semantically or pragmatically. That feels like it fits the idea of "impossible to measure".

Also, why would she explain her trump card suicide move? She does not like the higher ups nor goes on mission for them to know anything and they can't really force her to do anything since she is a special grade and the only ones strong enough to fight her are the other special grades who they also can't control.

The fact they did not tell an special grade in Kenny what she can do most likely implies they don't know since they actually really don't like her due to her not doing jack all for them and having intentions of screwing they shit up.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

How I felt after realizing in the time I was asleep yall argued your way through 3 pages about the Mechamaru crap:

At what point do we scrap this

 

[ElJoaki5]

Can we go back go squirrel vs mouse now?

 

[Rodriiogo]

How I felt after realizing in the time I was asleep yall argued your way through 3 pages about the Mechamaru crap:

At what point do we scrap this

It was mostly the whole "special grades" thing actually lol, mechamaru's thing has no issues, no need to scrap it
(the whole special grade output statement doesn't even really matter since all special grades should upscale 200% Mahito lol, it's just supporting evidence)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

It was mostly the whole "special grades" thing actually lol, mechamaru's thing has no issues, no need to scrap it

Uraume Ice Upscaling scaling>>>Mechamaru Year Upscaling

(the whole special grade output statement doesn't even really matter since all special grades should upscale 200% Mahito lol, it's just supporting evidence)

Sure, i'll agree to that

 

[Rodriiogo]

Uraume Ice Upscaling scaling>>>Mechamaru Year Upscaling

Sadly mechamaru's charge scales higher (+ upscales more people because of mahito), tell mappa to make that ice bigger

 

[Arkenis]

Ask a translation helper smh, i cant say whether or not chatgpt is wrong or right ion know japanese

I don't care if you can or not man, I ain't looking to argue with you about something you and I don't know.

??? this is contradicting

I'll explain it. They're saying when they're special grade they can't measure the power anymore, that the rank isn't about regular power, it's immeasurable power because the stuff they can do has no limit. So when I said "its not about power, its about immeasurable power" that is very clearly what I'm talking about.

Deadass this gotta be the lamest headcanon ever made

Deadass just an opinion. JJK readers can't accept opinions at all

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

It was mostly the whole "special grades" thing actually lol, mechamaru's thing has no issues, no need to scrap it

That’s the mechamaru stuff I’m referring to. Besides, it all goes back to the mechamaru calc anyways and assumptions of output

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Sadly mechamaru's charge scales higher (+ upscales more people because of mahito), tell mappa to make that ice bigger

Idrc that it's high, using Uraume for upscaling is WAY less handwavy and needs less defense (we got it through, after all) than Mechamaru does (it's been hours and we're still arguing)

 

[Rodriiogo]

That’s the mechamaru stuff I’m referring to. Besides, it all goes back to the mechamaru calc anyways and assumptions of output

What assumptions again

Idrc that it's high, using Uraume for upscaling is WAY less handwavy and needs less defense (we got it through, after all) than Mechamaru does (it's been hours and we're still arguing)

I still haven't seen whats handwavy with Mechamaru's feat icl, no offense to anyone defending it being wrong, but it does seem pretty straightforward. Mechamaru gets that energy, fires 1 year of that energy at mahito and it only burns him and is unable to destroy his body so he scales, this is consistent with how disaster curses are way superior to regular special grade curses as seen by multiple stuff like how 2 grade 1 sorcerers together aren't enough to exorcise Dagon, arguably the weakest disaster curse (with Overtime Nanami even saying he can't damage Dagon at all and it's like he has boundless HP), and even Naobito, at least 2nd if not arguably the strongest grade 1 we see in the series (the other contender is kukusabe), gets his nose broken by a single punch from him and can't handle his shikigami. And since the fanbook implies that some cursed spirits would indeed need special grades to defeat, it isn't far fetched to say the disaster curses are almost at the level of needing a special grade. And mechamaru's two year charge just makes it further consistent since it basically tells us Mahito is around 1/2 weaker than what the weakest special grade sorcerer would be, but idk

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

What assumptions again

People earlier talking about Mechamaru’s base output (which could still damage Mahito) vs the special grade output. Though to be fair the damage was in the anime. Manga has basically no damage and Mahito is only ever talking about soul damage even after being smacked around like 3 times

 

[Rodriiogo]

People earlier talking about Mechamaru’s base output (which could still damage Mahito) vs the special grade output. Though to be fair the damage was in the anime. Manga has basically no damage and Mahito is only ever talking about soul damage even after being smacked around like 3 times

Yea I did address how the same exact punch that Mahito takes in the anime that "damages him" also happens in the manga but Mahito takes 0 damage there. In the manga it's made clear that the only things that dealt some damage to Mahito was the one year charge and the domain bullets from Kokichi that were also powered and prepared throughout the years so even if they don't have any stated "year amount" it's more than fair to say they are that strong. So the only things damaging mahito at the end are all year powering stuff

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Deadass just an opinion. JJK readers can't accept opinions at all

Your opinion (bait) sucks

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I don't want 7-B JJK cuz people are gonna spam Deku vs JJK

 

[Rodriiogo]

I don't want 7-B JJK cuz people are gonna spam Deku vs JJK

Dw it's gonna be 7-A JJK instead

 

[Arkenis]

I don't want 7-B JJK cuz people are gonna spam Deku vs JJK

Is that not better than Gojo vs 1-A hax but 8-C physicals? Or the tenth Sukuna match where how he fights gets reduced to "he never uses domain"

 

[Arkenis]

Dw it's gonna be 7-A JJK instead

That's the spirit! (nobody will ever be 7-A three characters)

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Is that not better than Gojo vs 1-A hax but 8-C physicals? Or the tenth Sukuna match where how he fights gets reduced to "he never uses domain"

But Deku can solo via Danger Sense + IQ + Analytical Prediction that allows him to fight opponents 100x faster than himself. Every single Cursed Technique can also be countered by Danger Sense that allows him to feel extradimensional beings that exist beyond the narrative of his own manga. Not only that, but Fa Jin is the abstraction of kick itself via layered soul with verse-based ontological void manip powering the type 2 conceptual space-impact dimensional warp

 

[Rodriiogo]

That's the spirit! (nobody will ever be 7-A three characters)

Stack Yuji's black flashes amp so we have 7-A Yuji
Speaking of that tho, when will a thread be made on if the black flash amps after using it (120%) are stackable, it apparently is via Yuji "climbing up to Sukuna's level" but do we use this for the scaling like constantly multiplying 120% by the amount of black flashes they hit?

 

[Mommyleona]

They're saying when they're special grade they can't measure the power anymore, that the rank isn't about regular power, it's immeasurable power because the stuff they can do has no limit

you do know that's just flowery language really, just describing them as super duper strong, not literally immeasurable power

 

[Rodriiogo]

But Deku can solo via Danger Sense + IQ + Analytical Prediction that allows him to fight opponents 100x faster than himself. Every single Cursed Technique can also be countered by Danger Sense that allows him to feel extradimensional beings that exist beyond the narrative of his own manga. Not only that, but Fa Jin is the abstraction of kick itself via layered soul with verse-based ontological void manip powering the type 2 conceptual space-impact dimensional warp

Gojo got it because

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I don't want 7-B JJK cuz people are gonna spam Deku vs JJK

Be proud, at least Base deku won't be able to tank Flame arrow
Heavy Hitters vs 30% deku soon (Yuta'll hard carry with Rika on the low)

 

[Arkenis]

But Deku can solo via Danger Sense + IQ + Analytical Prediction that allows him to fight opponents 100x faster than himself. Every single Cursed Technique can also be countered by Danger Sense that allows him to feel extradimensional beings that exist beyond the narrative of his own manga. Not only that, but Fa Jin is the abstraction of kick itself via layered soul with verse-based ontological void manip powering the type 2 conceptual space-impact dimensional warp

Nanami should be enough

you do know that's just flowery language really, just describing them as super duper strong, not literally immeasurable power

It's not flowery language, you just got powerscaler brainrot syndrome.

The narrator is saying special grade stops being about strength, it is instead impossible to measure their power because it has no limit.
How do you take a page saying strength becomes impossible to measure as just "super duper strong" when every special grade has something that makes it impossible to gauge their power? Yuta can copy any ct and walks around with a mini bomb of endless ce, Gojo has it in his ct name and can **** with math and space, Geto can control curses and use them as an army whenever he wants, Yuki controls vm.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Potential match (we just need kagura to get past 8-A and make Innate Domain legit)

 

[Arkenis]

Pretty sure Dale or one of the supporters said there's 7C stuff.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Pretty sure Dale or one of the supporters said there's 7C stuff.

I sadly recalced it to 8-B

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I sadly recalced it to 8-B

Akemura’s a Dagon victim?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Akemura’s a Dagon victim?

Last chapter made Akemura solo anyone in JJK who isn't a curse or have Immortality

But yeah, he is a Dagon victim. He can't do shit against curses (for now)

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Last chapter made Akemura solo anyone in JJK who isn't a curse or have Immortality

But yeah, he is a Dagon victim. He can't do shit against curses (for now)

I’m a JJK fan. I can’t read so therefore he’s a Megumi victim

 

[Arkenis]

Last chapter made Akemura solo anyone in JJK who isn't a curse or have Immortality

But yeah, he is a Dagon victim. He can't do shit against curses (for now)

This what Hanami can do.

 

[Mommyleona]

It's not flowery language, you just got powerscaler brainrot syndrome.

bro what

The narrator is saying special grade stops being about strength, it is instead impossible to measure their power because it has no limit.

which is straight up a lie and just flowery language? lol what? their power can still be measured and has a limit

How do you take a page saying strength becomes impossible to measure as just "super duper strong" when every special grade has something that makes it impossible to gauge their power?

No special grade has any power that is impossible to measure

Yuta can copy any ct and walks around with a mini bomb of endless ce, Gojo has it in his ct name and can **** with math and space, Geto can control curses and use them as an army whenever he wants, Yuki controls vm.

Nothing here is "impossible to measure"

 

[Arkenis]

bro what

which is straight up a lie and just flowery language? lol what? their power can still be measured and has a limit

No special grade has any power that is impossible to measure

Nothing here is "impossible to measure"

You're right mommy, the author is wrong and is just using flowery language.

 

[Arkenis]

New Yuta agenda just dropped

 

[Mommyleona]

You're right mommy, the author is wrong and is just using flowery language.