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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Da3ggman said:
Bros acting like Chariot hasn’t won every single argument he’s been apart of on site in the past 5 years lol.
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Rogue_Forge said:
I just realized, I never actually said I agreed even though my names on the agree section
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JJK AP and Minor Speed Upgrade CRT

Main AP Upgrades This calculation has been accepted and in this CGM Discussion thread, agreed upon to be used over the currently used one. This was performed by Uraume, and according to the statement of Ryu boasting the highest CE Output among all Culling Game Players, with Uraume being a...
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I mean, y'all know I would agree anyways but still
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How could I not, my goat?
 
Rodriiogo said:
No, it uses run time as in for how long can a car run before running out of gas, not literally walking, the walking KE is only used as the bare minimum/baseline of energy needed to the point where it's still running and not turned off/out of energy so it kept accumulating CE.

The feat should theorically be higher than the value that we get but we can't assume anything other than the bare minimum here.

And here's the thread

And here's a cgm explaining how the calc works on Joaki's old calc
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“Neutral for now, I'm very iffy on the KE scaling to one second of the charge (tho at least it's better than scaling goddamn Ultimate Canon to it)”
This was a question brought up in the thread that was just never addressed in the 7 pages
the thread took up.

Take a look at the calc, they calculate the KE of him walking and assumes that energy only takes up 1second’s worth of cursed energy.
This is a substantial assumption.
We don’t know how much energy walking or punching takes up for the machine, the bar we see shows how much energy he has in terms of time.
The more energy he uses, the less time he has.
It stops at days. It doesn’t show hours, minutes or seconds. How can you say that walking only takes up 1second of energy?
 
LaserPrecision said:
Argument from incredulity isn't evidence to support your claim.

And yes, there is something suggesting it; Language. Kenjaku made a general statement, which default to bare minimum the least of said class, and at best the average.

If someone says "He's already on the level of an athlete!" the burden of proof is on you to prove that means the coach is referring to the number 1 athlete or any other arbitrary extremely high pedestal. Deflecting burden isn't proving your claim. Prove the general statement is in reference to the strongest of Special Grades. You can't, because it's obvious if Kenjaku meant the most exceptional Special Grades, that would've been implied or explicitly affirmed.
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Bro what kinda explanation is this? If this is your explanation unc gonna think hes right
 
BiggestOpp said:
I’ll concede to Mechu’s canon being pure CE, think I was too into the statement of it burning Mahito up.

I still disagree with this.
absolutely nothing depicts his tone being causal.
Occam’s razor doesn’t help what you’re claiming, it’d be different if he said “His output is like that of a special grade” or “approaching that of a special grade” but he just says it’s special grade level.
That ranges from the guy who made panda all the way to Sukuna and Gojo.
It’s vague and I don’t believe it’s more accurate to assume this is referring to the absolute bottom or average, I don’t think there’s enough tone or context to assume anything.

But enough about that, the original calc for this assumes that he only expends a second’s worth of CE to walk right? Can someone send me the thread where this was accepted?
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Its near baseline special grade level cause Kenjaku states he has special grade level of output after his two year charge. He had used one year charge before that and that yet didnt fall into special grade output.

Based on that, in simple terms, Mechamaru reaches special grade levels of output with the two year charge. As thats when Kenjaku states he has special grade output.
 
BiggestOpp said:
“Neutral for now, I'm very iffy on the KE scaling to one second of the charge (tho at least it's better than scaling goddamn Ultimate Canon to it)”
This was a question brought up in the thread that was just never addressed in the 7 pages
the thread took up.

Take a look at the calc, they calculate the KE of him walking and assumes that energy only takes up 1second’s worth of cursed energy.
This is a substantial assumption.
We don’t know how much energy walking or punching takes up for the machine, the bar we see shows how much energy he has in terms of time.
The more energy he uses, the less time he has.
It stops at days. It doesn’t show hours, minutes or seconds. How can you say that walking only takes up 1second of energy?
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No. The bar shows the activity limit of the robot. Activity limit meaning how long the robot can operate for (move around) with said amount energy.
 
Ah yes my High 7-C blast that only reduces a part of a bridge to rumble

new calc is a lot better math wise but I don't like scaling the mid-tiers all the way to High 7-C from a single calc when their feats are consistently 8-B tbh

Whatever happened with Toge's earthquake calc?
 
BiggestOpp said:
“Neutral for now, I'm very iffy on the KE scaling to one second of the charge (tho at least it's better than scaling goddamn Ultimate Canon to it)”
This was a question brought up in the thread that was just never addressed in the 7 pages
the thread took up.
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Because it was adressed in the feat itself + that literally isn't a question what

BiggestOpp said:
Take a look at the calc, they calculate the KE of him walking and assumes that energy only takes up 1second’s worth of cursed energy.
This is a substantial assumption.
We don’t know how much energy walking or punching takes up for the machine, the bar we see shows how much energy he has in terms of time.
The more energy he uses, the less time he has.
It stops at days. It doesn’t show hours, minutes or seconds. How can you say that walking only takes up 1second of energy?
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The time is how much mechamaru can run (as in runtime), like when your phone says it has "3 hours worth of battery left". That's what's being calc'd here. Mechamaru should be able to at least move around during that time, and that's what calc'd
 
Lilybitdun said:
Ah yes my High 7-C blast that only reduces a part of a bridge to rumble

new calc is a lot better math wise but I don't like scaling the mid-tiers all the way to High 7-C from a single calc when their feats are consistently 8-B tbh

Whatever happened with Toge's earthquake calc?
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I rewatched the movie recently, i think it was actually caused by Geto via unknown means.



Still his plummet should be calced since geto tanks that with no harm
 
Lilybitdun said:
Ah yes my High 7-C blast that only reduces a part of a bridge to rumble

new calc is a lot better math wise but I don't like scaling the mid-tiers all the way to High 7-C from a single calc when their feats are consistently 8-B tbh
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I don't see any inconsistency with Mahito scaling to it considering the narrative of how strong the disaster curses are tho ngl

Lilybitdun said:
Whatever happened with Toge's earthquake calc?
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Buraq did bring up it being High 7-C
 
Lilybitdun said:
Ah yes my High 7-C blast that only reduces a part of a bridge to rumble

new calc is a lot better math wise but I don't like scaling the mid-tiers all the way to High 7-C from a single calc when their feats are consistently 8-B tbh
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But what if there were THREE
Lilybitdun said:
Whatever happened with Toge's earthquake calc?
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Nothing. Nothing happened. You can calc it too (use one of my recent calcs to find a link for 4.3 meter floors) and calc it yourself then send it to Eljoakibearchan to evaluate, hey, maybe I should do that
 
Buraqibear said:
Nothing. Nothing happened. You can calc it too (use one of my recent calcs to find a link for 4.3 meter floors) and calc it yourself then send it to Eljoakibearchan to evaluate, hey, maybe I should do that
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So we wanking via purposely using higher storey heights huh?
 
Lilybitdun said:
Ah yes my High 7-C blast that only reduces a part of a bridge to rumble

new calc is a lot better math wise but I don't like scaling the mid-tiers all the way to High 7-C from a single calc when their feats are consistently 8-B tbh
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Abaddon is making a whole scaling thing and is considering that the gap between the disasters and the high tiers shouldnt be that big + that they can be downscaled
 
ElJoaki5 said:
Yes dude, yuta literally states that.
Inumakis plumet caused one and then geto caused another via unknown means
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I rewatched the scene, toge's "earthquake" isn't shown, geto's was and yuta said "another quake" in response to geto. We can't really tell how strong toge's was unless we scale his to geto's.
 
Rodriiogo said:
Also will Yuta's black flash from the Movie be included in his JJK0-self scaling
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Going off this since this is related,

How do we treat Rika's Love Beams in relation to black flashes from Yuta?
It's shown in 0 to do more damage to Geto than a black flash did but idk
 
ElJoaki5 said:
So we wanking via purposely using higher storey heights huh?
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Ey man, it's not wrong if it's wrong
Rodriiogo said:
Going off this since this is related,

How do we treat Rika's Love Beams in relation to black flashes from Yuta?
It's shown in 0 to do more damage to Geto than a black flash did but idk
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That one was death amped so we can probably use the 2.5x multiplier for that but not for other ones.
 
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