Rouge the Bat(Game) vs Caulifla

[Mgebrat282]

Battle location: RoSaT
Distance: 15 meters
Both at their peaks

 

[Mgebrat282]

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[Kellex]

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[McFriesGuy075]

Caulifla scales to 3 Universes, Rouge scales to 12... This is a stomp.

And since you didn't equalize speed Rouge gigablitzes Caulifla.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Caulifla scales to 3 Universes, Rouge scales to 12... This is a stomp.

And since you didn't equalize speed Rouge gigablitzes Caulifla.

Shouldn't multipliers make a difference?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Shouldn't multipliers make a difference?

2-C and above comes down to uncountable infinities. You can't reach 4 Universes at 3 with multipliers.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

That's the standards the site has for Low 2-C.

 

[Mgebrat282]

2-C and above comes down to uncountable infinities. You can't reach 4 Universes at 3 with multipliers.

Why? Like, in that case, when adding each universe, you need to add an incalculable infinite difference, and when you reach an infinite number of universes, it becomes infinitely dimensional. It's like in The Dark Tower, where each step surpasses the previous one on an infinite scale, and there are an infinite number of steps. Isn't it?

 

[McFriesGuy075]

Why? Like, in that case, when adding each universe, you need to add an incalculable infinite difference, and when you reach an infinite number of universes, it becomes infinitely dimensional. It's like in The Dark Tower, where each step surpasses the previous one on an infinite scale, and there are an infinite number of steps. Isn't it?

Last time I checked there was something about "distance between universes" or some mumbo jumbo. It's not something some staff agree on.

 

[Mgebrat282]

Last time I checked there was something about "distance between universes" or some mumbo jumbo. It's not something some staff agree on.

I understand that universes are separated by "emptiness" and energy simply cannot reach another universe, regardless of how hard you hit it. It's like comparing it to bricks. I can break two bricks, but I cannot break the third one because it's in a different room. To destroy multiple universes, you need the ability to do so. But doesn't the power that can destroy two universes with a millionth of its strength give it an advantage over simply being able to destroy three universes? It's like power with abilitie to destroy 3 brick that are in different rooms is weaker than power to destroy 1 brick with 1/100000 of it's strenght.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

I'm not exactly the best person to discuss this with. If you genuinely have plans to change this you should request the staff to make a Staff Discussion thread about this.

 

[LaserPrecision]

It's like power with abilitie to destroy 3 brick that are in different rooms is weaker than power to destroy 1 brick with 1/100000 of it's strenght.

Destroying 3 bricks that are apart can be more impressive than destroying 1 brick with a millionth of their strength. It just depends on distance due to inverse square law

 

[Mgebrat282]

Destroying 3 bricks that are apart can be more impressive than destroying 1 brick with a millionth of their strength. It just depends on distance due to inverse square law

But if we consider this only in terms of power, without taking into account the ability, then this is already the destruction of the rooms themselves, where each brick is located, and we know that it takes an infinite amount of energy to destroy another room. Wouldn't this give the destruction of three rooms a higher dimension?

 

[LaserPrecision]

But if we consider this only in terms of power, without taking into account the ability, then this is already the destruction of the rooms themselves, where each brick is located, and we know that it takes an infinite amount of energy to destroy another room. Wouldn't this give the destruction of three rooms a higher dimension?

No, the distance between Universes is treated as undefined IIRC, but if there was infinite distance, that wouldn't be enough for higher dimensional AP. Because it's countably infinite, not uncountably Infinite. I'd just recommend making a QnA thread about it tbh.

 

[MugenKage]

Shouldn't multipliers make a difference?

Even if multipliers were accepted to work that way with universes, the speed gap is still literally infinite, the fight would end too fast for any SSJ/SSJ2 multipliers, plus Rouge has access to stuff like the Blue Wisp which’ll transmute Caulifla even if she did go SSJ/SSJ2

 

[Mgebrat282]

No, the distance between Universes is treated as undefined IIRC, but if there was infinite distance, that wouldn't be enough for higher dimensional AP. Because it's countably infinite, not uncountably Infinite. I'd just recommend making a QnA thread about it tbh.

Sorry, but "distance between universes is treated as undefied" doesn't even make sense to me. Then amount of universes shouldn't make sense even more, because if difference between 5 and 6 is undefined(except numerical), then multipliers should work. Also by infinite I meant unconntable infinity(it's just easier) cuz we talked about unc inf later(and shouldn't be infinity in fiction be already uncountable, because when I say it mean all numbers and that there are no boundaries fro them? Just thinking out loud, cuz I want to start writing)

 

[Mgebrat282]

Even if multipliers were accepted to work that way with universes, the speed gap is still literally infinite, the fight would end too fast for any SSJ/SSJ2 multipliers, plus Rouge has access to stuff like the Blue Wisp which’ll transmute Caulifla even if she did go SSJ/SSJ2

Well, Kid Buu already could destroy universe 7, when Goku in base from the end of BoG could one-shot him, then Goku got stronger and stronger

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Does Rouge have optional equipment?

 

[Mgebrat282]

Does Rouge have optional equipment?

No, neither Caulifla

 

[JED]

Rouge FRA

 

[LukeChaosBlobz]

Rouge fra

 

[McFriesGuy075]

There's literally no room for debate here, it's a stomp. It can't be added to profiles.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Sorry, but "distance between universes is treated as undefied" doesn't even make sense to me. Then amount of universes shouldn't make sense even more, because if difference between 5 and 6 is undefined(except numerical), then multipliers should work. Also by infinite I meant unconntable infinity(it's just easier) cuz we talked about unc inf later(and shouldn't be infinity in fiction be already uncountable, because when I say it mean all numbers and that there are no boundaries fro them? Just thinking out loud, cuz I want to start writing)

This is why I said it'd be best to make a QnA thread so mods can answer for ya.

 

[Mgebrat282]

This is why I said it'd be best to make a QnA thread so mods can answer for ya.

Well, I figured this thing out. In principle, we do not compare characters from different verses within the framework of tiers 2-c and 2-b, as this is simply impossible due to the "Unknown" (not in the sense that one verse is stronger than the other due to the number of universes, but because overcoming this "Unknown" in one verse can be infinitely more difficult than in another verse, where it can be achieved by simply doubling the power). So Rouge isn't stronger or weaker than Caulifla, we just can't compare them because of this "Unknown" between universes.

 

[Mgebrat282]

So, I'm gonna destroy this VS thread.

 

[Mgebrat282]

...But how?

 

[Kellex]

...But how?

You can go to all purpose thread and ask for this thread to be closed there.

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