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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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An isolated case, I suppose, and at that time Sunday and Wonweek weren't at 100%, which is why Sunday wanted to harmonize with him, to regain his full form.
And besides, I honestly doubt that he still possesses the power of the Emanator that he had as Septimus.
Mbpoops
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That makes sense how would he be an emanator of ENA is dead
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The real question is, "Why would Wonweek still have Septimus's power?" when it's not even clear that he re-summoned Dominicus.
Mbpoops
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True like you mentioned before sunday was just trying to harmonize his other half and its never explained if that half of sunday kept the septimus’ power
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I think he should, he's he's always been scaled the same as Kiana, and like Kiana he also gained the power of finality at one point, but I'm not 100% sure
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Why is everyone L1A all of a sudden
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BRO I SENT YOU THE CRT TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOU GHOSTED IT
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waowBRO I SENT YOU THE CRT TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOU GHOSTED IT
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Btw if you're wondering. It only affected the Post Fuli Gaze Cyrene and Irontomb mfs. No other people will be getting it. The only ones who will be getting it are the future ten stonehearts profiles and its only bc hammer.
There me and @Enryu_The_Red_Tower finished Topaz
Topaz (Honkai: Star Rail)
Topaz, whose real name is Jelena, is a Senior Manager of the Strategic Investment Department in the Interastral Peace Corporation, one of the Ten Stonehearts, and leader of the Special Debts Picket Team. Her Cornerstone is the "Topaz of Debt Retrieval". Topaz's partner, the Warp Trotter "Numby"...
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Why would “Irontomb mfs” even get the tier. I mean, I don’t even believe Irontomb’s core is 1-B itself
Mbpoops
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Btw if you're wondering. It only affected the Post Fuli Gaze Cyrene and Irontomb mfs. No other people will be getting it. The only ones who will be getting it are the future ten stonehearts profiles and its only bc hammer.
There me and @Enryu_The_Red_Tower finished Topaz
Topaz (Honkai: Star Rail)
Topaz, whose real name is Jelena, is a Senior Manager of the Strategic Investment Department in the Interastral Peace Corporation, one of the Ten Stonehearts, and leader of the Special Debts Picket Team. Her Cornerstone is the "Topaz of Debt Retrieval". Topaz's partner, the Warp Trotter "Numby"...
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Thats why I sent you the crt
But heres the reasoning/proposal that got accepted.
Btw Cyrene's bow attack clashed and contended with Irontomb's imaginary tree wiping attack. The same bow attack that the core was withstanding several times during the fight. The bow is also vastly weaker than Epics, As we've written. Their strongest attack that Irontomb somewhat withstood a few times.
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It’s like every time I’m about to downgrade something, ya’ll find another thing to wankThats why I sent you the crt
But heres the reasoning/proposal that got accepted.
Btw Cyrene's bow attack clashed and contended with Irontomb's imaginary tree wiping attack. The same bow attack that the core was withstanding several times during the fight. The bow is also vastly weaker than Epics, As we've written. Their strongest attack that Irontomb somewhat withstood a few times.
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It’s not like I dmed you the crt to give your thoughts on the scaling/justifications, invited everyone in the low 1-a crt to come to the new crt to finish off the conclusion of the scaling, and pinged the hsr supporters and you to give yalls thoughts.
But yeah regarding the core shtick. Irontomb’s core tanked and withstood Cyrene’s bow several times and that same bow clashed with the imaginary tree wiping attack.
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So why didn’t Cyrene use that bow attack the first time Irontomb nuked shit.
It’s like
Cyrene Bow > Self-Coronation > Core > Cyrene Bow
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Because she became that powerful after all amps she got fed by nous and fuli
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Because they were amped and empowered before they restored everyone
Even then during the fight, they had to damage Irontomb severely and spam Epics, as we've written on it
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First, what Nous ampBecause she became that powerful after all amps she got fed by nous and fuli
Second, yea. So it can’t be that other arrows are the same strength as her main arrow. The Core got folded in half after buff
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ovaj moj kurac
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Its the same arrows / Bow attack? Irontomb was already malfunctioning and damaged by their constant onslaught. The bow attack is also weaker than Epics, As we've written, which is the combine attack of Stelle, March 7th, Dan Heng, all the Chrysos Heirs, and Cyrene into 1, which Irontomb did withstand atleast a few times, albeit a ton of damage.
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I mean ts could js genuinely be talking about Nous’ Instants ngl
Yea so why didn’t they just beat Irontomb the first time if they were just as strong? What’s the point of getting everyone nuked?
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It's beautifulBtw if you're wondering. It only affected the Post Fuli Gaze Cyrene and Irontomb mfs. No other people will be getting it. The only ones who will be getting it are the future ten stonehearts profiles and its only bc hammer.
There me and @Enryu_The_Red_Tower finished Topaz
Topaz (Honkai: Star Rail)
Topaz, whose real name is Jelena, is a Senior Manager of the Strategic Investment Department in the Interastral Peace Corporation, one of the Ten Stonehearts, and leader of the Special Debts Picket Team. Her Cornerstone is the "Topaz of Debt Retrieval". Topaz's partner, the Warp Trotter "Numby"...
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fate hax amp
Because...uhhh...she was Complete Irontomb victim before ever tapping into actual power after universe got nuked idk...?
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Yea so the actual amp is the one where she shoots the bigass arrow towards Irontomb and oneshots the mf. That’s what possibly Low 1-A. The core doesn’t scale to that at all.fate hax amp
Because...uhhh...she was Complete Irontomb victim before ever tapping into actual power after universe got nuked idk...?
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No? the amp lasts entire fight, in fact the moment irontomb coronated you genuenly did 0 damage to the mf, you started dealing actual damage after entire amp cutscene and shit, with throwing as ive written ability then you genuenly start fighting complete irontomb, tho idk how would he NOT be low 1-A if it took amps from 2 aeons vro
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The second fight in which we completely shit on him? Isn’t the only cutscene after the amp him getting absolutely wrecked by the arrow?
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Theres like whole ass fight too, unless we take gameplay fight as non existent which makes zero sense considering 99% of fights in hsr are like that (outside zephygoat giving belt to ass to his son)
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Because they were empowered? They were straight up amped by 2 Aeons/paths.
Its also not like Irontomb upon competition has an entire Infinity symbol to represent its invulnerability. Not like Complete Irontomb has the most hp in the game, even WAY more than the whale gamemode on Plight difficulty, to represent how much stronger it became.
Its also not like we have a ridiculous damage buff upon being empowered by 2 Aeons/path.
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I am really not sure what this addresses about my point. I think we got confused somewhere along the wayBecause they were empowered? They were straight up amped by 2 Aeons/paths.
Its also not like Irontomb upon competition has an entire Infinity symbol to represent its invulnerability. Not like Complete Irontomb has the most hp in the game, even WAY more than the whale gamemode on Plight difficulty, to represent how much stronger it became.
Its also not like we have a ridiculous damage buff upon being empowered by 2 Aeons/path.
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You asked why they didnt just nuke Irontomb the first time and letting everyone get nuked. Its because they were only as strong as a mere Emanator? They never got amped. Mid way through Phase 2 Irontomb because completed as seen with the Infinite HP Bar (which the HP bar is for Irontomb’s core too btw) and nuked everyone. Cyrene and Stelle were amped by the Erudition and the Remembrance after Irontomb nuked everything and they were in Path Space. They physically literally couldn’t do anything until after they ran it back with Irontomb.
Just saying it unironically requires more extrapolation to say they didnt get amped by the erudition and that they never got stronger at all than it is to say they did get amped/stronger.
The game even made this clear with their damage output/hp. This is the ONLY BOSS that went out of it’s way to make it 100% clear they got stronger barring the Sunday fight the Robin buff. Hell, it was LEAGUES above Robin’s buff as well.
Mind you someone already tried to contend this scaling by saying they werent amped and it still passed in the same CRT. Then another crt was proposed with the same reasoning that they were amped and it passed yet again by another 2 sets of mods (vietthai)
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im hearing robin upscale
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I can’t even give Robin an AP value. If she had one then Sunday would’ve already had a scale.
Mbpoops
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elation robin will be outer bro trust
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I am pretty sure after the amp, the Core back at the state it was before self-coronation since it only gets the “infinite HP” almost immediately before the spear attack. So it might only be back at that level when he attempts to do the attack again but gets smacked by Cyrene. Which uhhhhh. I guesssssss it might be scalable…? But it’s such a short timeframe ngl and he still needed to build up power so I remain kinda skeptical at that too cuz it seems weird for it to be equal to the spear attack
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Aventurine of Stratagems Vs Topaz of Debt Retrieval (Honkai: Star Rail)
Aventurine Vs Topaz Fight takes place in Penacony Fight OST: (Too lazy to find an HSR ost that isn't Proi Proi)
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The thing is about the infinite hp thingy is, Irontomb is still at that invulnerable/infinite hp state when Cyrene and Stelle spun it back to run its fade again.
Which in turn, they used their strongest attack to severely damage Irontomb. Which here even after that, it still has like a trillion HP (Even higher than whale gamemode on hard mode)
The core/Irontomb before self-coronation never had an obnoxious amount of HP so it was only mere Emanator level.
Even when Irontomb tried to launch the attack again, it never regained that level of hp again, because it had already reached its completed state. (Even then, Irontomb still tanked Epics, As We've Written)
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Have yall noticed these mfs struggled to prevent Ironomb's completion and got cooked by it yet successfully prevented Sunday's ascension with a small ass group of people compared to the 10 different alliances and 5 different star systems jumping Irontomb
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because welt didnt help them stop irontomb trust
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