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Let me guess, that calcs yours
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Rodriiogo
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It would help with the consistency for city level top tiers, specially if mahito being High 7-C happens alongside it
High 7-C for Mahito's level while Top tiers being 7-B and God tiers are 7-A (the multipliers) doesn't sound inconsistent
Arkenis
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Yeah 200% is fine, but this is base. Almost no one interacts with Mahito during this beside Yuji and Todo and they already scale to the most durable disaster curse so I could see it making sense.
Rodriiogo
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200% scaling to the special grade level would mean that base mahito scales to the one year charge tho?
Base Mahito is 1/2 of 200% Mahito
One Year Charge is 1/2 of the two year charge (special grade level)
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well.. both are fine, but ig Vswiki dms
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Its ok just let me see it, i wont laughBro, I was 13. ITS THE CGM FAULT FOR ACCEPTING IT
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I don't mind too much if we do or don't, but even if we don't stick with High 7-C Mahito stuff, shouldn't we account for the power he was at when he performed the feats of his current rating? He outright gives percentages for everyone in the fight (Himself, Yuji, and Todo) which I brought up before.
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I'll send it on both if both are fine cuz vs wiki dms suck, but are still usable
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Bro, I was 13. ITS THE CGM FAULT FOR ACCEPTING IT
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Maybe. Don't really know how to calc that but I could probably figure it out.
Rodriiogo
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As in? I'm pretty sure the current page already uses the percentages for his scaling (that's why ISBODK is MCB no?)
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Just do the math
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It was Mahito saying that Todo was effectively at 100%, Yuji was at 10%, and Mahito himself was at around 40%. Seems like it was talking about their souls/health though
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No. I'm not talking about ISBODK. I'm talking about the fact Mahito said he was fighting at 40%, Todo was at 100%, and IIRC Yuji was below 50% too but I'd have to check again. Meaning when he performed his CIty Block level feat in ISBODK, he wasn't at full power, and that'd need to be accounted for (As well for his base which is half the strength)
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Real quick, Kenny says that cause he's still under the assumption that everything special about Yuta comes from Rika.
When we later learn both his ability to copy techniques and his CE amount are special to him, even without Rika.
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That yes. Though I did explain earlier why the soul heal should be correlated directly to output given how the body reflects the soul, and how soul damage is shown to weaken people drastically to crippling levels.
Rodriiogo
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Oh I guess so then. If the High 7-C is accepted it would also probably help give a number for grade 1 level since 100% Todo would scale to whatever percentage of Mahito/Yuji's High 7-C they are on
Rodriiogo
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15F Sukuna's cloud feat other timeframe end would probably help support the blackhole feat itself but I don't know which one would be more probable to be accepted atp
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Nothing to lose
Arkenis
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Oh maybe? I forgot which one he got hit by
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He got hit by the 1 year charge
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So youre actually auntyleona?
I'd be younger than you too then
Rodriiogo
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I'd say what should be argued in a future thread (if everything gets accepted) for the city level top tiers consistency is like
Grade 1 Sorcerer (prob not all of them) - Town level+ (94.24 Kilotons via Todo's 100% scaling to 40% of Base Mahito)
Base Mahito - Large Town level (235.59 Kilotons, via Mechamaru's One Year Charge)
200% Mahito/Baseline to be a Special Grade Sorcerer - Large Town level (471.18 Kilotons, via Mechamaru's Two Year Charge)
Kenjaku (And anyone that scales) - City level (10.83 Megatons via the Blackhole feat)
15F Sukuna + Shibuya Mahoraga - City level (31.31 Megatons via the Anime Cloud splitting feat)
Grade 1 Sorcerer (prob not all of them) - Town level+ (94.24 Kilotons via Todo's 100% scaling to 40% of Base Mahito)
Base Mahito - Large Town level (235.59 Kilotons, via Mechamaru's One Year Charge)
200% Mahito/Baseline to be a Special Grade Sorcerer - Large Town level (471.18 Kilotons, via Mechamaru's Two Year Charge)
Kenjaku (And anyone that scales) - City level (10.83 Megatons via the Blackhole feat)
15F Sukuna + Shibuya Mahoraga - City level (31.31 Megatons via the Anime Cloud splitting feat)
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That would actually be fire. We can leave geto and jjk0 yuta at large town level and latter yuta forms to city level which would make more sense that what we do now.
Although ryu and by extension everyone that scales to kenjaku would also scale to 15 f Sukuna.
Rodriiogo
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I think if both the blackhole feat and the other timeframe for 15F Sukuna gets accepted we dont need to upscale them to the numbers of 15F Sukuna since a gap of not even 3x between them and the dismantles would make sense on why it cant fully pierce through their body/do any fatal wounds despite doing damage (as seen with Ryu, Yuta and Yuji)
I'm pretty sure a 3x difference isn't enough to immediatly do fatal wounds in one attack specially when said lower person has RCT
It'd be a different story if we were still using the "large mountain level" one but if both are not even 3x apart I think it can be left like that(?). It seems consistent imo
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I guess she could really be or motherLeona:
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I'd like to note Yuji was at 10% during the fight. And he kept up with Mahito and Todo. Meaning his 10% is on par with Mahito's 40% and Todo's 100% (Which makes sense as Yuji's obviously far physically stronger than Mahito, and Todo stated Yuji was already stronger than him as far back as the Goodwill Event, and said he was falling behind the two). That'd make Yuji 4x stronger than base Mahito in peak condition only.
That said Yuji, Todo, and Mahito were fighting at 120% after landing their Black Flashes. So Todo would be at 120% power, Yuji would be at 120% of 10%, and Mahito would be at 120% of 40%. Tho I don't think that matters since it should equal everything out since they all had the boost.
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Using the % that Mahito stated was something that no one ever thought about using at face value. Last time I remember I think people thought it was dumb due to the 120% statement later, but I guess it makes sence in a way. But Todo being over 10 times weaker than Itadori is really, REALLY weird.
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Mahito is not referring to Yuji's actual condition, his soul cant be at 10% because Mahito never ever damaged him with IT to begin with (cuz he cant)
Instead, Mahito is likely referring to Yuji's mental state, which is the thing he was trying to break before
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Yeah, I know people didn't really consider it. But I think I gave good reasoning as to why it works by now, and it does make things make sense consistency-wise in terms of tiering, and doesn't cause crazy chain-scaling like Todo being Special Grade level despite being weaker than Goodwill Event Yuji who has gotten much stronger sense then.
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considering CE is all but confirmed to come from the soul, it's likely that it is an at least semi-accurate rating
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"Body is the soul, soul is the body". However, soul is never stated to be related to the mind. And it wouldn't make sense since Mahito also stated that he was at 40% despiste his mind being fine.
One thing is that the 10% Itadori and 40% Mahito is when they are using 120% of the Black Flash tho
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I just cleared this up in DMS elsewhere, but the mind being weaker making his soul drop to 40% actually makes sense, as we know you need a strong mental state to control cursed energy effeciently, otherwise your output plummets, or at worst you can't use it at all (Remember Prison Arc Yuji? He was scared and not able to control his emotions due to being traumatized at the time, and couldn't use CE). So mental state actually affecting that makes sense, because 40% is in reference to the Cursed Energy Sorcerers use to protect their souls subconsciously. Meaning Yuji's output dropped to 10% CE protecting his soul as opposed to the normal 100%.
So it actually does all tie up pretty neatly.
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