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Lute vs Naoya
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Anonymous_Learner
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Cursed Spirit invisibility and invulnerability shenanigans, make it human naoya to give lute a chance
Anonymous_Learner
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Naoya's nonexistent Social influencing will come in clutch
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Naoya locking the **** in because he can never lose to a woman.
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Except that he lost to Maki...but she's Toji 2.0 so it doesn't count again
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Bro got put down by Maki's mom wielding a normal ass knife.
(Also, fix the link for Naoya. It doesn't lead to his profile)
Anyway, assuming he's human, is speed unequalized? Lute would be Supersonic, so she can kinda just blitz him without Projection Sorcery.
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It was technically the knife that killed Naoya, so again or doesn't count.
Also I'll fix it when I get back from work, since it's supposed to be curse form Naoya instead of regular one. And also speed is equalized
Anonymous_Learner
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BUMP
Anonymous_Learner
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you should note wheter or not speed is equalized (Though, you can just use Lute's Subsonic speed scaling and the matchup'll go fine)
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Don't worry I made speed equalized
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Genuinely nothing, but human Naoya is weaker than lute so it just becomes a recreation of the Choso fight but female
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A less than 2x AP difference isn't gonna stop him from beating her up. Only chance I see for Lute is if she could grab Naoya and land one good hit with her spear.
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Naoya didn't lose due to being weaker tho? He lost due to Choso's strategies and blood poisoning.
Eden_Warlock99
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She's a whole no-sell over her value
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Where does it say that?
Eden_Warlock99
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Eden_Warlock99
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Just like toughs it out
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That's not what her durability section says on the current profile. Also, we see angels get hurt by gravity in two different instances, one of which involves Lute herself.
It's a durability thing, not Immortality or Invulnerability.
Eden_Warlock99
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It's Vaggie's and guess what's the first line in Lute's durability section, "Comparable to Vaggie"
Arkenis
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Why is it in the immortality section?
I'll vote Naoya then. I don't see how she survives getting repeatedly slapped around, especially with him amping his power more and more
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Eden_Warlock99
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Yes. That's the reason why it's a durability thing and not the hax Invulnerability?
Or are you trying to say she should be 9-B or something?
If it changes anything, she's outright invincible to people twice Naoya's AP
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I'm saying she can still take damage and can be worn down unless you can prove that she's completely immune to any harm at all.
No, she isn't. Anyone could've dropped those debris on her and she still would've gotten hurt. 93 tons is also not twice Naoya's AP.
Arkenis
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Shouldn't matter, Maki was a step above Naoya as well and he was slapping her around. Choso is stronger than Naoya, and Naoya was slapping him around and both were afraid of the predicament due to his ct. Additionally, Naoya can just stab her multiple times and she'll weaken over time. Naoya's unlikely to get hit unless Lute can enhance eyesight to see better and from what I see she has no speed amp for that.
Also you guys should get rid of these "can only be killed by angelic weapons" that isn't true apparently yet multiple characters say it? Confused asf
Eden_Warlock99
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You're arguing with a ghost. When did I say she literally couldn't be harmed by anything at all?
I'm saying Sinners, who are 93 Tons a.k.a. a fair bit higher than Naoya's 58 Tons, have literally no means at harming her, and this also extends to their guns and knives that shred those 93 Tons Sinners. And the debris thing is indeed PIS unless you think falling rocks will ever hurt a 8-A lol
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It's not PIS. It's just an anti-feat outlier.
Eden_Warlock99
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Def should just be 8-A, yeah. Though, she's becoming Low 5-B once the Season 2 Hazbin CRT drops anyway.
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Might as well be.
Except we see her and other angels get harmed twice without any Angelic weapons needed.
It sure looks like they're not getting hurt.
Arkenis
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Why is this match even being discussed
Arkenis
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That was a bomb.
Eden_Warlock99
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Yeah, when they rammed into the forcefield their angelic spears couldn't pop, made by the strongest guy around that isn't an Archangel.
This is like arguing Ryu would get folded by Yuji cause Sukuna one-shot him, like huh?
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aint no way
Eden_Warlock99
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That was an angelic bomb btw, a regular one wouldn't do anything to them.
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