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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

I mean hey, higher value plus it wasn’t made by you so you can eval it? Plus side? (I just need something so I don’t say like 2 and a half hours of my life at 3 am got wasted doing a calc for no reason. If you’re wondering why it took 2 and a half hours it’s cause I realized at the very end I ****** up my measurements on the first image and had to reset)
But whos gonna skibidi evaluate my calcs? Unretire pls 🐿️
 
Based on nothing lol any form of Sukuna that fought Yuta was weakened due to Yuji lol
Quantify how weakened he was and we'll talk
Otherwise they're all still relative and Sukuna is holding back all the time for both, so yeah it is pure agenda to say that Kashimo is superior, Rika however automatically makes it a 2v1, with Rika being superior to Yuta
And no, when Yuta only came into the fight, Sukuna was NOT weakened yet, and on the contrary was recovering his rct which means output was stabilizing too
Based on nothing once more
"Nuh uh"
Wtf do you mean "based on nothing once more"???????
Ryu now doesnt have the highest output in CG? Which would be above Kashimo, Uraume etc.
Did you even read the manga?
Or Yuta wasnt running a gauntlet? He didnt first kill Dhruv, then kill Kuro, then fight Uro and Ryu repeatedly, winning against both at the end?
Or Yuta wasnt holding back despite himself saying he was and not using his sword?
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Where is BASED ON NOTHING COMING FROM HUH???
So we are just gonna ignore Kashimo keeping up with three out of four arms in hand to hand combat (which is combat speed btw)??
Show him "keeping up"
Yuta needs Rika to even keep up with TWO arms brother
Agenda speaking yet again, both get overwhelmed if Sukuna tries more, and btw he was more excited for Yuta coming
Partially manifested Rika BY HERSELF can pressure 4 arms Sukuna
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The same Yuji that got blitzed and one tapped multiple times by a non-serious Sukuna (and only survives because of blood manip and rct)? Brother please
yeah, and? no contradiction here whatsoever, Yuji is the only one Sukuna specifically wanted dead the most, so he would go for the kill everytime
Still no correlation to Kashimo btw
Hollow Wicker Basket which can be used temporarily without keeping his arms up lol
ah yea, kashimo gets a few seconds of standing still being beatdown by Rika and blasted by things like TiB
And that presupposes Yuta is fast enough to even open it in the first place
agenda speaking again, apparently Sukuna wasnt fast enough but kashimo will be???????? lmaooooooooo
 
Also for the record, Maki's denial is superseded by official statements literally repeating what Yuta said. Maki denies that shi based on nothing
Official statements? ahh the ones that say Yuta is top 2 behind only Gojo in the modern era?
 
Also think about it El, low 7-c+ Jogo, that means low 7-c+ Hanami cause they have higher durability and thus low 7-c+ Yuji. This was perfect for my agenda scaling blog cause I was gonna argue tier gaps weren’t that high. But I also just realized Buraqi made a thread upgrading top tiers to high 7-c so the same issue is gonna be there… eh whatever class g upgrade and low 7-c+ for shibuya tiers

Also what were the plans for upgrades again for everyone if there were any?
 
Also what were the plans for upgrades again for everyone if there were any?
1. Buraqis current crt
2. Applying LifeOfKings multipliers
3. City level high tiers via kenjaku black hole and mechamarus charges recalcs (maybe class p strength)
4. Mhs god tiers via kashimo blitzing sukuna that reacted to lightning
5. Large mountain level high tiers and mhs low-god tiers (15 f sukuna)
 
1. Buraqis current crt
2. Applying LifeOfKings multipliers
3. City level high tiers via kenjaku black hole and mechamarus charges recalcs (maybe class p strength)
4. Mhs god tiers via kashimo blitzing sukuna that reacted to lightning
5. Large mountain level high tiers and mhs low-god tiers (15 f sukuna)
…. **** it, imma just pull out my last resort, the downscale chain scaling of doom, cause ain’t no way I can get the disaster curses up to ******* city level with any calcs or feats. Mostly cause they’re ******* dead and have no new scaling
 
I hope season 3 and modulo give consistency to large mountain scaling. Maybe dabura's aurora which needs to be clarified next chapter.
 
Also think about it El, low 7-c+ Jogo, that means low 7-c+ Hanami cause they have higher durability and thus low 7-c+ Yuji. This was perfect for my agenda scaling blog cause I was gonna argue tier gaps weren’t that high. But I also just realized Buraqi made a thread upgrading top tiers to high 7-c so the same issue is gonna be there… eh whatever class g upgrade and low 7-c+ for shibuya tiers

Also what were the plans for upgrades again for everyone if there were any?
Well… Low 7-C+ Black Flash Yuji.
 
In episode 7 of jjk Gojo chants and expands his domain while jogos attack is frozen. Anyone wanna calc that?
 
Also think about it El, low 7-c+ Jogo, that means low 7-c+ Hanami cause they have higher durability and thus low 7-c+ Yuji. This was perfect for my agenda scaling blog cause I was gonna argue tier gaps weren’t that high. But I also just realized Buraqi made a thread upgrading top tiers to high 7-c so the same issue is gonna be there… eh whatever class g upgrade and low 7-c+ for shibuya tiers

Also what were the plans for upgrades again for everyone if there were any?
Jogo's durability shouldn't be Low 7-C+
 
4. Mhs god tiers via kashimo blitzing sukuna that reacted to lightning
Bro didn’t blitz him tho. He definitely was slower than Kashimo but he was still reacting to and dodging his attacks, even if it was last second

Well… Low 7-C+ Black Flash Yuji.
It would be 7-c cause 2.5x and the low 7-c+ value was like barely under 4 kt

Jogo's durability shouldn't be Low 7-C+
Anything for upscale

In episode 7 of jjk Gojo chants and expands his domain while jogos attack is frozen. Anyone wanna calc that?
I could when I get off work
 
Quantify how weakened he was and we'll talk
Otherwise they're all still relative and Sukuna is holding back all the time for both, so yeah it is pure agenda to say that Kashimo is superior, Rika however automatically makes it a 2v1, with Rika being superior to Yuta
Can't really assert any relativity if you alr agree he was weakened
And no, when Yuta only came into the fight, Sukuna was NOT weakened yet
Yeah he was, nothing affirms that Sukuna healed between the Kashimo fight and when Yuta arrived (which btw had like 3-4 fights in-between)
and on the contrary was recovering his rct which means output was stabilizing too
Doesn't mean he got back to the state he was when he fought Kashimo. Sukuna is literally healing but wasnt healed
Ryu now doesnt have the highest output in CG? Which would be above Kashimo, Uraume etc.
The statement in CG is based on Kenjaku's own statement which specifically implies it's in reference to Granite Blast, not anything else and especially not his physicals. I am arguing about physicals and thus combat speed here. And also, Yuta doesn't even scale to it, so the highest output argument is irrelevant.
Or Yuta wasnt running a gauntlet? He didnt first kill Dhruv, then kill Kuro, then fight Uro and Ryu repeatedly, winning against both at the end?
Irrelevant, both Hakari/Base Kash upscales
Or Yuta wasnt holding back despite himself saying he was and not using his sword?
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This has got to be the biggest headcanon that has plagued Yutalibans for three years now. Yuta not fighting to kill Ryu/Uro or Yuta sparing both of their lives after their fight does NOT mean he was holding back, lethality =/= always AP. Or are you saying Mike Tyson is now holding back because he isn't fighting to kill in his matches? Yuta never says that he was holding back, all he said was "maybe" when Ryu said "without the rule, you'd kill us", which literally dies to semantics debates. Yuta saying "maybe" means literally anything without corroboration for your interpretation.
Show him "keeping up"
And you accuse me of not reading the manga... sheesh.
Agenda speaking yet again, both get overwhelmed if Sukuna tries more, and btw he was more excited for Yuta coming
Partially manifested Rika BY HERSELF can pressure 4 arms Sukuna
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Nerfed Sukuna, so irrelevant feat. Also this is pretty much off guard and Sukuna destroys her when she is domain amped btw
yeah, and? no contradiction here whatsoever, Yuji is the only one Sukuna specifically wanted dead the most, so he would go for the kill everytime
He literally says he is going to kill everyone and then play around with the merger, so this makes no sense here. Higuruma also says if Yuta was there instead of Yuji, then Higuruma woulda been one-shot AND Sukuna even thought Higuruma died to his attack so no, Sukuna isn't deliberately keeping anyone alive here. This is not a pre-awk Yuji upscale man.
Still no correlation to Kashimo btw
It's in correlation to Yuta, but yeah Kashimo did not get caught like that at ALL and had to be taken down by a BARRAGE of world cutting slashes. Yuji woulda died to a random ass cleave bruh
ah yea, kashimo gets a few seconds of standing still being beatdown by Rika and blasted by things like TiB
This presupposes Yuta is fast enough to keep up with Kashimo to do so, and also presupposes he would find the TiB sword and land the hit.
agenda speaking again, apparently Sukuna wasnt fast enough but kashimo will be???????? lmaooooooooo
Sukuna couldn't use domain at that point (it was the entire point of Yuta bum-rushing him to make sure he doesn't use domain at all), so this is a very faulty comparison. Also that Sukuna is still nerfed bub
 
Can't really assert any relativity if you alr agree he was weakened

Yeah he was, nothing affirms that Sukuna healed between the Kashimo fight and when Yuta arrived (which btw had like 3-4 fights in-between)

Doesn't mean he got back to the state he was when he fought Kashimo. Sukuna is literally healing but wasnt healed

The statement in CG is based on Kenjaku's own statement which specifically implies it's in reference to Granite Blast, not anything else and especially not his physicals. I am arguing about physicals and thus combat speed here. And also, Yuta doesn't even scale to it, so the highest output argument is irrelevant.

Irrelevant, both Hakari/Base Kash upscales

This has got to be the biggest headcanon that has plagued Yutalibans for three years now. Yuta not fighting to kill Ryu/Uro or Yuta sparing both of their lives after their fight does NOT mean he was holding back, lethality =/= always AP. Or are you saying Mike Tyson is now holding back because he isn't fighting to kill in his matches? Yuta never says that he was holding back, all he said was "maybe" when Ryu said "without the rule, you'd kill us", which literally dies to semantics debates. Yuta saying "maybe" means literally anything without corroboration for your interpretation.

And you accuse me of not reading the manga... sheesh.

Nerfed Sukuna, so irrelevant feat. Also this is pretty much off guard and Sukuna destroys her when she is domain amped btw

He literally says he is going to kill everyone and then play around with the merger, so this makes no sense here. Higuruma also says if Yuta was there instead of Yuji, then Higuruma woulda been one-shot AND Sukuna even thought Higuruma died to his attack so no, Sukuna isn't deliberately keeping anyone alive here. This is not a pre-awk Yuji upscale man.

It's in correlation to Yuta, but yeah Kashimo did not get caught like that at ALL and had to be taken down by a BARRAGE of world cutting slashes. Yuji woulda died to a random ass cleave bruh

This presupposes Yuta is fast enough to keep up with Kashimo to do so, and also presupposes he would find the TiB sword and land the hit.

Sukuna couldn't use domain at that point (it was the entire point of Yuta bum-rushing him to make sure he doesn't use domain at all), so this is a very faulty comparison. Also that Sukuna is still nerfed bub
bangerrrrrr
 
I’m not gonna lie, I think Yuta wins against Kashimo and even I don’t think getting into melee range would ever be the optimal strategy. Really his winning strat is just playing distance in his domain and waiting for JL to kill him since HWB is gonna wear out eventually (kind of like how he played distance against Sukuna)

Like I’ve said in other threads literally just comes down to starting distance and if you assume Yuta knows what Kashimo can do (which he probably would). If it’s a short enough distance that Kashimo can easily get into melee range before a domain he wins, if it’s farther I think Yuta has a decent chance at winning

Does mahito scale to any of the mechamaru year charges?
Did he ever tank them directly?
 
I thought you were the scaling guy
My ability to scale only goes up to goodwill, skips death painting, and then hidden inventory. Basically nothing anyone ever talks about in this thread

Might have eaten the first year charge
Bout to use that for my “at most 7-B” disaster curses with heavy downscaling
 
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