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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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LIFE_OF_LAZY
Isn't it like 1 vote away from getting accepted? Just do some manual labor for a bit dawg
Isn't it like 1 vote away from getting accepted? Just do some manual labor for a bit dawg
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play test my frog hammer climbing the abyss simulator and i migh do it
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What.
Arkenis
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A character doesn't need to explicitly say "yeah no matter how strong I make my attack it won't fatally wound"
Sukuna is just talking about doing fatal damage in the moment cuz right now his output's weakened.
Yuta says he's got nothing to fear because the slashes are weakening and they acknowledge they'd be cooked. I think you're misunderstanding this, Sukuna saying "not just because", doesn't mean his Gojo fight has nothing to do with it, he's saying in addition to that, their defense is really good as well. This means it's both that are the issue, and this would be Sukuna taking into account constant dropping in output since he brought it up prior.
Taking all this into account, cause it's ridiculous to act like the Ryu statement is in a vacuum, you're arguing that Sukuna with different debuffs, one's that specifically weaken his output, is still delivering the same dismantle he did to Ryu, to Yuji and Yuta and they are just tanking them, even though we know the guys's ce has been tenuous and he's been playing around with them.
Just to recap, Sukuna's ce is weak because he's uninterested in them, Sukuna's been playing around with them, his Gojo fight weakened his body overall, Yuji's dropping his output with every hit and Sukuna even says it's dropping quite a bit. You believe that no matter how strong the output is, Yuji and Yuta are gonna tank it?
This is the true depths of the Yuji and Yuta agenda.
Rodriiogo
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To answer it all in one
You are missing the part where this is a Weakened 20F TF Sukuna. Yes he is obviously way weaker than his 20F self but do you actually think hes like 5F level (Jogo level)? He is weaker than he should be yes but hes still above everyone there.
Sukuna despite saying they are less tough than Ryu was, still compares him to them and says that its the same scenario that it was against Ryu. That being that he can't deal fatal damage without physical contact. So Ryu is straight up confirmed to not take any fatal damage from 16F Sukuna's dismantles regardless of max output. And I think its very clear that, despite Ryu being more durable, even culling games Yuta was not that far below him physically. Yuta straight up repells a Granite blast with his bare hands during their fight. So despite Yuta < Ryu physically, Yuta would still scale to him in tiering.
With both those paragraphs in mind, I think its pretty clear that Sukuna used ryu because they were near him in durability despite being a bit less durable and thats why no dismantle would work on them. Sukuna is below 15F level by that point (I think you would agree) so he knows he wont deal any fatal damage BECAUSE just like Ryu, 15F Dismantles would not cut through them.
So yes, Gojo's fight is a factor, I dont deny this. The gojo fight made him go from his 20F level to below 15F (Hence why Yuta says that without the gojo fight they'd be fried. He'd be near 20F level lol). The point is that via the culling games, the narrative and sukuna himself, Yuta should be at the same tier physically as Ryu albeit a bit weaker. The same Ryu that while Sukuna was at 16F and 100% CE Output would not take fatal damage to any dismantle. Yuji would just chain scale because sukuna compares the two and treats them as simillar durability wise and he does as good of a job at taking dismantles as Yuta does.
I genuinely don't see the issue here.
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Arkenis
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I think he's at Yuta's level since he's got Yuta's level of ce or just above, with a heavily weakened output, making him below Ryu and unable to release his best output. Jogo probably loses to this Sukuna just due to SD and HWB.
Yeah you're taking the statement in a vacuum then. The context makes the statement implicative of a general scenario not the same exact scenario.
Yeah because he's in the worst condition ever not because he thinks Yuta and Yuji are tanking strong dismantles regularly.
Rodriiogo
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Hes at Yuta's level in reserves, not output or anything like that. Gojo is below yuta in reserves yet his output compared to yuta is ginormous. Even if yuta decided to love beam with rika he'd still lose to this sukuna in a clash, sukuna would prob be able to straight up tank or repell it physically even without using any attack lmfao.
Again. The general scenario being the same makes it around the same because of Yuta already being compared to Ryu physically regardless. Or are you denying that Ryu and Yuta are comparable physically? I dont get it lol
So he thinks Ryu is tanking strong dismantles regularly (true) but a yuta that was comparable to Ryu physically a month ago, got stronger and more efficient with his techniques etc etc would... not?
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Black Flash got accepted as a 2.5x multiplier but I disagree with the logic so I refuse to apply
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Link the crt rq ty fr
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Jujutsu Kaisen - Black Flash and Domains
As the title says, this thread is about JJK multipliers, more in specific, Black Flash and the Domain amp. We currently accept both as amps, but without any concrete number, but in this thread I will try to solve it NOTE: I don't plan to add ANYTHING stated here the moment that it gets accepted...
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I would say that now we could maybe upscale Gojo and Sukuna 2.5x above Kenjaku since he had no way to beat Gojo by any means and had to seal him but I forgot that this mf have never shown a single black flash onscreen
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They scale 2.5x above everyone so Kenjaku too logically. Are we adding the bf multiplier NOW or...? Because they won't change anything rn. Actually why am I talking, I can't edit for shit
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eehhh, yeah, we can apply it later. Maybe in abril of 2026.
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So everyone except Yuji (the goat) and Ryu downscale from the Uraume calc? Wuji boutta low diff Fraudta with this one
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Son, it's a 20% ap diff. That's less than the difference between an athletic person and a rookie
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Athletic person's low diff rookies fr
Anonymous_Learner
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Weakened TF Sukuna took multiple Black Flashes from Awakened Yuji so Sukuna/Gojo (AT LEAST) being 2.5x stronger than the soon to be H7C peeps seems logical to apply.
Anonymous_Learner
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come to think of it, (Awakened) Yuji blocked a Black flash from Sukuna, with Sukuna Black flashes being able to to greatly injure maki twice (even when Sukuna's less interested with said Black flashes, he can nearly kill larue and Choso even with blood armor), and didn't seem very bothered by it (If at all)...
Possible (At most) 2.5x Awakened Yuji Upscale?
Possible (At most) 2.5x Awakened Yuji Upscale?
Anonymous_Learner
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How Yuji Glazers (I'm one of them) will swear a 1.2x A.P., Dura, and (Combat and Reactions) Speed difference helps against Yuta and his 50 "borrowed" techniques
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come to think of it, (Awakened) Yuji blocked a Black flash from Sukuna, with Sukuna Black flashes being able to to greatly injure maki twice (even when Sukuna's less interested with said Black flashes, he can nearly kill larue and Choso even with blood armor), and didn't seem very bothered by it (If at all)...
Possible (At most) 2.5x Awakened Yuji Upscale?
Where tf did he block it?come to think of it, (Awakened) Yuji blocked a Black flash from Sukuna, with Sukuna Black flashes being able to to greatly injure maki twice (even when Sukuna's less interested with said Black flashes, he can nearly kill larue and Choso even with blood armor), and didn't seem very bothered by it (If at all)...
Possible (At most) 2.5x Awakened Yuji Upscale?
Tf you mean? "At most"
Based, fully agree. Scale him to max power Sukuna because he was about to climb to his level. Rela reactions Wuji when?
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That black flash is Sukuna's. Yuji just blocked it with his arm but didn't show any major reaction to it
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YES LETS GO, screw H7C, WE (Yes, WE) WANT 7B WUJI
Qurbonboev
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Can we upscale God tiers to baseline Small City? We would need to upscale them only by 5% from BF amped high tiers to do it( 382.57*2.5=956.425, little short of megaton milestone).
Anonymous_Learner
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I thought when he crossed his arms, that was him blocking it, but looking at it once over, it looks like either SUkuna was going for his elbow or Yuji intercepted sukuna's blackflash punch with a shoulder charge. Either way, not a bllock
I say at most because ia bit hesitant to give my goat that since he got cleaved in the face and was damaged (though, once can argue not as much as Yuta from a weaker Sukuna) but feel free to argue it
I agree that he was for sure getting stronger to the point that, as Sukuna puts it, he was climbing to his level. But, what does that really mean at that point? Sukuna's level at the time was a bit below Yuta's at most, missing limbs, stabbed by ssk, and a slow RCT. SO, sadly, no Rela for wuji.
though if your glazer mind wants to chew on something, by the time of the Yuji domain, Sukuna was seeming healed to the level where he was at when he fought MBA Kashimo and Domain amped Yuji (who chained many Black flashes) could hurt him and hit him.
Rodriiogo
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Sukuna's CE by the time Yuta shows up with Gojo's body is actually the same amount he had at the beginning of the fight since at the beginning he says his CE is at yuta's level and by the time Yuta shows up (w/Gojo's body) the narrator says his CE is still at yuta's level. Reserves arent really smth to go off so this isnt exact but Sukuna did indeed kept farming black flashes to regain CE to the point he barely lost any between those two moments
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Rela Wuji will probably happen in Modulo at least (Maybe even past FTL when there's dodging feats with Dabura's light)I thought when he crossed his arms, that was him blocking it, but looking at it once over, it looks like either SUkuna was going for his elbow or Yuji intercepted sukuna's blackflash punch with a shoulder charge. Either way, not a bllock
I say at most because ia bit hesitant to give my goat that since he got cleaved in the face and was damaged (though, once can argue not as much as Yuta from a weaker Sukuna) but feel free to argue it
I agree that he was for sure getting stronger to the point that, as Sukuna puts it, he was climbing to his level. But, what does that really mean at that point? Sukuna's level at the time was a bit below Yuta's at most, missing limbs, stabbed by ssk, and a slow RCT. SO, sadly, no Rela for wuji.
though if your glazer mind wants to chew on something, by the time of the Yuji domain, Sukuna was seeming healed to the level where he was at when he fought MBA Kashimo and Domain amped Yuji (who chained many Black flashes) could hurt him and hit him.
He also didn't get blitzed and deal zero hits unlike MBA Kashimo after Sukuna went true form
Anonymous_Learner
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I definitely see it being possible and that would be in the upscaling range (under 1.2x or 1.5x or something)
I mean, I guess. I mean more so his output generally wack so Sukuna saying yuji's growing up to his level during his black flash chain doesn't mean much
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We need a goal reasoning to upscale, not just because it's close to a checkpoint. The characters don't upscale at all, they just scale to 950 kilotons. My apologies for just saying "No" like some jackass
EldemadeDityjon
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That Sukuna was obviously stronger than Yuta but really don't have time to argue right now. If people still want to downplay Yuji below Yuta in physical sts. I'll tackle that point in any of the future thread. Idk where you people are getting that 4BF amped Sukuna was weaker than Yuta.
Qurbonboev
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If we scale Sukuna that fought Squad to 950 kt(since they need BF to actually deal some noticeable damage to him), full power Sukuna and Gojo would obviously upscale from 950 kt
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Alright guys, hear my yap out
What if, we scale Yuji to his eight black flash amps as a stack (Sukuna said it himself, Yuji was CLIMBING to his level, black flashes also make your output continuesly), then scale Sukuna to further 4 black flashes from himself
What if, we scale Yuji to his eight black flash amps as a stack (Sukuna said it himself, Yuji was CLIMBING to his level, black flashes also make your output continuesly), then scale Sukuna to further 4 black flashes from himself
Fair.
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Giannysmag
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Giannysmag
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Fr we all know EOS Yuji is Heiankuna lvl and top 1That top ten so ass
EldemadeDityjon
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Kashimo is Kenjaku victim
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