My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

[MochOath]

Shigaraki alone wins

Shigaraki looking at the verse:hold my joystick

the same shigaraki deku beat while holding back?

Prime AFO solos

gramps was getting blitzed by bakugo

 

[JoeDM021]

im convinced jjk and ds took so much attention in terms of learning inverse for those verses that mha inverse got neglected (cuz like im seeing mf's saying PAM can beat shigaraki after people been wanting to do mha inverse recently)

Deku while still holding back was giving this mf an extreme diff fight + wanting to save him but moments where he stops holding back he starts putting holes in shigaraki's chest without much effort

If this mf was bloodlusted he would literally do shigaraki like he did shiggyafo + the rest of the verse

Hypothetical FP Bloodlusted Deku wipes Combined MHAverse like low-mid diff at best if they let shiggy adapt a little but then he one shots shigaraki and then the rest of the verse is baked

Deku is the yoriichi of his verse ngl

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Deku is the yoriichi of his verse ngl

This doesn’t work. Muzan with prep time, access to every single twelve kizuki, and home advantage via Infinity Fortress lost to Yoriichi in like a 1 Vs 20

 

[JoeDM021]

Im also seeing that people are thinking Valdo from the fourth movie is PAM level??

No he isnt??

 

[JoeDM021]

This doesn’t work. Muzan with prep time, access to every single twelve kizuki, and home advantage via Infinity Fortress lost to Yoriichi in like a 1 Vs 20

yea it does work cuz Deku still beats them all cuz of the sheer stat gap izuku got on them its like plopping Goku in Naruto

 

[Mommyleona]

the same shigaraki deku beat while holding back?

You mean the Shigaraki Deku literally had to sacrifice his quirk for to just barely defeat? And Deku never held back. He literally had no way of defeating Shigaraki outside of soul hax.

 

[JoeDM021]

You mean the Shigaraki Deku literally had to sacrifice his quirk for to just barely defeat? And Deku never held back. He literally had no way of defeating Shigaraki outside of soul hax.

"Deku never held back" Acting like this mf didnt want to save tenko bro if he wasnt holding back he wouldve killed shigaraki before he could save tenko and we know this because for moments where deku holds back less he LITERALLY starts putting holes in shigaraki EFFORTLESSLY

And YK whats funny? Literally the moment shigaraki/tenko dies and AFO takes over

HE IMMEDIATELY GOES FOR THE KILL AND OBLITERATES BRO

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

You mean the Shigaraki Deku literally had to sacrifice his quirk for to just barely defeat? And Deku never held back. He literally had no way of defeating Shigaraki outside of soul hax.

Deku is capable of completely obliterating Shigaraki in a single shot, leaving nothing left remaining with Fa Jin literally at any moment. He just chose not to do that.

 

[Mommyleona]

Deku while still holding back was giving this mf an extreme diff fight + wanting to save him but moments where he stops holding back he starts putting holes in shigaraki's chest without much effort

"Extreme diff fight"
He had no way to beat shigaraki without ofa transfer

 

[JoeDM021]

"Extreme diff fight"
He had no way to beat shigaraki without ofa transfer

"He had no way to beat shigaraki without ofa transfer"

Like nana didnt say "YOU HAVE TO OBLITERATE HIM IZUKU" and Nana knowing shiggy the best out of everyone there and viewing the fight from Izuku literally means deku had a win con and Nana believed deku could do it despite seeing his literal crippled state and shigaraki's growing power yet still suggested it meaning even while literally crippled he could still obliterate shigaraki and win like he did shiggy afo

Im sorry a fully healthy, full power, bloodlusted izuku is wiping shigaraki low diff at worst

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Shigaraki literally confirms that he knows Deku can kill him if he really wanted to do so.

 

[Mommyleona]

Deku never held back" Acting like this mf didnt want to save tenko bro if he wasnt holding back he wouldve killed shigaraki before he could save tenko

He wouldn't. He can't. He wanted to save Tenko ≠ he can actually easily defeat Shigaraki

we know this because for moments where deku holds back less he LITERALLY starts putting holes in shigaraki EFFORTLESSLY

When was he "effortlessly putting holes" in Shigaraki?

HE IMMEDIATELY GOES FOR THE KILL AND OBLITERATES BRO

You mean the afo that was literally crumbling to dust on his own?

Deku is capable of completely obliterating Shigaraki in a single shot,

He isnt, not even remotely close

leaving nothing left remaining with Fa Jin literally at any moment. He just chose not to do that.

Prove that

 

[Mommyleona]

Shigaraki literally confirms that he knows Deku can kill him if he really wanted to do so.

No he doesn't ever do that lol.

 

[MochOath]

You mean the Shigaraki Deku literally had to sacrifice his quirk for to just barely defeat? And Deku never held back. He literally had no way of defeating Shigaraki outside of soul hax.

if Deku aimed for the head here, it would have been ggs

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

He isnt, not even remotely close
Prove that

How about you actually read his profile and not vibe scale

 

[JoeDM021]

if Deku aimed for the head here, it would have been ggs

the panels here @Mommyleona

 

[Mommyleona]

Like nana didnt say "YOU HAVE TO OBLITERATE HIM IZUKU"

You have to obliderate ≠ he can actually do that. She's saying he needs to do it, not that he can do it.

Nana knowing shiggy the best out of everyone there

Her knowledge on his capabilities is not better than anyone else's, and she again, does not that he can, but that he needs to.
On the other hand Kudou STRAIGHTFORWARDLY says that Deku stands absolutely no chance pitting strength vs strength against Shigaraki

 

[Raiden38]

the same shigaraki deku beat while holding back?



gramps was getting blitzed by bakugo

since deku has to face the whole verse he will have to try to keep everyone at bay shigaraki arrives with decay which could chain itself to all the people there among a lot of copies of twice etc. he will take Izuku and the latter doesn't seem to have any resistance so yes in the end shigaraki wins as soon as he manages to bring decay a little bit close to deku from there our hero could be in trouble in addition to the fact that shigaraki himself will act

 

[Mommyleona]

How about you actually read his profile and not vibe scale

I did, and it doesn't prove anything.

if Deku aimed for the head here, it would have been ggs

This is before Shigaraki absorbed AFO and got stronger

 

[JoeDM021]

You have to obliterate ≠ he can actually do that. She's saying he needs to do it, not that he can do it.
Her knowledge on his capabilities is not better than anyone else's, and she again, does not that he can, but that he needs to.
On the other hand Kudou STRAIGHTFORWARDLY says that Deku stands absolutely no chance pitting strength vs strength against Shigaraki

Dawg her and every other vestige have been spectating the fight through izuku + knowing shigaraki on a more personal level so they've seen what shiggy is capable of + nana seeing deku in his crippled state yet STILL suggests it for him to do?! She's not stupid or dumb combat wise either she's actually pretty intelligent.. And due to her LITERALLY being a part of OFA she would know if it still had enough power and yet she LITERALLY still suggests to obliterate shigaraki in order to win.. If izuku couldnt do it why suggest it in the first place? She would know if izuku couldnt because shes been viewing the fight the entire time, knows shigaraki better then most there, is a part of OFA so she can see if they have enough to win and suggests that izuku should just obliterate him meaning YES Deku does have the means to kill and obliterate shigaraki while being literally crippled so a fully healthy, bloodlusted, full power izuku wipes

Also Kudou knows less about shiggy then nana and even then at best for you that just evens it out but then it goes back to the "deku obliterates" side when you consider prior when deku stops holding back a bit he starts putting holes in the chest of shiggy

Also Keep in mind even while deku is literally crippled hes still keeping up and even winning extreme diff with an essentially prime shigaraki and we know izuku has gotten significantly weaker then his full power state at the start of the war arc for obvious reasons so even if a prime shiggy fought a prime deku.. prime deku would still wipe since hes only going rela with a crippled, heavily weaked, bleeding izuku

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I did, and it doesn't prove anything.
This is before Shigaraki absorbed AFO and got stronger

What the **** are you talking about? Shigaraki never absorbed AFO.

 

[JoeDM021]

This is before Shigaraki absorbed AFO and got stronger

What? Im sorry what are you talking about?

Shigaraki never absorbed AFO wtf?

Its when AFO "Died" not got absorbed

 

[Mommyleona]

Dawg her and every other vestige have been spectating the fight through izuku

Yeah. Exactly. And Kudou says Deku genuinely stands no chance against shigaraki. Why are we using Nana's encouragement as a definitive proof of anything and not actually outright statement of Shigaraki being far too powerful for Deku to beat with just strength

nana seeing deku in his crippled state yet STILL suggests it for him to do?!

Yeah, and? Because he needs to do that to kill Shigaraki, it doesn't mean he actually can.

She's not stupid or dumb combat wise either she's actually pretty intelligent

She's crying and yelling really emotional in that moment, she just wants shigaraki to be stopped

she LITERALLY still suggests to obliterate shigaraki in order to win.

None of that proves anything

 

[Mommyleona]

What the **** are you talking about? Shigaraki never absorbed AFO.

What? Im sorry what are you talking about?

Shigaraki never absorbed AFO wtf?

Its when AFO "Died" not got absorbed

 

[Robo432343]

Yeah gotta disagree with mommy here

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

What the **** are you talking about? Shigaraki never absorbed AFO.

Mfs on an indexing site trying to scale their favorite verses to the most in god dubious ratings yet scrutinize the most blatant ass scans and feats using misinformation for the sole purpose of agenda and vibes.

(Same type of energy as saying Phainon destroying 6 galaxies is not legitimate)

 

[MochOath]

since deku has to face the whole verse he will have to try to keep everyone at bay shigaraki arrives with decay which could chain itself to all the people there among a lot of copies of twice etc. he will take Izuku and the latter doesn't seem to have any resistance so yes in the end shigaraki wins as soon as he manages to bring decay a little bit close to deku from there our hero could be in trouble in addition to the fact that shigaraki himself will act

yeah i think Twice is one of the biggest players on the MHA side
100 Shigaraki clones who can all dust Deku is a problem

 

[Mommyleona]

feats using misinformation for the sole purpose of agenda and vibes

I really dont like you suggesting that im simply vibe scaling for some agenda

 

[Robo432343]

(Same type of energy as saying Phainon destroying 6 galaxies is not legitimate)

That’s actually very controversial
I can see both sides of the argument

 

[JoeDM021]

Yeah. Exactly. And Kudou says Deku genuinely stands no chance against shigaraki. Why are we using Nana's encouragement as a definitive proof of anything and not actually outright statement of Shigaraki being far too powerful for Deku to beat with just strength

Yeah, and? Because he needs to do that to kill Shigaraki, it doesn't mean he actually can.
She's crying and yelling really emotional in that moment, she just wants shigaraki to be stopped
None of that proves anything

Suggesting to izuku to obliterate his opponent is literally almost as direct as it can be if not as direct as kudou saying he doesnt have enough strength

Ok your repeating yourself now ive already gone over how it means he can so now your just repeating old arguments

Dawg if you had to kill your grand child that you were really attached to and felt bad about i would be sobbing too but that doesnt mean i would make inaccurate assumptions about the current power of the current user of OFA. She's just assessing that izuku needs to kill shigaraki now since its too late to save tenko in her eyes in which i can just repeat what i said before for my reasoning since all you said against it was essentially "nuh uh"

 

[JoeDM021]

dawg hes literally referring to the quirk not the actual person

 

[Mommyleona]

Suggesting to izuku to obliterate his opponent is literally almost as direct as it can be

No it's not direct at all, she's saying he has to kill Shigaraki as that's the only way to stop him, you're literally unable to actually answer how does this translate to him ACTUALLY being capable of that.

Ok your repeating yourself now ive already gone over how it means he can so now your just repeating old arguments

Because you didn't disprove what i said to begin with?

Dawg if you had to kill your grand child that you were really attached to and felt bad about i would be sobbing too but that doesnt mean i would make inaccurate assumptions about the current power of the current user of OFA

Yeah it does

just assessing that izuku needs to kill shigaraki now since its too late to save tenko in her eyes

Yeah. Exactly. That's all that means.

 

[Mommyleona]

dawg hes literally referring to the quirk not the actual person

Dawg when did i say the actual person?

 

[JoeDM021]

No it's not direct at all, she's saying he has to kill Shigaraki as that's the only way to stop him, you're literally unable to actually answer how does this translate to him ACTUALLY being capable of that.

Because you didn't disprove what i said to begin with?
Yeah it does
Yeah. Exactly. That's all that means.

Ok now i feel like your trolling cause your literally disregarding my entire first major argument of me literally explaining why it means he can

I literally did disprove you now your essentially saying "NUH UH NO YOU DIDNT!"

Rest of the stuff is yea

 

[Mommyleona]

Anyway im going to sleep y'all can yap about my hot take in the meantime

 

[JoeDM021]

oh yea they def trolling

Anyways GN imma sleep too

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

That’s actually very controversial
I can see both sides of the argument

Yall remember when the premise of the Fa Jin quirk is to store up kinetic energy for a powerful attack?

Yall also remember how Deku blow a giant massive hole into a WAY MORE DURABLE Shigaraki whose reactive evolution literally allowed him to gain A DEFENSIVE FORM beyond Prime All Might level durable.

 

[MochOath]

Mommyleona became Deku in this 1 vs everyone

 

[Robo432343]

Yall remember when the premise of the Fa Jin quirk is to store up kinetic energy for a powerful attack?

Yall also remember how Deku blow a giant massive hole into a WAY MORE DURABLE Shigaraki whose reactive evolution literally allowed him to gain A DEFENSIVE FORM beyond Prime All Might level durable.

im talking about phainon 6 galaxies thing

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

im talking about phainon 6 galaxies thing

Oh 6 galaxies lol. It was 6 real galaxies because the fight was in Path Space: Even though we don’t scale anyone to Multi galaxy level via that feat anymore. Phainon himself got buffed to Low Outerversal